How to check electrical grid?

[PawelK198604]

I have built everything I need, a water supply system, sewage system, there is still no, but there is a problem with the connection to electricity, but I built a power connection to abroad, and I also set up a high-voltage transmission network, but I do not know why the electricity does not reach the substation, I do not know what I screw up again , I tried so hard, but there is no electricity for the water pumps, even though I have built all the necessary infrastructure, is there any way to check if the high voltage line is physically connected where it should be?

Here it's my gamplay video it;s should by last 10 mintutes of recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n64qEMvoWA

[ling.speed]

I think there is a brake in high voltage line near the customs... I usually just go with the camera close to the wires, and in places with visual clutter you can use "cancel wires tool" to see if stuff is connected. It should hilight 3 towers red - the one you are hovering over and two on each side if its connected. If its not it will hilight only 2.

There is also a very useful tool in overlays on the last tab where you can have voltage and power shown on screen at all times, and the power lines will turn green/red depending on the value too, but thats more for later issues than simple brake in the lines.

[MG83]

Oh its you again :D

[Silent_Shadow]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

There is also a very useful tool in overlays on the last tab where you can have voltage and power shown on screen at all times

You can only have wattage or voltage displayed at a time, not both.

OP you should turn on the voltage overlay and let the game run (no pausing). Look for portions of your grid that are not highlighted; these are the unpowered and thus, unconnected portions of your grid (see below for example). Follow the connections to the sources of power until you run into green highlighted electrical buildings (transformers, switches, etc.). Between the green highlighted and non-highlighted buildings, you will find the disconnect.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883853882
Note how the 1.5 MW power line is uncolored. That is what you are initially looking for, because uncolored lines either do not connect to something or are unpowered.

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

Originally posted by ling.speed:

There is also a very useful tool in overlays on the last tab where you can have voltage and power shown on screen at all times

You can only have wattage or voltage displayed at a time, not both.

Semantics :P


Problem is, if there is no power the overlays dont show anything. His grid will be all white, and never show green in the first place, which makes the tool kind of moot.

Now we are veterans, and its obvoius, but remembering how we played the first time, it was a pain to understand whats wrong. And that usually was just a misclick while building the power line. Because there is no feedback.

Pesonally i'd like to have the yellow triangle icon for "connection" shown on end points of power lines. That would ease this up a lot.

[MrKrabs]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

You can only have wattage or voltage displayed at a time, not both.

Pesonally i'd like to have the yellow triangle icon for "connection" shown on end points of power lines. That would ease this up a lot.

Now THAT's a very good idea.

[PawelK198604]

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

Originally posted by ling.speed:

There is also a very useful tool in overlays on the last tab where you can have voltage and power shown on screen at all times

You can only have wattage or voltage displayed at a time, not both.

OP you should turn on the voltage overlay and let the game run (no pausing). Look for portions of your grid that are not highlighted; these are the unpowered and thus, unconnected portions of your grid (see below for example). Follow the connections to the sources of power until you run into green highlighted electrical buildings (transformers, switches, etc.). Between the green highlighted and non-highlighted buildings, you will find the disconnect.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883853882
Note how the 1.5 MW power line is uncolored. That is what you are initially looking for, because uncolored lines either do not connect to something or are unpowered.

The water pump state it's not connected to power grid despite i even bulit Coal Power plant and created all subsations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZpPjfma2U

[ling.speed]

Masz przerwany obwód. Najprawdopodobniej tam gdzie są dwa słupy średniego napięcia tuż obok siebie. Ciężko powiedzeć gdzie, powiedzmy na przeciąciu 2ch dróg od skrzynek elektrycznych przy pompie. Skasuj te dwa słupy i zbuduj od nowa.

For the future, when building lines make sure to hover the cursor for a moment to confirm a correct snap (thigs will turn slightly yellow).

[Silent_Shadow]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Problem is, if there is no power the overlays dont show anything. His grid will be all white, and never show green in the first place, which makes the tool kind of moot.

Not true.

If you have the voltage overlay on and start from any working power source (which should be pretty easy to verify with the voltage overlay on), the overlay will only color power lines green if they are connected both to a powered grid and to anything else (another switch/transformer, or a substation or factory, etc.); if it isn't green, then even if it's connected to the power source or a powered grid, that power line isn't connected at both ends, or your game is paused.

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Problem is, if there is no power the overlays dont show anything. His grid will be all white, and never show green in the first place, which makes the tool kind of moot.

Not true.

If you have the voltage overlay on and start from any working power source (which should be pretty easy to verify with the voltage overlay on), the overlay will only color power lines green if they are connected both to a powered grid and to anything else (another switch/transformer, or a substation or factory, etc.); if it isn't green, then even if it's connected to the power source or a powered grid, that power line isn't connected at both ends, or your game is paused.

Not true. :)

This time semantics are on my side. I'm saying "his video" where the overlay will not, in fact, color anything. So saying "check colors" when the poor guy cant see any is not exactly helpful. Thou ofc not that i disagree, but we are troubleshooting here, not making a guide.

[Silent_Shadow]

Wrong again.

His video doesn't show the voltage overlay coloring anything because the voltage overlay clearly isn't on. There should be voltage icons over every building regardless of whether it has power or not.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2884078223
Are you here to help OP, or to prove a point?

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

Wrong again.

His video doesn't show the voltage overlay coloring anything because the voltage overlay clearly isn't on.

Are you here to help OP, or to prove a point?

Cmon i'd thought you'd take the hint with ":)" and "ofc not that i disagree" parts. But seems its dense matter we are dealing here.

His video doesn't show overlay, but if you are a veteran, you'd know how it looks like, considering i mentioned in the first post where the problem is. And a blank overlay for a newbie is not goona help much. Point i was trying to prove was that you were correcting me out of context. Context being his video.

But this is pretty useless argument, so you are totally correct sir! I'm sorry to have offended your exemplary game knowlege.

[Silent_Shadow]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Cmon i'd thought you'd take the hint with ":)" and "ofc not that i disagree" parts. But seems its dense matter we are dealing here.

His video doesn't show overlay, but if you are a veteran, you'd know how it looks like, considering i mentioned in the first post where the problem is. And a blank overlay for a newbie is not goona help much. Point i was trying to prove was that you were correcting me out of context. Context being his video.

But this is pretty useless argument, so you are totally correct sir! I'm sorry to have offended your exemplary game knowlege.

Thanks dude, my life now has validation, and man this gas lighting sure is atmospheric.

So you're telling me that you recommended the "overlay tool:"

Originally posted by ling.speed:

There is also a very useful tool in overlays on the last tab where you can have voltage and power shown on screen at all times, and the power lines will turn green/red depending on the value too, but thats more for later issues than simple brake in the lines.

But then get dismissive about it when I corrected you on it twice and explained how to use it for OP's problem:

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

You can only have wattage or voltage displayed at a time, not both.

Semantics :P

Problem is, if there is no power the overlays dont show anything. His grid will be all white, and never show green in the first place, which makes the tool kind of moot.

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

Not true.

Explanation for using voltage overlay.

Not true. :)

This time semantics are on my side. I'm saying "his video" where the overlay will not, in fact, color anything. So saying "check colors" when the poor guy cant see any is not exactly helpful.

So... why not just tell OP how to enable the voltage overlay? Why dismiss it out of hand because OP didn't know about it? I can't help but feel that you got embarrassed and had to try to get one over me or something.

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Now we are veterans, and its obvoius, but remembering how we played the first time, it was a pain to understand whats wrong. And that usually was just a misclick while building the power line. Because there is no feedback.

Originally posted by ling.speed:

His video doesn't show overlay, but if you are a veteran, you'd know how it looks like, considering i mentioned in the first post where the problem is.

So again, why don't we "veterans" share our knowledge and explain a very simple, yet very useful tool to OP, since it is clearly superior to checking over the entire length of every power line for disconnects in his republic?

[MG83]

i can diagnose your save if you like.

Upload it to wetransfer and send me link. I ll check and find the issue/s.

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Silent_Shadow:

But then get dismissive about it when I corrected you

What did you correct me on? That we cant see both voltage and power at the same time, while the whole point of overlay for a newbie is that he can see them in the first place. Is that really worth all the words here?

So... why not just tell OP how to enable the voltage overlay?

Because we already saw its a simple brake in line with his first connection, the one time where overlay is not useful at all.

Its like using wrench to undo a screw, its absolutely right tool for the job, but in this particular case what he needs is WD40 not a guide to 10mm sockets.

Also we are both gaslighting each other as proper internet argument etiquette requres...

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Semantics :P
Not true. :)
ofc not that i disagree

I do however think that i've indicated that these are a lighthearted or even sarcastic remarks, and that i do agree with you, before it went sour.

In the end its a nothingburger here, and we just have different ways of teaching. Im trying to look more from Pawels pov, to not fixate him on possibly confusing GUI and give direct troubleshooting tools like the "remove tool" or "mouse hover" to check the lines. Which he will have to use anyways, overlay or not. While you are making sure everyting is by the book. Which is great (not sarcastic). But to quote MG83 "Oh its you again :D" I feel our subject is not exactly great book learner.

Anyways, i dont want any gaslighting, im just dissapointed at the way this conversation went (from both sides), cheers.

[MG83]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Anyways, i dont want any gaslighting, im just dissapointed at the way this conversation went (from both sides), cheers.

Thats why i no longer engage in conversations with him/her/it :>