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BabaRoga Sep 14, 2019 @ 4:41pm
Factories won't accept coal, definite bug! Tested and reproduced (edit: bug was in my brain)
Conveyor belts won't redistribute coal to brick factory and cement factory.
Dumper trucks won't unload coal to brick factory or cement factory directly.

Cement factory accepts conveyor belt feed from gravel aggregate storage just fine.

Both factories work fine if I purchase coal.

New game started yesterday, never had this problem before. Tried rebuilding conveyor belts, and transfer engines, and all sort of other things. Just won't work. I can't try anything else as I ran out of money.

Anyone had a similar problem?
Bug? I think there was an update a day or 2 ago

Frustrating as I was going for construction self-sufficiency lol
Last edited by BabaRoga; Sep 15, 2019 @ 6:58am
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Originally posted by t.dautov:
Don't mean to sound condescending, but you do know that the coal ore from the mine needs to go through a coal processing plant before being usable as coal in industries, right?
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fjorkar Sep 14, 2019 @ 5:17pm 
Try it:
Coal warehouse + carrier + conveyor + power plant
Carbon Storage + Carrier + Conveyor + Brickyard
and so on
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BabaRoga Sep 14, 2019 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by fjorkar:
Try it:
Coal warehouse + carrier + conveyor + power plant
Carbon Storage + Carrier + Conveyor + Brickyard
and so on

Like I said: Never had this problem before, done the set up many times.

Gravel conveyor is feeding Cement factory just fine. it's the same conveyor feed design set up like on coal storage to the factory.
And conveyor feeds storage just fine from the mine to the storage.

There is power and both factories work just fine if I purchase coal.
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BabaRoga Sep 14, 2019 @ 7:43pm 
Ok, so:

Started new game to see if problem will get recreated.

Tried feeding factories coal by conveyor belt from storage - no
Direct dumper truck from storage to factory - no
Dumper truck to truck unloading conveyor belt feed - no

So factories just won't accept coal any way. (wait to unload truck will just stay on the factory or unloading station indefinitely)

Factories accept gravel in all of the above feed systems just fine.
Truck loading conveyor loads dumper trucks just fine.

Factories work just fine by purchasing coal.

So it's definitively a bug from the last update or something.
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t.dautov Sep 14, 2019 @ 10:57pm 
Don't mean to sound condescending, but you do know that the coal ore from the mine needs to go through a coal processing plant before being usable as coal in industries, right?
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B4RR3TTS M1GHTY V01C3 Sep 15, 2019 @ 12:34am 
What about power?
Maybe the power plant ran out of coal, so the conveyors have no energy?
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IntergalacticHouseOfPancakes™ Sep 15, 2019 @ 3:27am 
tested this out. did you remember to put the conveyor engine towers between the buildings its going into? i had a similar problem and it seems the conveyor towers are now required to get them to operate now.
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BabaRoga Sep 15, 2019 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by t.dautov:
Don't mean to sound condescending, but you do know that the coal ore from the mine needs to go through a coal processing plant before being usable as coal in industries, right?

I've built the coal supply chain many times, never had a problem before.
Spent 3 hrs trying to work out what the issue is.
Started a new game and tried every possible way of delivery, no luck!

The only thing I didn't do is remember that I didn't built coal processing plant.
FML I was so focused on electricity, conveyor belts, etc hahaha

I cannot believe I did not realize that!

Thanks
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sergetechone Sep 15, 2019 @ 7:02am 
@BabaRoga ... The Power Plant, Brick factory and Cement factory need coal, not ore... if that is the mistake.

I try this : trucks load at the building directly ... work just fine.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1864003722

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1864001709

And btw, you may get this situation, when all loading/unloading bay are occupy by output trucks and the input trucks can not get in. If the factory is running out of incoming materials, the output trucks will be "park" there until the factory got some input goods.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1864000962

To correct this potential issue, you need separated load station beside the factory to receive output goods.

Here the cement:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1864074374

The coal is being load up, but it the gravel is the issue here, the gravel is being loaded all right, the cement plant need so much gravel, when all unloading bay are occupy and a line up of trucks is outside the plant waiting to be unloaded. In my example, only 1 coal truck is needed, and I got at least 12 gravel trucks.
Last edited by sergetechone; Sep 15, 2019 @ 8:14am
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TheAmishStig Sep 15, 2019 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by BabaRoga:
Originally posted by t.dautov:
Don't mean to sound condescending, but you do know that the coal ore from the mine needs to go through a coal processing plant before being usable as coal in industries, right?

I've built the coal supply chain many times, never had a problem before.
Spent 3 hrs trying to work out what the issue is.
Started a new game and tried every possible way of delivery, no luck!

The only thing I didn't do is remember that I didn't built coal processing plant.
FML I was so focused on electricity, conveyor belts, etc hahaha

I cannot believe I did not realize that!

Thanks

LMAO, I shouldn't be laughing but it immediately made me think of when Colonel Failure did the exact same thing. He mixed up Coal and Coal Ore on an auto-buy and it took him a whole episode to realize he'd plugged up his entire supply chain.

I was gonna say something, but thought "Nah, Baba's been around the discussion board for a while now, they know better. I don't want to be that jerk who insults their intelligence"...
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BabaRoga Sep 15, 2019 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by TheAmishStig:
Originally posted by BabaRoga:

I've built the coal supply chain many times, never had a problem before.
Spent 3 hrs trying to work out what the issue is.
Started a new game and tried every possible way of delivery, no luck!

The only thing I didn't do is remember that I didn't built coal processing plant.
FML I was so focused on electricity, conveyor belts, etc hahaha

I cannot believe I did not realize that!

Thanks

LMAO, I shouldn't be laughing but it immediately made me think of when Colonel Failure did the exact same thing. He mixed up Coal and Coal Ore on an auto-buy and it took him a whole episode to realize he'd plugged up his entire supply chain.

I was gonna say something, but thought "Nah, Baba's been around the discussion board for a while now, they know better. I don't want to be that jerk who insults their intelligence"...


Hahaha, laugh away!
I couldn't stop laughing for ages at the amount of time I wasted when the problem should have been obvious to me. It's not like I haven't built the working thing many times before.

I wanted to build ore storage and then swing back and make processing plant walking distance to mine bus station. But I had a break and forgot my original plan.

Rebuilt conveyor and engines number of times, rebuilt brick factory. Even brought the power directly from border and built 6 substations just to make sure I have sufficient power. Until I run out of money.
The worst thing is I started new test game and was so focused on testing different feed methods from storage to factory that I didn't build the processing plant again.

Well, the programmers will be laughing at the test game save and effort I spent to build different types of delivery that doesn't work because it's not processed coal......

I sent bug report but I had sneaky suspicion that it's something stupid that I've done hahaha
That's why I asked on forum.


Thanks for the help everyone!
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sergetechone Sep 15, 2019 @ 8:32pm 
@BabaRoga ... If I understand correctly, you where trying to build a setup with a Power Plant, Processing Plant, Brick Factory and a Mine by using 1 bus stop and all building within walking distance of the bus stop ?

Well ... here my setup :

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1863643021

Also include a truck loading bay.

The setup work just fine, as long it is being feed with employees on the regular basis. Meaning ... lots of buses.
Last edited by sergetechone; Sep 15, 2019 @ 8:34pm
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BabaRoga Sep 16, 2019 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by sergetechone:
@BabaRoga ... If I understand correctly, you where trying to build a setup with a Power Plant, Processing Plant, Brick Factory and a Mine by using 1 bus stop and all building within walking distance of the bus stop ?

Well ... here my setup :

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1863643021

Also include a truck loading bay.

The setup work just fine, as long it is being feed with employees on the regular basis. Meaning ... lots of buses.

Yes, the set up was not the problem, I've done the working set up many times.
I forgot to build coal processing plant and didn't realize it after hours of trying to figure out the issue of factories not accepting coal (which wasn't coal as I forgot to build ore processing plant).

So the problem was just an unrealized mistake.
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