new B laser use case?

[Bomjus]

i think this weapon is new with the solaris DLC. i'm not 100% sure since there's no icon next to it like the other DLC weapons.

anyway, i'm looking at this weapons damage/s heat/s cooldown etc. and i just don't see when this is a good pick for a laser mech? the alpha damage is incredible, i get it, but NINE tons?? i might try 2-3 of them combined on the hero black knight or something for ridiculous alpha damage?

maybe the problem here is that i'm playing YAML, so every laser "slot" on a mech can hold any size laser. so i can put like 5 large laser short bursts on a black knight. where as in vanilla, i'm more limited so if i want some real punch that's the niche these B lasers fill?

anyway, for the YAML users out there, are you bothering fielding these B lasers? if so, in what composition?

[Bomjus]

https://imgur.com/a/8tRGSUz here's a screencap of T3 large laser, B laser, and large laser short burst. just to help the discussion.

[spartanspud]

I only remember them mentioning the PPC X. I haven't played Vanilla for a while. But I think a blaser might have been in vanilla. It was definitely in YAML collection if not.

Anyway, the idea is that you can use one of them in place of 2 LL. It has some pros and cons that way.

[Bomjus]

spartanspud の投稿を引用：

I only remember them mentioning the PPC X. I haven't played Vanilla for a while. But I think a blaser might have been in vanilla. It was definitely in YAML collection if not.

Anyway, the idea is that you can use one of them in place of 2 LL. It has some pros and cons that way.

just to clarify, my friend and I are not using a collection of YAML mods. we are *just* using the main YAML mod. so while i'm not 100% confident where these weapons originate from because there's no DLC icon, i am confident that they are, presently, vanilla weapons.

[pRaX]

It's pretty simple.
2x L Laser = 10 tons and less damage.
1x Binary Laser = 9 tons and more damage.

So everytime you plan on running 2x L Laser, you might think about rather taking 1x Binary Laser instead.
Running 4x L Laser? Maybe use 2x Binary Laser instead.

And yes, Solaris DLC impemented Binary Lasers while YAML had them for ages.
I haven't seen the Solaris Binary Laser stats so I only worked with the YAML stats because I expect them to be more or less the same.

[Nishi Kinuyo]

Because the Binary Laser is one of the few weapons that can headcap 'Mechs in TT. :P
Especially up until the War of '39 and the Clan Invasion.
Also, the introduction year is incorrect in that screenshot, its 2812.

One of the other main benefits is the slight weight reduction.
But they were never meant to be a direct upgrade from the standard LL.

[Burusagi]

I think it might be the only Laser that sees some benefit from the Short Burn Cantina upgrade..?

[spartanspud]

The short burn by itself makes minimal difference for most lasers. But your DPS increases notable with burn time, cool down etc. when taken together.
Especially on a mech with a good number of upgrade slots.
The benefit is a bit more pronounced for the BL though.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Bomjus の投稿を引用：

new B laser use case??

The answer for vanilla is very simple: weapon slots.

Short of that they are supposed to be slightly better than two larges, like previously mentioned.

[Acierocolotl]

I think binary lasers and Marauder II are a match made in heaven. IT's got relatively few large energy slots, but so much capacity for heatsinks it is funny. Now you can fire those all day long.

[JayPAC]

"So big, so impractical, I'm surprised it's not on every second Lyran 'Mech" - Battletech Battlemech Manual, Page 100.

It's two large lasers welded together. If your 'Mech has the tonnage and can handle the heat, it's a good big hit weapon, it's a less heat and tonnage efficient PPC but then, I.S. PPCs aren't really efficient in any of those two fields.

[Norcaine]

dont play YAML( dont like that bs mod) but i like the B-laser. with the right cantina traits they do a ton of dmg. i used them a lot even before dlc 6 with the YAW mod. sure u need to be carefull with the weight of those but with heavy or assault these are a good combi.

[George W. Kush]

JayPAC の投稿を引用：

"So big, so impractical, I'm surprised it's not on every second Lyran 'Mech" - Battletech Battlemech Manual, Page 100.

It's two large lasers welded together. If your 'Mech has the tonnage and can handle the heat, it's a good big hit weapon, it's a less heat and tonnage efficient PPC but then, I.S. PPCs aren't really efficient in any of those two fields.

LOLOLOL amusing since a ppc generates about 7~ heat per shot and the B laser is around 17-20~. ppcs you can also fire faster by about 5~ rpm or so