How Does the Mod List Prioritize?

[MycroftCanadaNS]

Does the one above overwrite the one below or does the mod below overwrite the one above?

[Manhunt0r]

this is a pig game, so Obviously it works by activation order.

[lordpooky]

they load in order 1,2,3 and 2 overrides 1, 3 overrides 1 and 2 and so on

[Hykril Tynyx]

Originally posted by Manhunt0r:

this is a pig game...

What !?

[MycroftCanadaNS]

Originally posted by lordpooky:

they load in order 1,2,3 and 2 overrides 1, 3 overrides 1 and 2 and so on

Got ya, and thanks.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Originally posted by Hykril Tynyx:

Originally posted by Manhunt0r:

this is a pig game...

What !?

It is a play on word. The devs are named PGI, and he said PIG instead.

Edit: As for the OP subject, this is why you get a third party mod organiser. And those organisers, being third party and thus following no standard, have their own way of doing things. Sometimes you sort them from top to bottom, sometimes it is the complete opposite...

[MycroftCanadaNS]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

Originally posted by Hykril Tynyx:

What :lunar2019deadpanpig:!?

It is a play on word. The devs are named PGI, and he said PIG instead.

Edit: As for the OP subject, this is why you get a third party mod organiser. And those organisers, being third party and thus following no standard, have their own way of doing things. Sometimes you sort them from top to bottom, sometimes it is the complete opposite...

That is why I had to ask, and you're right I do use a mod manager but the manager is from bottom to top, and in the game it's top to bottom. It seems no one can get on the same page.

Which mod organizer would you recommend?

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Originally posted by MycroftCanadaNS:

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

It is a play on word. The devs are named PGI, and he said PIG instead.

Edit: As for the OP subject, this is why you get a third party mod organiser. And those organisers, being third party and thus following no standard, have their own way of doing things. Sometimes you sort them from top to bottom, sometimes it is the complete opposite...

That is why I had to ask, and you're right I do use a mod manager but the manager is from bottom to top, and in the game it's top to bottom. It seems no one can get on the same page.

Which mod organizer would you recommend?

I pesonally use MW5 Mod Manager. But the one thing is, if you use a mod manager then don't even open up the mod listing in game. The mod manager job is to do that for you and the game. If you play with both then of course you're going to have some big problems ahead of you as both programs fight for ascendancy on the same target.

[MycroftCanadaNS]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

Originally posted by MycroftCanadaNS:

That is why I had to ask, and you're right I do use a mod manager but the manager is from bottom to top, and in the game it's top to bottom. It seems no one can get on the same page.

Which mod organizer would you recommend?

I pesonally use MW5 Mod Manager. But the one thing is, if you use a mod manager then don't even open up the mod listing in game. The mod manager job is to do that for you and the game. If you play with both then of course you're going to have some big problems ahead of you as both programs fight for ascendancy on the same target.

Thank You, I appreciate it. I'll give that program a go.

[phfor]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

Originally posted by MycroftCanadaNS:

That is why I had to ask, and you're right I do use a mod manager but the manager is from bottom to top, and in the game it's top to bottom. It seems no one can get on the same page.

Which mod organizer would you recommend?

I pesonally use MW5 Mod Manager. But the one thing is, if you use a mod manager then don't even open up the mod listing in game. The mod manager job is to do that for you and the game. If you play with both then of course you're going to have some big problems ahead of you as both programs fight for ascendancy on the same target.

This is blatantly wrong information. Totally fine to use the ingame mod menu as well as an external mod manager. The ingame menu doesn't touch a thing with load orders, just whether they're enabled or disabled. It will however list the mods in load ordering, Highest to Lowest. As well as give slightly more detailed info on the so called "conflicts" (that frequently aren't issues, but by design)

[phfor]

To give slightly more in depth information on what's already been provided as well - mods load in at the Load Order number lowest to highest (0,1,2,3... etc) as stated. However when there's multiple mods with the same defined LO number, it will then load those one in order alphabetically by folder name, lowest to highest (numbers being lower than letters).

[Eagle_of_Fire]

You don't have to bother with any of what you just said if you use a mod manager. That's the whole point of using a mod manager. You use the program to fix your load order and usually it also allow you to enable or disable any mod you want at the same time from the mod manager. Why even use one if it can't help you do exactly just that? It is the whole point.

If you use the ingame menu you're just asking for trouble. At best it will screw up with what you just midified. At worst it could even crash the game and muck a quantity of things up. It certainly happened regularly to me on some games.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

You don't have to bother with any of what you just said if you use a mod manager. That's the whole point of using a mod manager. You use the program to fix your load order and usually it also allow you to enable or disable any mod you want at the same time from the mod manager. Why even use one if it can't help you do exactly just that? It is the whole point.

If you use the ingame menu you're just asking for trouble. At best it will screw up with what you just midified. At worst it could even crash the game and muck a quantity of things up. It certainly happened regularly to me on some games.

Mods don't work unless you enable them in the game mod menu...
And yes i'm using a mod manager.

[Princess_Daystar]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

You don't have to bother with any of what you just said if you use a mod manager. That's the whole point of using a mod manager. You use the program to fix your load order and usually it also allow you to enable or disable any mod you want at the same time from the mod manager. Why even use one if it can't help you do exactly just that? It is the whole point.

If you use the ingame menu you're just asking for trouble. At best it will screw up with what you just midified. At worst it could even crash the game and muck a quantity of things up. It certainly happened regularly to me on some games.

As someone who makes mods for mechwarrior 5, ive never used a mod manager for MW5 and have never had issues with using the ingame mod menu - this over 1500 hours of in game time.

Everything you said about the ingame menu comes down to installing incompatible mods, and not reading install instructions.

Phfor and the other devs in the YAML server troubleshoot so many modlists a day due to people using mod managers and mucking about with the order of loading mods it isnt funny.

[phfor]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

You don't have to bother with any of what you just said if you use a mod manager. That's the whole point of using a mod manager. You use the program to fix your load order and usually it also allow you to enable or disable any mod you want at the same time from the mod manager. Why even use one if it can't help you do exactly just that? It is the whole point.

If you use the ingame menu you're just asking for trouble. At best it will screw up with what you just midified. At worst it could even crash the game and muck a quantity of things up. It certainly happened regularly to me on some games.

Quit digging the hole you're making. You're talking about stuff you don't properly understand.

Using the in game mod menu is totally fine. It will not mess up stuff you've done with an external mod manager. It *can't*. It only touches the modlist.json (which is a list of what is and isn't enabled). Mod load ordering is determined in other files.

And I've got a coop mod list of 34 mods that runs fine, and it doesn't use a mod manager. Admittedly, I did do the one tweak it needed with a text editor. But enabled everything by the in game menu.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Originally posted by phfor:

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

You don't have to bother with any of what you just said if you use a mod manager. That's the whole point of using a mod manager. You use the program to fix your load order and usually it also allow you to enable or disable any mod you want at the same time from the mod manager. Why even use one if it can't help you do exactly just that? It is the whole point.

If you use the ingame menu you're just asking for trouble. At best it will screw up with what you just midified. At worst it could even crash the game and muck a quantity of things up. It certainly happened regularly to me on some games.

Quit digging the hole you're making. You're talking about stuff you don't properly understand.

Using the in game mod menu is totally fine. It will not mess up stuff you've done with an external mod manager. It *can't*. It only touches the modlist.json (which is a list of what is and isn't enabled). Mod load ordering is determined in other files.

And I've got a coop mod list of 34 mods that runs fine, and it doesn't use a mod manager. Admittedly, I did do the one tweak it needed with a text editor. But enabled everything by the in game menu.

You really should take your own advice, considering I'm not willing to engage further with you on this matter since you're so far out of reality.