GOBLIN is a real BUGGED P-O-S AI

[Tantrumus]

I dont know what it is but across about 4 careers for a 60 pilot he is like the worst one ever. No matter what mission you do his mech falls apart. Finally had enough and dismissed his worthless @#$ ... seems like the lesser pilots do way better.

[Cyroy]

Phoenix Hawk is a frail mech to begin with and when you first receive Goblin his stats aren't maxed out. So it requires some work to train him up. Besides that all AI pilots are the same, it's just the skill points and your commands that matter.

[cszolee79]

Better pilot - more dps - more ai aggro - more damage received.

[Valen]

Your AI is as good as you are willing to command them...

While it is true that some pilots are better than others... Or some mechs are better than other.... The most important factor is whether you are willing to take charge of your lance and command them. To many people expect the AI to read the commanders mind, as well as, Act like a experienced real person.

I have no issues with any pilots or mechs (I prefer customize mechs - but I can use stock - if I am forced into that choice). Why? Because I am willing to command my lance in battle.

Numerous times have I had to use pilots I did not want (Do to injured pilots) or mechs I did not want (Do you length or repair time) - Had to purchase stock mechs and use them.

The point is - Command your lance mates and you will be surprised on what you can achieve.

[Balm]

Originally posted by Cyroy:

Phoenix Hawk is a frail mech to begin with and when you first receive Goblin his stats aren't maxed out. So it requires some work to train him up. Besides that all AI pilots are the same, it's just the skill points and your commands that matter.

idk man I had this one pilot named 'Santiago' and no matter what mech she is in she ALWAYS manages to get herself messed up, despite having the same stats as my other pilots.

I eventually just dismissed her because I was tired of it. There has to be some sort of hidden variable in their behavior, it was too egregious.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Balm:

Originally posted by Cyroy:

Phoenix Hawk is a frail mech to begin with and when you first receive Goblin his stats aren't maxed out. So it requires some work to train him up. Besides that all AI pilots are the same, it's just the skill points and your commands that matter.

idk man I had this one pilot named 'Santiago' and no matter what mech she is in she ALWAYS manages to get herself messed up, despite having the same stats as my other pilots.

I eventually just dismissed her because I was tired of it. There has to be some sort of hidden variable in their behavior, it was too egregious.

As others have noted, your pilots are only as good as your orders are, plus something else worth noting that the A.I will try to use ALL of the weapons equipped on any given mech including weapons with rather pitiful range like small lasers, because of this quirk when these weapons becomes next in line to be used the A.I will not cycle to the next available weapon until the mech's within range for the small lasers to fire practically allowing free damage to be dealt without any fear of retaliation.

[Insano-Man]

Originally posted by cszolee79:

Better pilot - more dps - more ai aggro - more damage received.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one, and my experience supports this response.

[Tantrumus]

People always assume you dont know how to play when posting a complaint in a game. i sure hope over 4 careers to endgame I learned all the hoykeys to manage lancemates. i havent had a single issue since dumping Goblin lol on far lesser skilled pilots. It was just an observation, why is this 60 always always almost dead when weve rolled over everything? This guy is maxed out 60 means 10/10/10 in all the dmg reduction/pilot skills ans yet always was punching out of the best mechs lol.

[Cryptic]

then you havent met cheng because she costs me so much money it hurts.

[pete]

Originally posted by TanTriggermus:

I dont know what it is but across about 4 careers for a 60 pilot he is like the worst one ever. No matter what mission you do his mech falls apart. Finally had enough and dismissed his worthless @#$ ... seems like the lesser pilots do way better.

Sounds like confirmation bias to me. Don't use Goblin?

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by TanTriggermus:

i havent had a single issue since dumping Goblin lol on far lesser skilled pilots. It was just an observation, why is this 60 always always almost dead when weve rolled over everything? This guy is maxed out 60 means 10/10/10 in all the dmg reduction/pilot skills ans yet always was punching out of the best mechs lol.

Less-skilled AI pilots will mean that you'll need to do more of the work, and I would expect that your ratio of damage done to damage taken will almost certainly be a lot better than an AI pilot's ratio unless you're intentionally holding back so that AI pilots can get earn more XP.
Also, if you mix AI pilots of different skills, higher-skill ones might be better at tanking fire but they might draw a lot more of it from aggro depending on enemy AI.

FWIW, in case you weren't aware of it -- it's not just the numerical skills but pilot tier that matters ( see https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834500688 ).


If you use TTRulez AI, that significantly changes enemy behavior and target selection. Ditto for the enemies in "duel" missions from Coyote's mod; they have custom AI.

[Balm]

I'm usually actively commanding my lance to go places or focus targets, it was just my observation that one of the pilots no matter what mech they were in, tended to get herself in trouble without fail. Once I dumped her my lance went back to performing how I expected, with only the occasional bugged movement (deciding to go get stuck and falling behind) or suicidal diving.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Balm:

I'm usually actively commanding my lance to go places or focus targets, it was just my observation that one of the pilots no matter what mech they were in, tended to get herself in trouble without fail. Once I dumped her my lance went back to performing how I expected, with only the occasional bugged movement (deciding to go get stuck and falling behind) or suicidal diving.

I see someone only paid attention to only a quarter of my comment covering orders and nothing about the weapons.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Originally posted by Tantrumus:

I dont know what it is but across about 4 careers for a 60 pilot he is like the worst one ever. No matter what mission you do his mech falls apart. Finally had enough and dismissed his worthless @#$ ... seems like the lesser pilots do way better.

Originally posted by Tantrumus:

People always assume you dont know how to play when posting a complaint in a game. i sure hope over 4 careers to endgame I learned all the hoykeys to manage lancemates. i havent had a single issue since dumping Goblin lol on far lesser skilled pilots. It was just an observation, why is this 60 always always almost dead when weve rolled over everything? This guy is maxed out 60 means 10/10/10 in all the dmg reduction/pilot skills ans yet always was punching out of the best mechs lol.

It doesn't matter in the least what you learned or not. You gave a Phoenix Hawk to an AI pilot, end of story. Phoenix Hawks have almost all their weapons in their arms and if you have that much trouble with the hero mech Goblin appear in then you would have doubly more so if you actually used a normal one with even less total armor in the arms.

The hero mech he come with should be piloted only by you. That's actually one of the best mech in the whole game and I use it almost exclusively for the totality of the early game. With good positioning and good torso twist to preserve the arms you can almost solo whole missions. Three things no AI whatsoever is ever going to be able to do for you.

The actual answer as to why this happen to you has already been given to you: the hero mech has more DPS than any of your other mechs on the battlefield so it get targeted more often. Goblin is an elite pilot who attract even more fire. The enemy AI is even more focussed on aiming for the weapons of a mech which deal the most DPS than previous patches, so his arms get shot at a lot... And then you get the result you described. There is no need to look further than this.

[Tantrumus]

^^^^^

Please scroll up and look for a single reference of me stating/referring to the Pheonix Hawk mech. I believe this was other responses after my OP.

I was making a funny observation in my OP

Steam level 46 enjoy your no life troll.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Then there is only a simple conclusion: you have no clue how to use your AI teamates and you have no clue how to build mechs. To think I had even given you the benefit of the doubt in my previous post...

Edit: and just to make sure you don't answer back with an obtuse point of view, let me precise that I've always used Goblin to the best of his abilities and he has never shown any kind of characteristics different from any other elite pilot. Others pointed this out as well in this thread. So it is definitely a "you" problem.