MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

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algame Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:13pm
Ballistic Mechs
Why so few Mechs that are focused on ballistic? I got the Jager early on and it was pure joy with four AC, except it is like a cardboard box when enemy shoot at you, so you either hide behind your AI buddies all mission or heaven forbid you let AI run it, they will be vaporised in 30 seconds.

I have found nothing else that can mount more than one AC or maybe has a few small slots. Really disappointing as I like this style.
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Cursed Hawkins Feb 17, 2023 @ 9:45pm 
Probably because mechs that are only given one single weapon system type are usually going to be having a VERY SPECIFIC role to play, such as your Jagermech being what's basically a walking flak tank!
Plothos Feb 17, 2023 @ 10:07pm 
They’re out there, but ballistics tend to be heavy, so for anything large and multiple you’re looking at assaults, mainly. You can do four lbx/ac5 on annihilators and the crab carapace. The hero cyclops, nightstar, and corsair I slap twin gauss on and they wreck.
algame Feb 17, 2023 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by Plothos:
They’re out there, but ballistics tend to be heavy, so for anything large and multiple you’re looking at assaults, mainly. You can do four lbx/ac5 on annihilators and the crab carapace. The hero cyclops, nightstar, and corsair I slap twin gauss on and they wreck.

I thought that may be the case, a shame as I do not like assaults, I think heavy is the sweet spot for MW gameplay.
olstar18 Feb 17, 2023 @ 10:27pm 
Originally posted by algame:
Originally posted by Plothos:
They’re out there, but ballistics tend to be heavy, so for anything large and multiple you’re looking at assaults, mainly. You can do four lbx/ac5 on annihilators and the crab carapace. The hero cyclops, nightstar, and corsair I slap twin gauss on and they wreck.

I thought that may be the case, a shame as I do not like assaults, I think heavy is the sweet spot for MW gameplay.
It really should be the mediums since they are the work horses of mech combat. Kinda hard to get that to work in a game like this without making heavy and assault mechs rare outside of the major fights. But as for your case let me guess its the low speed that gets to you. I tend to favor the assaults myself but that is more because of my inability to rely on the ai to drive the mechs correctly. I can setup a medium mech that will just tear straight through an assault but give that mech to the ai and they will have trouble doing significant damage to a hover tank.
.ZombonerX13 Feb 17, 2023 @ 10:56pm 
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE ANNIHILATORS!!!! 4 medium ballistics slots ISN'T WORTH IT.
olstar18 Feb 17, 2023 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by .ZombonerX13:
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE ANNIHILATORS!!!! 4 medium ballistics slots ISN'T WORTH IT.
It is if you play the original godzilla theme in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6qAIaqK3_Q&ab_channel=EvanGross
algame Feb 17, 2023 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by olstar18:
Originally posted by algame:

I thought that may be the case, a shame as I do not like assaults, I think heavy is the sweet spot for MW gameplay.
It really should be the mediums since they are the work horses of mech combat. Kinda hard to get that to work in a game like this without making heavy and assault mechs rare outside of the major fights. But as for your case let me guess its the low speed that gets to you. I tend to favor the assaults myself but that is more because of my inability to rely on the ai to drive the mechs correctly. I can setup a medium mech that will just tear straight through an assault but give that mech to the ai and they will have trouble doing significant damage to a hover tank.

Yes I agree, and I would probably say medium to heavy is where I had the most fun, around 50 to 60ish tons seems to create the most interesting choices and gameplay.

Of course AI is the downfall of the game, when the only Mech you can build for your lance-mates is 400+ armor and the most basic weapons, it pretty much kills a lot of the strategy and complexity.
Azrelus Feb 18, 2023 @ 6:06am 
Originally posted by .ZombonerX13:
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE ANNIHILATORS!!!! 4 medium ballistics slots ISN'T WORTH IT.

Bruh, I gave 4 UAC/5 to my Annihilator and it destroys everything.
George W. Kush Feb 18, 2023 @ 6:55am 
4 RAC/5 or RAC/2 rips on the anni
Incunabulum Feb 18, 2023 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by algame:
Why so few Mechs that are focused on ballistic? I got the Jager early on and it was pure joy with four AC, except it is like a cardboard box when enemy shoot at you, so you either hide behind your AI buddies all mission or heaven forbid you let AI run it, they will be vaporised in 30 seconds.

I have found nothing else that can mount more than one AC or maybe has a few small slots. Really disappointing as I like this style.

Because guns are heavy compared to lasers and so you end up with not much armor.
Bovril Brigadier Feb 18, 2023 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by algame:
Why so few Mechs that are focused on ballistic? I got the Jager early on and it was pure joy with four AC, except it is like a cardboard box when enemy shoot at you, so you either hide behind your AI buddies all mission or heaven forbid you let AI run it, they will be vaporised in 30 seconds.

I have found nothing else that can mount more than one AC or maybe has a few small slots. Really disappointing as I like this style.
From what I am gathering you're looking for things that are Heavy and above that can mount multiple large Autocannons, to which the answer is that PGI never made models for the one that do or they haven't been invented yet in the game timeline.
Plothos Feb 18, 2023 @ 8:33am 
The king crab car is just a better option for 4xUAC5 in my humble.
There are some good/great AC and ballistic focused mechs out there. There’s a fast crab that can rock two AC5s at 50 tons. The victor basilisk at 80 can take two lbx10. The hero hunchback GI is even great with a gauss. The hero wolverine smashes; just one AC, but it’s where most of my damage comes from on that guy. There are loads. You can even get SIX light rifles on a 45 ton blackjack.

But canons are big. If you insist on multiple large canons you simply have to go heavy.
Valen Feb 18, 2023 @ 8:40am 
Since CASE does not exist in mw5 - all ballistic mechs/ or mostly ballistic mechs have the added joy of being a walking bomb.... Just waiting for the ammo to get hit.

Ammo Explosion Detected... :2spooky:
Bovril Brigadier Feb 18, 2023 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by Valen:
Since CASE does not exist in mw5 - all ballistic mechs/ or mostly ballistic mechs have the added joy of being a walking bomb.... Just waiting for the ammo to get hit.

Ammo Explosion Detected... :2spooky:
Actually C.A.S.E. does exist, it's just inbuilt as standard.
Valen Feb 18, 2023 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Strayed:
Originally posted by Valen:
Since CASE does not exist in mw5 - all ballistic mechs/ or mostly ballistic mechs have the added joy of being a walking bomb.... Just waiting for the ammo to get hit.

Ammo Explosion Detected... :2spooky:
Actually C.A.S.E. does exist, it's just inbuilt as standard.

Stop making me look stupid :nwquest:
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