MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

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Oxygenus Jan 31, 2023 @ 10:00am
Cappelans, lore and hate
As far as i can see they are hated in community. But what is shown in DLC is that FS invaides them and commits several war crimes (btw some very similar to irl war crimes commited by ru in Ukraine). I understand game is not covering all the BT lore, so can someone please explain what is going on regarding Liao?
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pRaX Jan 31, 2023 @ 10:07am 
Nice try, Capellan.
Valen Jan 31, 2023 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Oxygenus:
As far as i can see they are hated in community. But what is shown in DLC is that FS invaides them and commits several war crimes (btw some very similar to irl war crimes commited by ru in Ukraine). I understand game is not covering all the BT lore, so can someone please explain what is going on regarding Liao?


Invades? You mean special operation to secure House Davion and the Federated Suns. :nwquest:
Battre le fer pendant qu’il est chaud :nwquest:

The Capellan Maskirovka has repeatedly... Without Cause; tried to assassinate members of house Davion, as well as, repeatedly endangering the Federated Suns.

Vive Davion :davion:

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MQ-SC9bmp4

It's ridiculous to let the Capellans sit there and catch their breath. They're vulnerable, and we should be all over them like a bad smell.
-Field Marshal Peter Davion II, 2928

Last edited by Valen; Jan 31, 2023 @ 11:01am
Nemoh Jan 31, 2023 @ 10:54am 
MW5 does a very poor job explaining the causes of the 4th Succession War. Essentially, every successor state wants to plant their ruler as head of the reformed Star League. The primary way the Capellans did this was by sponsoring terrorist actions and assassinations against the other states.

One of their plots revolved around putting a replacement of Prince Hanse Davion on the throne of the Federated Suns, and this one came very close to actually working. The Davions never forgave them, and after seeing what the Capellans did to the man used as the replacement (mentally broke him and recreated his personality), they concluded House Liao was too great a threat to the Federated Suns, their own people, and the general status quo to remain in a position of power.

Their public moral justification was that House Liao was operating an oppressive police state (mostly true) and they were bringing freedom to the Capellan people (dubious - none of the successor states are true democracies).
Last edited by Nemoh; Jan 31, 2023 @ 10:57am
Zero Jan 31, 2023 @ 12:30pm 
The capellan confederation is based on China that should explain most of it
Pintor Austríaco Jan 31, 2023 @ 1:59pm 
Quasi-feudal states battering for dominance. Thats explains all of it. And the setting and narative was created in 80'. So its a cold war era fiction..
owen8964 Jan 31, 2023 @ 2:09pm 
Aside from all that there's also the fact that they are the most convenient target in THIS game at any rate. You don't really lose out on anything by making them your primary target, certainly when playing a Campaign and especially if you have the Kestrel Lancers dlc.
Solon Jan 31, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
Its all fluff. Reminiscent of IRL.
Wayz Jan 31, 2023 @ 7:00pm 
They don't have any high level conflict zones or industrial zones and as such they are by default in mw5 a faction to go kicking for a paycheck. They should have been closer to Terra if wanted to be otherwise. Tis their own fault really.
Commisar Jon Fuklaw Jan 31, 2023 @ 7:28pm 
The only good Capellan is a dead Capellan, so let's make some good Capellans!!!
Oxygenus Feb 1, 2023 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Valen:
Originally posted by Oxygenus:
As far as i can see they are hated in community. But what is shown in DLC is that FS invaides them and commits several war crimes (btw some very similar to irl war crimes commited by ru in Ukraine). I understand game is not covering all the BT lore, so can someone please explain what is going on regarding Liao?


Invades? You mean special operation to secure House Davion and the Federated Suns. :nwquest:
Battre le fer pendant qu’il est chaud :nwquest:

The Capellan Maskirovka has repeatedly... Without Cause; tried to assassinate members of house Davion, as well as, repeatedly endangering the Federated Suns.

Vive Davion :davion:

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MQ-SC9bmp4

It's ridiculous to let the Capellans sit there and catch their breath. They're vulnerable, and we should be all over them like a bad smell.
-Field Marshal Peter Davion II, 2928
Where you were for 8 years when those cappelan nazis bombed Tikonov?)0)
Oxygenus Feb 1, 2023 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by Zero:
The capellan confederation is based on China that should explain most of it
I mean space soviet union is asking for some orbital nuclear bombardment cleaning but lol
Last edited by Oxygenus; Feb 1, 2023 @ 6:31am
Oxygenus Feb 1, 2023 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Pintor Austríaco:
So its a cold war era fiction..
There is litteraly a dude who started a war IRL because he likes some cold era conspiracy theories so yeah, i guess it is still kinda viable
Oxygenus Feb 1, 2023 @ 6:52am 
Originally posted by Strayed:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/784080/discussions/0/3200369112092230690/#c3200369112092237512
So a state like that really has no war crimes done or something? Sure curita has more resourses to have some fun but cappelans are honestly seem to be not that small compared to independant states
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Date Posted: Jan 31, 2023 @ 10:00am
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