MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries

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H3avy Sep 12, 2021 @ 11:05am
Do i even affect status of the house Territories?
I was wondering since davion and steiner merged, the year is 3042 and seem to be eating everything up (which also kinda sucks since they were the two houses I had max standing in and the new merged house didnt carry the rep over). Does anything I do matter in terms of territory or is it just the normal timeline or random?
Last edited by H3avy; Sep 12, 2021 @ 12:08pm
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pRaX Sep 12, 2021 @ 12:10pm 
No. Sadly.
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Nobody Sep 12, 2021 @ 10:19pm 
"Does one small group of soldiers have any impact on faction borders"?

Why WOULD you?
In all seriousness, the only time any mercs had any impact on faction borders that I can think of....
Was at one point when the head of house Kurita had a personal grudge against the Wolf's Dragoons (one of the biggest AND strongest merc companies in the lore.... far more than any game has let us play) and so they managed to defend that border.

And then only because the head of that faction outright refused to let his commanders to anything BUT attack the Dragoons (and even then the Dragoons came out mangled)
owen8964 Sep 13, 2021 @ 12:01am 
‘Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries’

These, in the day when heaven was falling,
The hour when earth’s foundations fled,
Followed their mercenary calling
And took their wages and are dead.

Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
They stood, and earth’s foundations stay;
What God abandoned, these defended,
And saved the sum of things for pay.

A.E.Housman
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remocon23 Sep 13, 2021 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by H3avy:
I was wondering since davion and steiner merged, the year is 3042 and seem to be eating everything up (which also kinda sucks since they were the two houses I had max standing in and the new merged house didnt carry the rep over). Does anything I do matter in terms of territory or is it just the normal timeline or random?

i also thought the same thing, the map changes because i allied with davion and suddenly the map is 50% yellow :squirtheh:

but it is not. the map changes is fixed based on the timeline. can be seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmetFijaeOQ

apparently there is a story to it (on some year steiner & davion got together and form an alliance). too bad the rep does not carry over :(

btw even after alliance, some mission still have steiner/davion on it. need to search for it though
Spaceman Sep 13, 2021 @ 3:54am 
You have to remember that in the Battletech Universe, you are not a big player. You are a small-time independent merc company just trying to get by. The timeline is based on that established by the tabletop game on which all video games are based on. Even in the TT game, you are just a mechwarrior, and play no part in influencing anything. You're just doing the dirty jobs that no one else wants to or can do. There is a great song on youtube that does a fantastic job epitomising exactly who you are in the universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KB8f3Oprms

Bonus track for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnpPJSHox6w
Archduke Charles Sep 14, 2021 @ 11:02am 
Really regretting maxing out my reputation with House Liao at this point. :steamfacepalm:
Nobody Sep 14, 2021 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Archduke Charles:
Really regretting maxing out my reputation with House Liao at this point. :steamfacepalm:
House Liao gets some cool mechs.... but don't really shine as a faction until the Dark Ages part of the timeline (well outside this game's scope)
Bovril Brigadier Sep 14, 2021 @ 12:58pm 
Anyone who sides with Liao gets the shoe!
remocon23 Sep 15, 2021 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Nobody:
Originally posted by Archduke Charles:
Really regretting maxing out my reputation with House Liao at this point. :steamfacepalm:
House Liao gets some cool mechs.... but don't really shine as a faction until the Dark Ages part of the timeline (well outside this game's scope)

if mech X is written "common" on House Liao, shouldn't i fight against House Liao to get that mech X (through salvage)?
Nobody Sep 15, 2021 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by remocon23:
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if mech X is written "common" on House Liao, shouldn't i fight against House Liao to get that mech X (through salvage)?
Unless you want to try buying it from their stores instead.
6 to one option. Half a dozen to the other, IMO

I've had better luck finding Ravens in their stores than on the field, but plenty of others report otherwise.
Cursed Hawkins Sep 15, 2021 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by remocon23:
Originally posted by Nobody:
House Liao gets some cool mechs.... but don't really shine as a faction until the Dark Ages part of the timeline (well outside this game's scope)

if mech X is written "common" on House Liao, shouldn't i fight against House Liao to get that mech X (through salvage)?
Even if that's the case in theory its not always gonna be what happens when put into practice, as I've had contracts against the Pirate faction and their suburbanite factions and would see Heavy and Assault class mechs even though these mechs literally would never be listed as among those factions.
Maahes Sep 15, 2021 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Spaceman:
You have to remember that in the Battletech Universe, you are not a big player. You are a small-time independent merc company just trying to get by. The timeline is based on that established by the tabletop game on which all video games are based on. Even in the TT game, you are just a mechwarrior, and play no part in influencing anything. You're just doing the dirty jobs that no one else wants to or can do. There is a great song on youtube that does a fantastic job epitomising exactly who you are in the universe.
It's true you are a bit player in the universe, I agree. I can think of ways that your little merc company could actually affect the map though.

Imagine being hired by one of the Great Houses to go and take over a periphery world on the fringes of their border, because they want something from it (such as valuable minerals).

Or perhaps you get a distress call from a similar world being overrun by pirates, and the Great House agrees to pay for and send some mercs to deal with the scoundrels IF that world then "comes into the fold," as it were.

Or some fringe world wants independence and you get hired to drive off the garrison forces stationed there (the planetary people are a rebellious lot to begin with) so they can declare their freedom.

In any of these scenarios, you could have a bunch of linked missions on said world, and in the end, the map would change. A blob would extend to encompass it, or the border would be pushed back a bit. Not in the middle of the map, not along the borders shared by Houses, but out on the Periphery.

Mini-story mission groups and actually seeing an effect, minor though it might be, would be cool. You could point and say, "I did that."

Would require actual effort from PIG though, so... never going to happen.
Last edited by Maahes; Sep 15, 2021 @ 5:12pm
Dewrill Sep 15, 2021 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Nobody:
"Does one small group of soldiers have any impact on faction borders"?

Why WOULD you?


Because if i obliterate the opposition on one System over and over and over and over again, i'd expect the faction i work for to expand into that area. its not about Lore reasons of a Mercband, its about realism.
Nobody Sep 15, 2021 @ 7:49pm 
Originally posted by Dewrill:
its not about Lore reasons of a Mercband, its about realism.
No offense?
But the "lore reasons" SET the "realism" for that setting.

Edit:
If you cannot accept that?
Or if you can, but choose not to?
Guess what!
The people who made the game gave you the power to change it.
Mod it yourself, or ask someone to do it for you.

Doesn't change the fact that, for any particular setting?
The "lore reason" IS the "realism"
And so your statement is outright stupid.

Again.
No offense.
Unless you choose to be, of course.

Edited Edit:
Spelling
Last edited by Nobody; Sep 15, 2021 @ 7:52pm
Cursed Hawkins Sep 15, 2021 @ 8:04pm 
Originally posted by Nobody:
Originally posted by Dewrill:
its not about Lore reasons of a Mercband, its about realism.
No offense?
But the "lore reasons" SET the "realism" for that setting.
Plus EVEN if one mercenary band did do all of that as they are going on about, EVERY SINGLE HOUSE would be hiring mercenary bands to do their fighting for them there's literally nothing that would be gained when nothing but mercenaries are doing the majority of the fighting for the houses.
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