best rune is

[DOOM SLAYER]

???

[maksim1quan]

Air control

[ggeymer]

longer stun ofc

[DOOM SLAYER]

rune combine choice?

[Afangun]

air control

[Afangun]

Originally posted by DOOM SLAYER:

rune combine choice?

do you mean which 3 runes are better to choose?

[DOOM SLAYER]

Originally posted by Afangun:

Originally posted by DOOM SLAYER:

rune combine choice?

do you mean which 3 runes are better to choose?

yes

[Afangun]

Originally posted by DOOM SLAYER:

Originally posted by Afangun:

do you mean which 3 runes are better to choose?

yes

air control; top 1 rune you should always take it first
dazed and confused; also a very good rune because glory kills in this game are more important than in doom 2016 so having this rune makes sense
blood fueled; also a good rune that will speed you up for a short time after a glory kill (for some reason this rune even works after a chainsaw kill)
savagery; also not a bad choice especially if you don't want to watch long animations of glory kills
equipment fiend; can also be a good choice if you can quickly kill the demons when they are frozen then it will even speed up the recharge of your cryo grenade

[Afangun]

Personally I use
air control, dazed & confused and blood fueled (a year ago, instead of blood fueled, I used equipment fiend)

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I literally cannot stand playing without air control so... air control

[Hundinger]

Air control is so important that I use a mod to activate it. That way I have space for three more runes, which at the moment are: Seek and Destroy, Blood fueled and Punch and Reave.

Seek and Destroy and blood fueled, because I love glory kills. Getting in and out quickly makes a glory kill based playstyle feel very fast. Savagery would make this feeling complete, but at the moment I prefer punch and reave. Blood punch makes more blood punch? Yes, please. Equipment fiend is an excellent rune too and I used to have it equipped, but right now I'm happy with this combo

[Grampire]

Air Control

: removes the filter from Exultia. Makes jumping easier. For OG Quake players, the "training wheels" of Doom. #1 rune, because of this I only have 2 rune slots.

Other amazing runes:

Savagery: top tier rune - makes glory killing more rewarding and allows you to convert gk's after meathook to 20 armor more consistently making it more than a QoL issue. (Wish it worked with chainsaw).

Blood Fueled: IMO another essential rune that makes glory kills more rewarding and encourages you to chain them to maintain uptime. Makes traversal during combat better/safer and makes you harder to hit.

Honorable Mentions

Punch and Reave: Blood Punch forever and forget your guns exist. If I had a 4th slot, this would be locked in it.

Seek and Destroy: very strong for initiating iframes if you have an "Oh ♥♥♥♥" moment.

Equipment mastery: higher frag/ice/flame belch throughput is never bad.

Runes I think are bad:

Dazed and Confused: weaker rune that can "store" GKs a bit longer but if you're having trouble triggering GK's on demand there are better ways to get there than this.

Chrono Shift: seems cool but screws up certain weapons when using alt fire modes like destroyer blade, stickies and Lock on Burst.

Saving Throw: OK for UN, particularly on Gladiator and Samur fights where you can score a stupid death for a small error. Otherwise exceptionally useless, espcially in normal modes and even 1up mode (just restart the level).

[Afangun]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Air Control

: removes the filter from Exultia. Makes jumping easier. For OG Quake players, the "training wheels" of Doom. #1 rune, because of this I only have 2 rune slots.

Other amazing runes:

Savagery: top tier rune - makes glory killing more rewarding and allows you to convert gk's after meathook to 20 armor more consistently making it more than a QoL issue. (Wish it worked with chainsaw).

Blood Fueled: IMO another essential rune that makes glory kills more rewarding and encourages you to chain them to maintain uptime. Makes traversal during combat better/safer and makes you harder to hit.

Honorable Mentions

Punch and Reave: Blood Punch forever and forget your guns exist. If I had a 4th slot, this would be locked in it.

Seek and Destroy: very strong for initiating iframes if you have an "Oh ♥♥♥♥" moment.

Equipment mastery: higher frag/ice/flame belch throughput is never bad.

Runes I think are bad:

Dazed and Confused: weaker rune that can "store" GKs a bit longer but if you're having trouble triggering GK's on demand there are better ways to get there than this.

Chrono Shift: seems cool but screws up certain weapons when using alt fire modes like destroyer blade, stickies and Lock on Burst.

Saving Throw: OK for UN, particularly on Gladiator and Samur fights where you can score a stupid death for a small error. Otherwise exceptionally useless, espcially in normal modes and even 1up mode (just restart the level).

Dazed and Confused and Savagery I think that these are almost two identical runes
Dazed and Confused is not a bad rune especially when several demons are stunned at the same time. Also, you can not kill the stunned demon right away but leave it for later to restore health or blood punch

[Afangun]

what do you think are the best runes for doom 2016?
for me air control and equipment mastery
as for the third one, I don't even know what a good choice would be
a rune with infinite ammo, I don't see the point in it because there are no problems with ammo in this game
a rune that gives more ammo and also a chance to get bfg ammo, I also don't see the point in it because as I said earlier, there are no problems with ammo in this game and I prefer not to use bfg (I only use this in a situation where I have a very high chance of dying with low hp)

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Afangun:

Dazed and Confused and Savagery I think that these are almost two identical runes
Dazed and Confused is not a bad rune especially when several demons are stunned at the same time. Also, you can not kill the stunned demon right away but leave it for later to restore health or blood punch

Sorry but they are definitely not identical runes.

Savagery is simply a top-tier rune in Eternal. There are more scenarios where the burn from your meathook gets converted on glory kill due to savagery because the animation ends before the flame goes out. Dazed and Confused doesn't provide this.

Dazed and Confused provides CC and sets up glory kills but it's honestly not going to provide the restack utility savagery does.

Originally posted by Afangun:

what do you think are the best runes for doom 2016?
for me air control and equipment mastery
as for the third one, I don't even know what a good choice would be
a rune with infinite ammo, I don't see the point in it because there are no problems with ammo in this game
a rune that gives more ammo and also a chance to get bfg ammo, I also don't see the point in it because as I said earlier, there are no problems with ammo in this game and I prefer not to use bfg (I only use this in a situation where I have a very high chance of dying with low hp)

2016 has insanely powerful runes that broke the game balance. The runes you mentioned were completely broken.

Make no mistake - Rich Get Richer is the most powerful rune in the game when fully leveled up because it simply breaks the game. As much ammo as is available in 2016, you will still run out if you fire the most powerful weapons nonstop like Gauss Siege. This rune enables you to fire that gun almost exclusively with no ammo issues, and it's basically BFG light.

Combo it with Armored Offensive and the game just breaks. This rune is less important if you're a careful player but it enables you to get Rich Get Richer back online easier if you make a mistake. Armored Offensive basically became the flame belch in Eternal, which is a much better implementation of Armor restacking IMO.

[Afangun]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Originally posted by Afangun:

Dazed and Confused and Savagery I think that these are almost two identical runes
Dazed and Confused is not a bad rune especially when several demons are stunned at the same time. Also, you can not kill the stunned demon right away but leave it for later to restore health or blood punch

Sorry but they are definitely not identical runes.

Savagery is simply a top-tier rune in Eternal. There are more scenarios where the burn from your meathook gets converted on glory kill due to savagery because the animation ends before the flame goes out. Dazed and Confused doesn't provide this.

Dazed and Confused provides CC and sets up glory kills but it's honestly not going to provide the restack utility savagery does.

Originally posted by Afangun:

what do you think are the best runes for doom 2016?
for me air control and equipment mastery
as for the third one, I don't even know what a good choice would be
a rune with infinite ammo, I don't see the point in it because there are no problems with ammo in this game
a rune that gives more ammo and also a chance to get bfg ammo, I also don't see the point in it because as I said earlier, there are no problems with ammo in this game and I prefer not to use bfg (I only use this in a situation where I have a very high chance of dying with low hp)

2016 has insanely powerful runes that broke the game balance. The runes you mentioned were completely broken.

Make no mistake - Rich Get Richer is the most powerful rune in the game when fully leveled up because it simply breaks the game. As much ammo as is available in 2016, you will still run out if you fire the most powerful weapons nonstop like Gauss Siege. This rune enables you to fire that gun almost exclusively with no ammo issues, and it's basically BFG light.

Combo it with Armored Offensive and the game just breaks. This rune is less important if you're a careful player but it enables you to get Rich Get Richer back online easier if you make a mistake. Armored Offensive basically became the flame belch in Eternal, which is a much better implementation of Armor restacking IMO.

it is still possible to get armor from meathook using the dazed and confused rune but only if you use meathook at close range
but yes, it also depends on the finishing animation
about the similarity of the runes i wanted to say that both of these runes can help you kill more demons when they are stunned
anyway these 2 runes are everyone's preference
for me both of these runes are useful and good