Is this game worth coming back too?

[Bread in the fridge]

I haven't played since September 2021 with over 1,200 hours in I uninstalled being fed up with all the nerfs and pulled content. Apparently TAG2 got some buffs but my beloved TAG1 is still a watered down mess of it's former self it did have a mod that fixed this but this mod Original TAG1 hasn't been updated since March 2021. It depresses me that few will know the glory of beating the original TAG1 on UN.
So basically the game felt like casual garbage to me so I got rid of it should I reconsider now that some new junk has been added?
PS I don't hate the game I just hate the way it's being treated

[Bread in the fridge]

Publicado originalmente por Kyller92 AKA Cinos:

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

Not Quake 1 - Quake 1 is easy AF

I'd even say the whole Quake franchise is very easy. Quake 3 is slightly harder but it's just fighting bots so that's quite different.

Your suppost to play with people

[Bread in the fridge]

Publicado originalmente por alka:

lol 1200 hours of 'casual garbage'

Nightmare and UN only I have screenshots to prove it since the achievements don't push you to git gud

[Bread in the fridge]

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

Publicado originalmente por slyofwar:

So basically no never play again?
PS the Master levels are childs play compared to the Quake franchise tbh
PSS i thought this game was going to be eternal

Not Quake 1 - Quake 1 is easy AF

Fascinating

[Grampire]

Publicado originalmente por slyofwar:

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

Not Quake 1 - Quake 1 is easy AF

Fascinating

Isn't it?

[chester]

To answer OP's question, TAG 2 still isn't really worth playing. Reclaimed Earth received some decent changes, but I can't say the same for the other two levels.

TAG 1 is still worth playing, even if the nerfs are disappointing.

Horde Mode doesn't really get challenging up until the very end. Most of the challenge comes from trying to maximize your score, not from the fights themselves.

The new Master Levels are all pretty solid. I still think SGN remains on top, but they're all good and decently challenging nonetheless.

You should try playing modded levels. Some of them can get fatiguing, but they're extremely fun if you're in the mood for a challenge. You'd probably enjoy any level from Zandy, Delta, Konvaz, or Saleem. Zandy's Doom Hunter Based is my personal favorite. If you want something that's brutally difficult for the sake of being difficult, give Unreclaimed Earth a try

[Grampire]

Publicado originalmente por chester:

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

Not Quake 1 - Quake 1 is easy AF

Nightmare can be a bit tough if you don't know the quad locations

I admit I haven't done the expacks yet so those might be rougher, but the base game wasn't too bad IMO.

[alka]

Publicado originalmente por slyofwar:

Publicado originalmente por alka:

lol 1200 hours of 'casual garbage'

Nightmare and UN only I have screenshots to prove it since the achievements don't push you to git gud

I don't want to see your screenshots dude, I'm sure you are a bad ass. I just don't understand how someone can put 1200 hours into something they describe as casual garbage. I mean, weren't the first 500 or 1000 hours long enough to get an idea about the game?

[chester]

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

Publicado originalmente por chester:

Nightmare can be a bit tough if you don't know the quad locations

I admit I haven't done the expacks yet so those might be rougher, but the base game wasn't too bad IMO.

Fair. I haven't done the expansions yet either, but I'd argue that the base game has a handful of fights that can be brutal on nightmare if you don't have quad.

[Grampire]

Publicado originalmente por chester:

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

I admit I haven't done the expacks yet so those might be rougher, but the base game wasn't too bad IMO.

Fair. I haven't done the expansions yet either, but I'd argue that the base game has a handful of fights that can be brutal on nightmare if you don't have quad.

You're right, I think it's just the ability to save-scum through those sections that probably makes them feel less intense lol.

[Kyller92 AKA Cinos]

Publicado originalmente por slyofwar:

Publicado originalmente por Kyller92 AKA Cinos:

I'd even say the whole Quake franchise is very easy. Quake 3 is slightly harder but it's just fighting bots so that's quite different.

Your suppost to play with people

I agree... but this doesn't change anything I said, even the opposite.

Also, I realize you complain about the fact TAG1 was made too easy (even if most changes were reverted), but when someone told you to just try the Master Levels that are way harder than OG TAG1, you just answered that Quake is harder (for some reason ?). So I don't get the point of this thread.

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Publicado originalmente por Kyller92 AKA Cinos:

So I don't get the point of this thread.

cause it's bait

[catb0mb]

can i be totally honest i barely noticed the tag2 buffs because i don't specifically memorise every single demon spawn

on that note i didn't even notice the changes done originally to atlantica before they were reverted, the only tag1 changes i noticed was the lack of the spirit baron as the introduction to the enemy and that's just because that was an objectively ♥♥♥♥ way to introduce the enemy

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Publicado originalmente por catb0mb:

the only tag1 changes i noticed was the lack of the spirit baron as the introduction to the enemy and that's just because that was an objectively ♥♥♥♥ way to introduce the enemy

Agreed, it should have been a tyrant.

[Grampire]

Publicado originalmente por catb0mb:

the only tag1 changes i noticed was the lack of the spirit baron as the introduction to the enemy and that's just because that was an objectively ♥♥♥♥ way to introduce the enemy

I guess one man's "objectively" is another man's "subjectively" then, because that baron was absolutely perfect and actually put up a fight.

His replacement dread knights can be killed by standing still and using only the microwave and chainsaw.

https://youtu.be/TjyxNMs5yH0

[catb0mb]

Publicado originalmente por Grampire:

Publicado originalmente por catb0mb:

the only tag1 changes i noticed was the lack of the spirit baron as the introduction to the enemy and that's just because that was an objectively ♥♥♥♥ way to introduce the enemy

I guess one man's "objectively" is another man's "subjectively" then, because that baron was absolutely perfect and actually put up a fight.

His replacement dread knights can be killed by standing still and using only the microwave and chainsaw.

https://youtu.be/TjyxNMs5yH0

yeah, if you know the game inside out.

for a first time run, the baron is unfair to introduce the spirit. it's too high of a skill spike especially compared to everything else up to that point. having a knight and THEN putting in a baron in later is a better idea because it ramps up the difficulty over time.

if you're gonna be a difficulty elitist then ♥♥♥♥ off.