Hypothesis: Battlemode has a small playerbase because of ballista boosters

[harbinger]

Ballista boosters are horrible, that is, they are horrible. They really are. Games are unbalanced as f*ck because you use ballista boosting. Now, you should wonder why da f*ck the Battlemode's playerbase is so small. New players leave the game after 1-2 rounds because you obliterate them. I leave the game after 1-2 rounds because the game is simply toxic. It's like being in Chernobyl. So, keep using your stupid ballista boosting, and soon you will get zero players to play against and you will have a f*cking good life.

[Ace]

It takes skill to do it, learn to adapt.

[o_dey]

This is what happens to you when you walk in on someone ballista boosting on your mom. So, remember kids, always knock first❕

[harbinger]

I am bursting into laughter. Ha ha. Hah. Have anything useful to say? Like do you work for Id Software? Do you use ballista boosting and want to be clever and stop using it so that the player base doesn't go to zero very soon? Good.

[Zapmaster]

It's only dead because most people never even bothered trying it. Vast majority of people bought Eternal for single player and that was that.

[harbinger]

I've seen many newbies leave after 1-2 rounds. The reason is - games are unbalanced and they can't have fun. How can you have fun if you get obliterated? The multipliyer is very good and enjoyable, as long as you don't have ballista boosters and games are balanced. I actually prefer cheaters to ballista boosters. They are actually easier to beat.

[o_dey]

Originally posted by crankshaft:

I am bursting into laughter. Ha ha. Hah. Have anything useful to say? Like do you work for Id Software? Do you use ballista boosting and want to be clever and stop using it so that the player base doesn't go to zero very soon? Good.

I'm going to ballista boost even harder now, all the way to Texas, where I'll collect my shill-check from Hughie Martino himself.

All the ballista boosters are actually secretly paid off by the it's a software company, a machiavellian scheme to make Battlemode as unattractive as possible, so that the next multiplayer, a blend of Minecraft, Super Mario Party and Fall Guys, will be very much welcomed by the ballista buκaκe exhausted player base❕

[o_dey]

Jokes and stupid bait aside, Battlemode isn't unbalanced because of ballista boosting, it's unbalanced because matchmaking effing sucks, when absolute noobs are matched against absolute pros, then it's going to suck, that's the way it would be in every multiplayer game ever where experience has no influence on matchmaking.

[harbinger]

Absolute noobs are matched against prop players because the playerbase is small and there isn't anyone else to match you against, and the playerbase is small because of ballista boosters, which discourage anyone, even the prop non-ballista boosters players.

You probably never played Battlemode. I've never seen you in 1 year. You talk like you know. But you know nothing. You only know when you play against crazy ballista boosters. Let's talk then. I don't give a damn what you do in single-mode. You can kiss mancubus if that's your thing, or really do whatever you want.

[The Chessotron]

I always try talking to you, but you always stop responding and it makes me sad :((

Originally posted by crankshaft:

Go play against Savs, DimasBruns

Done, and done. :3

Never once had an issue with Sav (have done consistent private matches with Sav for the past year) or DimaBrun ballista boosting lol. Sav gets overconfident and boosts himself into trouble a lot of the time, or boosts so much that he lets demons have full control of the center of the map (Tundra and Celestial). DimaBrun is a high mid tier slayer, much better pain elemental then they are slayer.

Originally posted by crankshaft:

Like do you work for Id Software?

You know who does work for ID software? Simploo. And well, if I recall correctly, I do believe that he did infact play Battlemode at one point... and with- who was it? Or right, ZANARATHAZ and Hue! And now bear with me for a second, but ZanarathaZ, used to- get this; BALLISTA BOOST!! And not once, not ONCE did Simploo, or Hue for that matter EVER say that ballista boosting was "broken" in any sort of way!

But ballista boosting isn't endorsed or acknowledged by ID employees right? Yeah no, Simploo has never ballista boosted before, he's never played slayer nor played against slayers who ballista boost. Hugo Martin has never directly shouted out HeyKyle (a filthy ballista booster) on stream, nor has there EVER been an officially hosted "Friday Night Fights" Tournament where ballista boosting wasn't banned. Nope, never happened. Andromida never ballista boosted on an official Bethesda stream fully infront of Hugo Martin and the casual DOOM community.

If the ID employees thought that ballista boosting was broken for the game. They had more then plenty of opportunity to patch it or remove it. But they didn't, why particularly do you think that is?

Originally posted by crankshaft:

I've seen many newbies leave after 1-2 rounds. The reason is - games are unbalanced and they can't have fun. How can you have fun if you get obliterated? The multiplayer is very good and enjoyable, as long as you don't have ballista boosters and games are balanced. I actually prefer cheaters to ballista boosters. They are actually easier to beat.

Yes! The games are unbalanced, because of the fact that a slayer that has been playing for YEARS gets put against people who just picked up the game! This isn't ballista boosting's issue, it's because the MATCHMAKING IS GOD AWFUL!

If you're a slayer, and you don't ballista boost properly, to get to good positions, or at good times? You die. That's the long and short of it. As a slayer you must have an underlying understanding of positioning and the game's systems. Not once will you see a bad slayer become good instantly because of ballista boosting, ballista boosting comes from being good at the game, not the other way around.

If you have THIS much of an issue with ballista boosting, then again, I have to assume you've legitimately never heard of vertical movement, because understanding your vertical movement as a demon completely invalidates ballista boosting. For a demon like pain elemental (and all demons mind you, but pain elemental by far has the easiest time with it); baiting slayer's movement is a core fundamental skill. They officially call the demon's side "strategy" for a reason.

Originally posted by crankshaft:

You talk like you know. But you know nothing.

Evidently he knows about as much or more then you UwU.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Ace:

It takes skill to do it, learn to adapt.

I have played it, plenty of times, it's nothing special. That being said the people who do ballista boost are very skilled & use the games movement to there advantage. Either adapt or have a tantrum on the forums because you lost.

[o_dey]

Noob vs Pro Matchmaking in Battlemode was always somewhat of a problem, even years ago when there was a bigger playerbase, but in the beginning mostly everyone kinda sucked, so there was that. And then everything got way worse with Battlemode 2, you can find the same complaints in threads from 3+ years ago. If you're actually a long time Battlemode player, then you should know that. By the devs own admission, actual experience isn't really a factor, especially not as of 2.0, streaks are, but that's hardly experience, being matched against a variety of skill levels is actually intended.

The asymmetric mode was never really popular to begin with, and the non-SBMM did the rest, over time it of course filtered all the non-commited players, resulting in a player base that mostly consists of long time pros. It has nothing to do with ballista boosting, at all. You can take it away, and an experienced slayer will still demolish any non-pro demons in the blink of an eye, not to mention that there's still yeethooking, lurch/bunny-hopping (the demons can do it too), and wall-dashing.

[The Chessotron]

https://youtu.be/DvYvYjP_Bm0?si=rFue2rQzHmN4U41J

Woah... how did this get here? Oh well. I'm sure there's no ballista boosting in here, and I'm sure Hugo isn't impressed by both sides for their dedication and skill. Nah.

[FlavorfulGecko5]

What is with you and your hyperfixation on ballista boosting? Vanilla Battlemode has a whole boatload of balance problems, but ballista boosting has never been one of them.

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Originally posted by FlavorfulGecko5:

What is with you and your hyperfixation on ballista boosting? Vanilla Battlemode has a whole boatload of balance problems, but ballista boosting has never been one of them.

My only assumption is that OP has issues learning how to do it and thus shames everyone else who got good. So mostly an ego issue, the usual "either play like me or you're not really playing!" charade.

According to post #9 the mechanic itself has definitely been acknowledged and supported by the devs. The OP historically seems a bit too chicken to reply to this person though.

[mike hawk]

de players when they dont have it easy:

(i havent opened this game in over 2 years)