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KrZ May 30, 2024 @ 10:03am
The Dark Ages - no glory kills!
Sick and tired of the forced glory kills and rainbow loot showers :aboboface:

Please move on from this and try something different!
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potato May 30, 2024 @ 10:04am 
nah, i like glory kills
You know the glory kills are optional...

As for the rainbow stuff. Come on man. Us queers just want to love you like we love each other. No need for the tears bro. Just love.
Grampire May 30, 2024 @ 10:16am 
I think a lot of people would like to see a reduced emphasis on glory kills, but I think there's enough flexibility to play in a way that minimizes their impact. At least in 2016/Eternal.

Generally, I would like to see them build the game out in a way that minimizes iframe use in general. I think it could make the game faster with less downtime. And I say this as someone who plays Eternal in a way that maximizes GK use.

They could give a melee attack that gives health and also triggers tokens for demons within a perimeter around you to simulate being swarmed during a GK without actually needing the animation, for example. That would make health resupply potentially dangerous in a similar way it is now but also make it instant.

Definitely mechanics they could consider to speed things up.
Danlol May 30, 2024 @ 10:29am 
cannot wait for dark ages. there is a codex early on that describes the priests leading a doomguy and group of guards into a portal and betraying them, like they were friends and everything; leaving them there for everyone to die but doomguy. obvious that will be in the game, cannot fcking waaaait.
momoi_gaming May 30, 2024 @ 11:34am 
glory kills are no forced, you can get some health by just killing demons.

I like that in eternal you have one more reason to use it (refill your BP), maybe they will give you a new reason now to use it, and if they remove it, they should make it worth it
Grampire May 30, 2024 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Ronin_019:
glory kills are no forced, you can get some health by just killing demons.

I like that in eternal you have one more reason to use it (refill your BP), maybe they will give you a new reason now to use it, and if they remove it, they should make it worth it
Agreed.

It is an insanely powerful tool in Eternal however - so much so that it's virtually impossible to ignore.

Not just for health/iframes either - it can recharge dashes, charges blood punch, stalls for other cooldowns, and more importantly procs the blood fueled rune which encourages frequent GKs to maintain uptime.

Plus there's so little risk in this game for using it that it's basically a no-brainer every time. I think they should definitely take a look at either increasing the risk or reducing the reward.
o_dey May 30, 2024 @ 11:58am 
If the game will play like Hummus Macaroni said it would in one of the livestreams back then, meaning like a bulldozer IIRC, compared to a tank in 2016, and a racecar in Eternal, then if anything it might actually need more emphasis on glory kills and iframes. Being slow like a dozer needs some kind of counterbalancing if they want to keep even just hints of the push forward combat fundamentals 🤷‍♂️
momoi_gaming May 30, 2024 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Grampire:
Originally posted by Ronin_019:
glory kills are no forced, you can get some health by just killing demons.

I like that in eternal you have one more reason to use it (refill your BP), maybe they will give you a new reason now to use it, and if they remove it, they should make it worth it
Agreed.

It is an insanely powerful tool in Eternal however - so much so that it's virtually impossible to ignore.

Not just for health/iframes either - it can recharge dashes, charges blood punch, stalls for other cooldowns, and more importantly procs the blood fueled rune which encourages frequent GKs to maintain uptime.

Plus there's so little risk in this game for using it that it's basically a no-brainer every time. I think they should definitely take a look at either increasing the risk or reducing the reward.
increase the risk would be the best, actually the only risk is letting the enemies gather around you while you execute it.
Sar May 30, 2024 @ 12:01pm 
You will glory kill ze demons and you will be happy.
Grampire May 30, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by o_dey:
If the game will play like Hummus Macaroni said it would in one of the livestreams back then, meaning like a bulldozer IIRC, compared to a tank in 2016, and a racecar in Eternal, then if anything it might actually need more emphasis on glory kills and iframes. Being slow like a dozer needs some kind of counterbalancing if they want to keep even just hints of the push forward combat fundamentals 🤷‍♂️

Yes, those comments from the devs do worry me a lot.

Speeding the game up more than Eternal - already a fast game - is going to be too much for a lot of people. So you're probably right: there could be even more emphasis on GKs and setting up animation based iframes.
momoi_gaming May 30, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
Also, do you get some iframes after a glory kill in this game? I notice that when I glory kill an enemy on an electrified floor, I can stand on it without taking damage for a moment.
ziontheGOAT May 30, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
"forced" glory kills LOL ok man
Last edited by ziontheGOAT; May 30, 2024 @ 12:33pm
potato May 30, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by ziontheGOAT:
"forced" glory kills LOL ok man
yea dood

i'm forced to play doom eternal

i'm forced to do glory kills in doom eternal

i'm forced to use chainsaw in doom eternal

i'm being held hostage by doom eternal

please send help
Grampire May 30, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by Ronin_019:
Also, do you get some iframes after a glory kill in this game? I notice that when I glory kill an enemy on an electrified floor, I can stand on it without taking damage for a moment.

You do, which is why you can buffer swapping to the chaingun and activating personal shield before iframes end and prevent any (non-aoe) damage.
Originally posted by potato:
Originally posted by ziontheGOAT:
"forced" glory kills LOL ok man
yea dood

i'm forced to play doom eternal

i'm forced to do glory kills in doom eternal

i'm forced to use chainsaw in doom eternal

i'm being held hostage by doom eternal

please send help

also

Woke Rainbows are forced on me.
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