WT* is this secret encounter 2 in the HOLT? NIGHTMARE

[Caine]

guys, this is just unbelievable, can you imagine, i think i nearly got it twice, the arena is the WORST DESIGN i encountered in recent years, this is maybe the tip of the iceberg, even hard JRPGS didnt pushyou over like this. you play against 2 archviles + many imps. ok done, thenyou get spammed with more guys and whatever comes in, i used the BFG. then however come 2 hoverboard homing missile guys in this SMALL ARENA which already sucks + if you didnt kill these new enemies which have a shiel and you need to shoot in the head it sucks even more but then i got it done too and was like FINALLY I BEAT THIS ♥♥♥♥! nah nah man, now comes the most stupid enemy in a doom game, this cartoonish stupid enemy which is just annoying and you feel like having to walk away like in a survival game.... + this guy is infested. great design + many more imps. i shoot this guys with double shotty + ballista about 10 times, i get nervous and shaky and replenish health and ammo and i think i nearly got it ♥♥♥♥♥♥ imp spawns behind me aand ♥♥♥♥♥ me up. rage quit. this is no fun. it just is more my gaming honour when i can say in a club with all people crowded that i did this stage and everyone will party me and i will get a superstar, no?

this is pure evilness and bad design. i would have never thought a Doom guy would suck so hard (nah it is a great game but on nightmare and some aspects it sucks, i still like it) from bad design, bad difficulty spikes and arena fight in small corridors.

i here think to officially go down to Ultra Violence difficulty. i guess my honour is now broken. i dont want to get a heartattack of this crap.

:D thx

[Mortimer Reed]

It was actually nerfed. The original version was more punishing.

[furbleburble]

Keep in mind, it's not actually necessary to complete it. And there is no shame in not doing so.

I found The Holt's Slayer Gate on Nightmare to be the single most difficult encounter in all 3 campaigns. I did manage to get it eventually, but I died there quite literally several dozen times. That section alone has prevented me from even attempting a second Nightmare run.

Since you've made it this far, I think you can complete the section. I'm sure others here would be happy to offer advice if you ask for it. And remember, if you can complete The Holt's Slayer Gate on Nightmare then you can complete everything else in the campaigns on Nightmare.

Edit: I'm confused. Your title indicates Secret Encounter 2, but your post seems to indicate the Slayer Gate.

[fuel]

Just because it's difficult it doesn't mean it's bad. It's bad only if you like easy things. You can certainly lower the difficulty. Even in ultra-violence that slayer gate is no joke the first time, but then once you beat it you can beat it again more easily even in nightmare. I actually don't think that gate is the hardest part of the game on a nightmare difficulty. On nightmare, there are other parts which are more difficult, including most master levels, but these are really not mandatory. However, I admit that the first time I played it I died so many times, but it taught me many things about this game.

[furbleburble]

Originally posted by hellwalker:

I actually don't think that gate is the hardest part of the game on a nightmare difficulty. On nightmare, there are other parts which are more difficult, including most master levels, but these are really not mandatory.

I don't know if you're making a counter point to what I said or if I just misunderstand you, but the Master Levels are not actually parts of the campaigns. I agree, though, that they can be the hardest aspects of the game, especially on Nightmare.

[o_dey]

If I can do it shіtface drunk, including lots of slip ups, then you too can learn to do it relatively easily and somewhat fast. Study the trigger demons, the spawn order and locations, remember the optimal ways to kill each demon, and then it's just "practice makes perfect", which will inevitably make you not only a better DOOM player (you'll be better at all the DOOMs), but also a better FPS gamer in general, it's worth it, it's a win-win-win.

First kill the Archvilles, then the Hell Knight, then the Blood Maykrs (use the shield to bait them), then the Doom Hunters (use the portals to surprise them), then the Dread Knights, after killing the second Dread Knight fire the BFG across the map once you see the Marauder spawning (with proper timing and FPS it can outright kill him, or at least heavily damage him), then kill the Hell Knight and the Carcasses to prevent them from being possessed (or kill the Spirit first), and then it's just some fodder.

God Speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDaqe4Uno1g

[Sar]

o_dey my man, your skills are definitely not average!

[o_dey]

Originally posted by Sar:

o_dey my man, your skills are definitely not average!

I do acknowledge that. But I'm also aware of my skill level when I started with Eternal, exclusively using the weapon wheel, no dance dance revolution movement, immediately (and I mean immediately) dying in the first Tyrant hallway on SGN ML, it was bad.

I wasn't good, at all, and to do this day my f'd up shoulder hands me a keyboard/mouse coordination handicap that makes me mess up a lot. But from relatively early on, watching some Speedrunner content helped me a lot to very quickly improve, to the point that I still feel embarrassed how I could've ever played this game so badly as I did back then. So I believe in all the gehmers that are just like me, study and practice will make them "perfect" eventually 🙃

[Lil Femboy Toes]

I think its fun

[Trans Lives Matter <3]

you just need a ammo