Why do people suddenly hate this game?

[AMAZING PAPERBOY DELIVERS!]

I've seen a lot more hate for this game lately, back in 2020 it was getting gassed up 25/8. It ain't my favorite Doom game by any means, but I thought it was pretty good. My only issues are the plot and the graphics.(They're well-made, it just looks too goofy for my tastes. 2016 had a better style.) Edit: DID I REALLY TITLE THIS "Why do people suddenly hate this game all of a sudden?" I know I was tired, but come on.

[Hundinger]

Not suddenly. There were always people who don't like the game and their representatives on this forum have been here consistently for years.

[Joker]

Originally posted by Hundinger:

Not suddenly. There were always people who don't like the game and their representatives on this forum have been here consistently for years.

also OP your opinion on the graphics is very interesting. D:E's artstyle is much closer to the OG artstyle and color pallet than D2016. i bring it up because one of the big criticisms regarding D2016 was its way different artstyle and much more mute color pallet compared to the OG games. though nowadays it seems many people are doing a 180, preferring the artstyle and color pallet of D2016 that they previously criticized as being "too different and not DOOM"

[Jordan_Peterson]

Ah, the classic misinterpretation of graphics and art style.
Back when Doom was released, it was normal for VGA graphics cards to support only 256 colors.
I notice the same issue with animes when some movie studios think they need to adapt them into live-action films, attempting to use the same color art style, believing this will please the fans.
Someone with talent or common sense would realize that certain art styles work only for specific mediums; in a different context, it can feel alienating.
The same principle applies here.
However, this approach suits the Fortnite/console demographic of gamers who like flashy, rainbow-colored things.
It proves that the game was more intended to cater towards people who were not born when Doom came out.
And this whole approach makes Doom feel more like a joke than something scary or cool. But as we've seen in many discussions, hardcore fans often merely echo the same weak excuses fed to them by the developers, failing to think independently or critically about the decisions made.

[Sar]

That’s not how limited palettes work. Quake 1 also had a limited color palette (I think it even has less colors than Doom in its default palette) and no one in their right mind would call Quake 1 too colorful or cartoony.

Doom being colorful was a conscious design decision made by id.

[Biden unleashed]

so doom 2016 you were able to walk off high points and ledges and you would contine moving while eternal if you walk off a high point you drop like a stone
movment is diffrent, and for me ammo and weapons menagment sucks - also wtf is with the story?

[Joker]

Originally posted by Jordan Peterson:

Ah, the classic misinterpretation of graphics and art style.
Back when Doom was released, it was normal for VGA graphics cards to support only 256 colors.
I notice the same issue with animes when some movie studios think they need to adapt them into live-action films, attempting to use the same color art style, believing this will please the fans.
Someone with talent or common sense would realize that certain art styles work only for specific mediums; in a different context, it can feel alienating.
The same principle applies here.
However, this approach suits the Fortnite/console demographic of gamers who like flashy, rainbow-colored things.
It proves that the game was more intended to cater towards people who were not born when Doom came out.
And this whole approach makes Doom feel more like a joke than something scary or cool. But as we've seen in many discussions, hardcore fans often merely echo the same weak excuses fed to them by the developers, failing to think independently or critically about the decisions made.

this is cool and all but... source for Carmack, Romero and or the team saying (t)he(y) wanted the game to have a more mute color pallet?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Jordan Peterson:

However, this approach suits the Fortnite/console demographic of gamers who like flashy, rainbow-colored things.
It proves that the game was more intended to cater towards people who were not born when Doom came out.
And this whole approach makes Doom feel more like a joke than something scary or cool. But as we've seen in many discussions, hardcore fans often merely echo the same weak excuses fed to them by the developers, failing to think independently or critically about the decisions made.

Just to correct some misinformation here as you havn't yet played the game. Eternal was designed for pc first & then console, this is evident by the fact that it runs incredibly smooth & is not locked at 60fps & has more pc features.

The game has a bit more colour because of the the ammo, it's designed so that the player can see the pickups in the fighting quickly so that you can identify it, this is also why the weapon wheel is coloured, considering the classic games also use 10 times more colour than eternal it's really weak argument to keep spamming.

Ah the fortnite argument, another weak view that has no bases. When doom has a battle royal mode, has third person view, has building & has dragonball Z characters as playable ones then you can make the comparison, but seeing as it dosn't then i'd say come up with a better argument.

Originally posted by Jordan Peterson:

hardcore fans often merely echo the same weak excuses fed to them by the developers, failing to think independently or critically about the decisions made

Yeah it's almost like we've actually played the & know what were talking about.

Do better.

[Cksalzy]

Lot of people mad seeing others enjoy a good game

[Cksalzy]

Originally posted by Jordan Peterson:

Ah, the classic misinterpretation of graphics and art style.
Back when Doom was released, it was normal for VGA graphics cards to support only 256 colors.
I notice the same issue with animes when some movie studios think they need to adapt them into live-action films, attempting to use the same color art style, believing this will please the fans.
Someone with talent or common sense would realize that certain art styles work only for specific mediums; in a different context, it can feel alienating.
The same principle applies here.
However, this approach suits the Fortnite/console demographic of gamers who like flashy, rainbow-colored things.
It proves that the game was more intended to cater towards people who were not born when Doom came out.
And this whole approach makes Doom feel more like a joke than something scary or cool. But as we've seen in many discussions, hardcore fans often merely echo the same weak excuses fed to them by the developers, failing to think independently or critically about the decisions made.

if you want D:E to look like classic doom then there is a settings in the game for that. Oh you can also play the first and second doom for free while in D:E. Comparing it to fortnite is so stupid. Your just mad doom eternal has too much color. Pretty sure your the only one that has a issue with this. You are not the majority. I guarantee you that 99.9% of the community will disagree with you. And what does people being born after the first doom have to do with anything? Gate-keeping years is crazy asf. D:E's colors perfectly fit the settings and i i love looking at the environment every now and then. If you hate the game so much for no reason then why are you even in the forums? Dont you have something else to do then be a narcissist all the time.

[SuperFly]

Originally posted by AMAZING PAPERBOY DELIVERS!:

Why do people suddenly hate this game?

It's really not sudden.
The game only had a very brief window of popularity in 2020. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3008123313
Most notably, this game has been embroiled in multiple controversies during its short shelf life -- that the leadership at Bethesda/idSoftware handled in the worst ways possible.

DOOM:Eternal is more notorious, than popular.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Cksalzy:

Originally posted by Jordan Peterson:

Ah, the classic misinterpretation of graphics and art style.
Back when Doom was released, it was normal for VGA graphics cards to support only 256 colors.
I notice the same issue with animes when some movie studios think they need to adapt them into live-action films, attempting to use the same color art style, believing this will please the fans.
Someone with talent or common sense would realize that certain art styles work only for specific mediums; in a different context, it can feel alienating.
The same principle applies here.
However, this approach suits the Fortnite/console demographic of gamers who like flashy, rainbow-colored things.
It proves that the game was more intended to cater towards people who were not born when Doom came out.
And this whole approach makes Doom feel more like a joke than something scary or cool. But as we've seen in many discussions, hardcore fans often merely echo the same weak excuses fed to them by the developers, failing to think independently or critically about the decisions made.

if you want D:E to look like classic doom then there is a settings in the game for that. Oh you can also play the first and second doom for free while in D:E. Comparing it to fortnite is so stupid. Your just mad doom eternal has too much color. Pretty sure your the only one that has a issue with this. You are not the majority. I guarantee you that 99.9% of the community will disagree with you. And what does people being born after the first doom have to do with anything? Gate-keeping years is crazy asf. D:E's colors perfectly fit the settings and i i love looking at the environment every now and then. If you hate the game so much for no reason then why are you even in the forums? Dont you have something else to do then be a narcissist all the time.

See, that's where you're assuming things and taking my words too personally.
I'm just sharing my opinion and experience with the game, nothing more.
It seems like you're attacking me instead of addressing my arguments.
But, let's be real, if you're into the whole flashy, Fortnite-style graphics, of course, you'll defend it. Why argue, right?

Also, just because some people might like something doesn't automatically make it good. That's like saying a brand is great without knowing anything about the quality or ethics behind it. It's not about how many people agree; it's about personal taste and having an UNBIASED perspective.
Unfortunately majority of steam opinions, especially from fanatics, doesn't reflect quality.

So you're saying 99.9% of the community disagrees with me? Considering only about 1,000 people play this game daily, I'm actually fine with that. It shows I'm not just following a crowd, especially when it's such a small number.
But whether it's 1,000 players or a million, a large number of players doesn't automatically validate the quality of the game. My opinion is based on the game's merits, not its popularity.

If you really love the game, go enjoy it. Why spend time in forums trying to convince others?
People have different tastes, and that's okay. Not everyone has to like the same things.

And it's a good thing that there are voices like mine to balance out the echo chamber.
Just because someone has racked up +800 hours in a game doesn't mean their opinion is more valuable than someone with only 80 hours but with real expertise and knowledge in game design and the gaming industry. It's about quality of insight, not just quantity of playtime.

[RJX3029]

Originally posted by AMAZING PAPERBOY DELIVERS!:

I've seen a lot more hate for this game lately..

It's only about 4 people.. They're just really vocal about it. Every day on every thread.

If ya look up Steam charts and compare this to any other Doom game or really any single player game it has more players, it's the most played Doom game ever made according to Steam charts, and every single player game gets popular around release day then drops off pretty fast.

It's a bad faith argument to say low player count years after release means a single player game is bad. You play the game, most move on and play something else.

[RJX3029]

Originally posted by Jordan Peterson:

Originally posted by Cksalzy:

if you want D:E to look like classic doom then there is a settings in the game for that. Oh you can also play the first and second doom for free while in D:E. Comparing it to fortnite is so stupid. Your just mad doom eternal has too much color. Pretty sure your the only one that has a issue with this. You are not the majority. I guarantee you that 99.9% of the community will disagree with you. And what does people being born after the first doom have to do with anything? Gate-keeping years is crazy asf. D:E's colors perfectly fit the settings and i i love looking at the environment every now and then. If you hate the game so much for no reason then why are you even in the forums? Dont you have something else to do then be a narcissist all the time.

See, that's where you're assuming things and taking my words too personally.
I'm just sharing my opinion and experience with the game, nothing more.
It seems like you're attacking me instead of addressing my arguments.
But, let's be real, if you're into the whole flashy, Fortnite-style graphics, of course, you'll defend it. Why argue, right?

Also, just because some people might like something doesn't automatically make it good. That's like saying a brand is great without knowing anything about the quality or ethics behind it. It's not about how many people agree; it's about personal taste and having an UNBIASED perspective.
Unfortunately majority of steam opinions, especially from fanatics, doesn't reflect quality.

So you're saying 99.9% of the community disagrees with me? Considering only about 1,000 people play this game daily, I'm actually fine with that. It shows I'm not just following a crowd, especially when it's such a small number.
But whether it's 1,000 players or a million, a large number of players doesn't automatically validate the quality of the game. My opinion is based on the game's merits, not its popularity.

If you really love the game, go enjoy it. Why spend time in forums trying to convince others?
People have different tastes, and that's okay. Not everyone has to like the same things.

And it's a good thing that there are voices like mine to balance out the echo chamber.
Just because someone has racked up +800 hours in a game doesn't mean their opinion is more valuable than someone with only 80 hours but with real expertise and knowledge in game design and the gaming industry. It's about quality of insight, not just quantity of playtime.

Dude you're making broad generalizations you could say all that about McDonald's french fries.

If you really don't like the game, why spend time in the forums trying to convince others? Or be specific about at least, and I still don't get how this is Fort-nighty there's blood and guts everywhere. The only bright colors are the drops just so they're easy to see from a ways away when you're moving fast.

Seen 1 valid criticism and that's when you walk off a ledge you stop and drop straight down, but you can jump and keep moving to overcome that, and I doubt it's an accident since the mechanics of this are so good. I just don't know why they did it that way.

[ElViejoSancaAa]

Originally posted by AMAZING PAPERBOY DELIVERS!:

I've seen a lot more hate for this game lately, back in 2020 it was getting gassed up 25/8. It ain't my favorite Doom game by any means, but I thought it was pretty good. My only issues are the plot and the graphics.(They're well-made, it just looks too goofy for my tastes. 2016 had a better style.) Edit: DID I REALLY TITLE THIS "Why do people suddenly hate this game all of a sudden?" I know I was tired, but come on.

Mostly skill issues, every single negative review I see about this game involves the facts that the game is too hard for them, IGN type ♥♥♥♥.
Too much lava 1/10.

[Cksalzy]

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by AMAZING PAPERBOY DELIVERS!:

Why do people suddenly hate this game?

It's really not sudden.
The game only had a very brief window of popularity in 2020. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3008123313
Most notably, this game has been embroiled in multiple controversies during its short shelf life -- that the leadership at Bethesda/idSoftware handled in the worst ways possible.

DOOM:Eternal is more notorious, than popular.

troll. You post this in every discussion. Every singleplayer game has a drop in players over time because people complete the game. Actually doom eternal was the best selling doom game ever and was a nominee for game of the year. So it was extremely popular more than it was "notorious". Your data is just factually incorrect and misleading. The game did not have a brief window of popularity. Your just flat out lying through your teeth.