Not enjoying it so far. Frustration level is very high...

[Hovercraft]

This is a rant, if you love this game, good for you. Don't tell me to get better (gitgud or whatever), I am too old for this.

I am late to the party, and god I was so mistaken what I was buying...

I managed to finish the main campaign and now on the last mission for the Ancient Gods Part 1.

I expected a shooter on rails and I got Tomb Raider from hell. I have huge disdain towards the person who came up with Marauders, and have very negative thoughts toward the person who thought rotating platforms, and grabbing distance of 2px for long jumps is a great idea in this genre of the game.

Instead of mindlessly mowing down the monsters I get a frustratingly hard platformer with really annoying enemies and lack of ammo.

The Marauder in particular is annoying as hell. Only sadist will put it into a secret encounter. How am I supposed to defeated in 10 seconds?! Screw this nonsense.

Lastly why the hell there is no quick save???

Yes, the right course is to uninstall it, but I am sucker for punishment and along with sunk cost fallacy I will come back to it tomorrow.


UPDATE: I managed to get to last boss of the AG2 and have given up. After reading about the last boss, it seems the crappy game mechanic (what fanbois call loop or dance) repeats 3 times for no reason (I guess to increase "the difficulty"). This gameplay is very unrewarding for me.

It is highly unlikely I will return to this game or any game in this franchise. This game has put me off greatly of "DOOM". This is a personal choice, and is my opinion.

I came to conclusion that I hate this game after 40 odd hours spent on it, as I realised this is was an abusive relationship. This game has gaslit me long enough.

This is a personal opinion and there is absolutely no point to convince me otherwise with "facts" (ie: got to learn the loop, you are playing it wrong), just as no point of trying to convince someone who likes a particular colour that the other colour is "better".

Game is uninstalled, and a negative review posted. Goodbye.

[chester]

This is a skill based game. If you weren't aware of that before you bought it then that's on you. Either keep going with it and get better (there's plenty of guides) or drop it.

[Thumper]

Very funny rant. Everything you hate about the game, I enjoy. I had a hard time with it at first, but I'm still playing. I'm also over 70 and Doom and Tomb Raider are my favorite games

[Mortimer Reed]

Originally posted by Thumper:

Very funny rant. Everything you hate about the game, I enjoy. I had a hard time with it at first, but I'm still playing. I'm also over 70 and Doom and Tomb Raider are my favorite games

Wow, you're amazing. I hope I still have good hand-eye coordination when I grow older.

[Mortimer Reed]

What difficulty are you playing at? If the game is too much for you, try playing at a lower one. Also, I recommend checking Under The Mayo's YouTube videos on Doom Eternal strategies.

[Mr.Fluffins]

I mean you did beat the main campaign, so its not all too bad. Besides, there are multiple difficulty options in the game, you can even play with cheats if you want.
But I suppose your problem is not with difficulty (which is modular), but the overall design of combat encounters. And I would say that for me ancient gods was a step in a wrong direction, with addition of annoying and obnoxious mechanics (not necessarily difficult, just tedious to deal with), so I can see why you would struggle with them.
Marauders are a gimmick one-dimensional enemy, that can be annoying to deal with, so I understand if they feel frustrating in general.
All I can say is, just adjust the difficulty, and beat particular frustrating parts with cheats or on even lower difficulty.

[Sar]

Originally posted by Hovercraft:

How am I supposed to defeated in 10 seconds?!

Stun him with SSG, switch to BFG and let him eat a green ball.

[Jordan_Peterson]

Originally posted by Hovercraft:

This is a rant, if you love this game, good for you. Don't tell me to get better (gitgud or whatever), I am too old for this.

I am late to the party, and god I was so mistaken what I was buying...

I managed to finish the main campaign and now on the last mission for the Ancient Gods Part 1.

I expected a shooter on rails and I got Tomb Raider from hell. I have huge disdain towards the person who came up with Marauders, and have very negative thoughts toward the person who thought rotating platforms, and grabbing distance of 2px for long jumps is a great idea in this genre of the game.

Instead of mindlessly mowing down the monsters I get a frustratingly hard platformer with really annoying enemies and lack of ammo.

The Marauder in particular is annoying as hell. Only sadist will put it into a secret encounter. How am I supposed to defeated in 10 seconds?! Screw this nonsense.

Lastly why the hell there is no quick save???

Yes, the right course is to uninstall it, but I am sucker for punishment and along with sunk cost fallacy I will come back to it tomorrow.

valid criticism!
I totally understand where you are coming from.

It has been said that if one does not enjoy a particular game, it simply isn't for them. However, imagine creating a car simulation out of The Witcher and then dismissing those who find it unsuitable.
The same could be said for the recent changes made to Doom, which have deviated too far from the essence of its greatness.
This shift in the game loop was already noticeable in 2016, but with the release of Doom Eternal, it has reached new levels of divergence.
While this may cater to certain speedrunners or those who enjoy a different style of gaming or like dance dance revolution type of games, it may not be suitable for others who appreciate the traditional Doom experience.
Let us offer our applause to those who do enjoy it, but also acknowledge that it is not for everyone.

[Thumper]

@Mortimer Reed, I'll be 72 come May, funny thing about Doom, it's the only game I ever played where I never had to look at the map to find secrets or my way around the map. I just knew. I can't say that with other games I've played.

[Deivisproltu123]

my brother in christ this game requires skill and it depends on what difficulty ur playing

[Hovercraft]

Combat is not an issue as such and changing difficulty is not going to make the jumps or ledge grab further. I don't believe reducing the difficulty increases the time given for the timed events.

The biggest problem is too much of parkour. There were a point it was simpler to reload the checkpoint than trying again after falling as it would teleport the character further back!
Sometimes, when falling, it would teleport into another fall. The fall recovery is inconsistent.

At some point in the Ancient Gods it took me one hour to get to the codex page, simply because I could not save at the platform I am supposed to to do jump -> dash -> dash -> jump, as it would reset me back too far, where I had to go through two spinning platforms that I am supposed to time them at a correct phase and grab the wall at an awkward angle.

The game mechanics is a torture, the excessive parkour gets too old really fast. Almost all the issues could have been fixed by proper save mechanics.

I am not inclined on cheating yet (not like it would help me with parkour in a satisfying way).

Regarding marauder, this kind of enemy should have been a one off boss fight, and forgotten about, since it is gets quite old.

Maybe in couple of days I will try again and beat that stupid encounter with a SSG+BFG method that was suggested here (I already did once in the main campaign).

I got 100% completion in the main campaign, so I am not doing too bad. Just disappointed that Ancient Gods only moved the game play in worse direction.

If I wanted parkour puzzle solving I would just play Tomb Raider (last three releases I enjoyed greatly). When I completed Doom 2016, I felt that some mechanics was a bit gimmicky, I wasn't expecting Doom Eternal to have taken that gimmick to the max.

[Mortimer Reed]

Originally posted by Hovercraft:

Combat is not an issue as such and changing difficulty is not going to make the jumps or ledge grab further. I don't believe reducing the difficulty increases the time given for the timed events.

The biggest problem is too much of parkour. There were a point it was simpler to reload the checkpoint than trying again after falling as it would teleport the character further back!
Sometimes, when falling, it would teleport into another fall. The fall recovery is inconsistent.

At some point in the Ancient Gods it took me one hour to get to the codex page, simply because I could not save at the platform I am supposed to to do jump -> dash -> dash -> jump, as it would reset me back too far, where I had to go through two spinning platforms that I am supposed to time them at a correct phase and grab the wall at an awkward angle.

The game mechanics is a torture, the excessive parkour gets too old really fast. Almost all the issues could have been fixed by proper save mechanics.

I am not inclined on cheating yet (not like it would help me with parkour in a satisfying way).

Regarding marauder, this kind of enemy should have been a one off boss fight, and forgotten about, since it is gets quite old.

Maybe in couple of days I will try again and beat that stupid encounter with a SSG+BFG method that was suggested here (I already did once in the main campaign).

I got 100% completion in the main campaign, so I am not doing too bad. Just disappointed that Ancient Gods only moved the game play in worse direction.

If I wanted parkour puzzle solving I would just play Tomb Raider (last three releases I enjoyed greatly). When I completed Doom 2016, I felt that some mechanics was a bit gimmicky, I wasn't expecting Doom Eternal to have taken that gimmick to the max.

The platforming in this game is very basic. I never got lost nor had difficulty grabbing ledges. The only platforming sections I had some problems with in my first playthrough is on the last part of Exultia, and the beginning section of Urdak.

If you are not using Air Control rune, you might want to try that. It makes platforming much more easier.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Hovercraft:

, I am too old for this.

I don't have much else to add to this aside from no you aren't.

Plenty of OG fans who enjoyed the original games play this game at a high level. It's not age. This game is MUCH easier than the originals once you learn the mechanics.

Also, did you by chance turn off tutorials or tips in the options? The Marauder is a mechanics check. Also, equip air control rune if you're having trouble with movement and traversal. The margin of error is more like 200-500 px, not 2.

[Dexter in the Dark]

Good on you for giving it a go, not all games are for every one. i also had a hard time with the platforming. for me i found playing with a controller was the ticket to getting through those sections. my biggest issue with the game was the damn cube in the blood swamps, after beating it it made me walk away from the game for almost a year.

but i love the game play so i keep coming back to the main campaign. i am going to have to finish the old gods part 2 at some point, can't put my finger on it but i keep losing interest in that one

[Lois Griffin]

Originally posted by Thumper:

Very funny rant. Everything you hate about the game, I enjoy. I had a hard time with it at first, but I'm still playing. I'm also over 70 and Doom and Tomb Raider are my favorite games

Thats funny because I too love it and IM over 100!

[Smask]

I am sure the computer is cheating.
Well that is what I used too scream ^^