I miss the Pistol.

[TTV ZiProphet]

What happened to the pistol from the first game? Why was it axed?

[Choco Fitz]

It did not fit the combat loop at all, it was only moderately strong in Doom 3. There was no use or purpose to it. It's still hidden away in the game's assets and is usable as long as you have a trainer for the game and input a certain command line. Trust me when I say it was very weak, but it looks fun. Look up youtube videos of it to know more.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

İlk olarak Chocolate Fitzgerald tarafından gönderildi:

It did not fit the combat loop at all, it was only moderately strong in Doom 3. There was no use or purpose to it. It's still hidden away in the game's assets and is usable as long as you have a trainer for the game and input a certain command line. Trust me when I say it was very weak, but it looks fun. Look up youtube videos of it to know more.

For the next one, Id should take a look at Ultrakill. The pistol remains relevant later on on Ultrakill, I would replace the Heavy Canon with a similar pistol and it would be more like the original Doom in that regard.

[Sar]

2016 pistol was unpleasant to use. I have no idea why they made it so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ inaccurate.

[TTV ZiProphet]

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İlk olarak Chocolate Fitzgerald tarafından gönderildi:

It did not fit the combat loop at all, it was only moderately strong in Doom 3. There was no use or purpose to it. It's still hidden away in the game's assets and is usable as long as you have a trainer for the game and input a certain command line. Trust me when I say it was very weak, but it looks fun. Look up youtube videos of it to know more.

For the next one, Id should take a look at Ultrakill. The pistol remains relevant later on on Ultrakill, I would replace the Heavy Canon with a similar pistol and it would be more like the original Doom in that regard.

I can agree to this opinion. As for combat loop, I understand... Just still miss the pistol. They could have beefed it a bit.

[Raytraced]

The real question tho is why do you miss it?

[TTV ZiProphet]

İlk olarak Raytraced tarafından gönderildi:

The real question tho is why do you miss it?

Had infinite ammo /w reloads. Easier to poke low/weak mobs and heal. Now we have the Chainsaw to recharge to loop for ammo, but something about the pistol just felt right to me. The game now had no pistol... It can literally just be my dumb opinion, but that was the loop I was use to for a while in the 2016 one. You know? Also, in my opinion as well but it being a "weak" pistol made it strong for chaining some things when you had no ammo.

[Raytraced]

İlk olarak ZiProphet tarafından gönderildi:

Had infinite ammo /w reloads.

Really? Don't remember it had reloading at all.

Well, you see, pretty much everything you described kinda goes against Eternal's combat design iteration, considering what they did with it ammo wise. So yeah, in addition to previous answers, I suppose giving a player an infinite ammo pistol in a game where even your regular punches don't deal any damage was out of question for Id.

[TTV ZiProphet]

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İlk olarak ZiProphet tarafından gönderildi:

Had infinite ammo /w reloads.

Really? Don't remember it had reloading at all.

Well, you see, pretty much everything you described kinda goes against Eternal's combat design iteration, considering what they did with it ammo wise. So yeah, I suppose giving a player an infinite ammo pistol in a game where even your regular punches don't deal any damage was out of question for Id.

*Shrugs*

[Trans Lives Matter <3]

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*Shrugs*

Don't forget to bind your *shrug* button to a key of your choice.

[Grampire]

The pistol from OG Doom grew up into the Heavy Cannon.

[UNBREAKABLE]

the heavy cannon is what the pistol dreamed of being and more

[Sar]

I miss with the pistol (because accuracy is bad).

[Trans Lives Matter <3]

I piss the mistol

[Sar]

Might want to get that checked, bro.

[TTV ZiProphet]

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I piss the mistol

I laughed. Here take award.