Why wasn't the Archvile....

[Vex Hilarius]

...introduced in Mars Core like in the trailer? Literally the next level (not counting the gladiator fight) they just throw him in randomly I'm sure that it wouldn't be much of a balancing issue if they placed him at Mars Core. Would have made the level go from a 9 to a 10 in my book.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

I imagine a mixture of introducing him for that event and possibly moving him in status from a boss like the maruder/hunter to just a super like the tyrant (who also largely had the same thing happen).

Would have prefered a archvile "boss" mid level over the totem platform in the later part of the map myself.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

I imagine a mixture of introducing him for that event and possibly moving him in status from a boss like the maruder/hunter to just a super like the tyrant (who also largely had the same thing happen).

Would have prefered a archvile "boss" mid level over the totem platform in the later part of the map myself.

I think having at least 2 in the level would have worked well. Just overall salty so many new demons didn't have a cool intro.

[LoveAndPeace]

they should have continued the time old tradition of doing instead of promising.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Originally posted by CyraxCyber:

they should have continued the time old tradition of doing instead of promising.

Invasion mode btfo'd.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Originally posted by CyraxCyber:

they should have continued the time old tradition of doing instead of promising.

Invasion mode btfo'd.

Except they did exactly this.

Invasion was never promised. And that's good, because it would've been horrible in this game.

Instead they did things that actually worked.

[Hundinger]

The archvile really could have used a proper introduction. When I played for the first time I didn't even realize he was there, I was desperately looking for a buff totem which somehow made me blind to this strange firewall appearing somewhere in the background, stupid me.
I think they added a tutorial message later, so that's solved for newer players.

But I don't really mind that they didn't introduce him in Mars Core. I also don't mind that the cut scene isn't consistent with the fact that we are already in possession of the plasma rifle. It's a little strange, but whatever.

The Mars Core ML gives us two archviles in that arena, so there is that.

[Ace]

Originally posted by CyraxCyber:

they should have continued the time old tradition of doing instead of promising.

Which they did, they never promised the archvile would be at that point in mars core.

[Ace]

Originally posted by CyraxCyber:

Originally posted by Ace:

Which they did, they never promised the archvile would be at that point in mars core.
I'm totally not a troll

alll i hear as bla bla bla.. does this armor make my ass look fat... blah blah

Thank you for showing everyone how immature you are :)

[EarthwormJim]

Try the master level of mars core, you’ll get a whole archville crew

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Invasion mode btfo'd.

Except they did exactly this.

Invasion was never promised. And that's good, because it would've been horrible in this game.

Instead they did things that actually worked.

Yeah they just put it in the trailers and promised "its coming" they never actually promised its in the current game.

That is 101% factual.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Originally posted by Grampire:

Except they did exactly this.

Invasion was never promised. And that's good, because it would've been horrible in this game.

Instead they did things that actually worked.

Yeah they just put it in the trailers and promised "its coming" they never actually promised its in the current game.

That is 101% factual.

Post the trailer please.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Yeah they just put it in the trailers and promised "its coming" they never actually promised its in the current game.

That is 101% factual.

Post the trailer please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSMoMtPmbI

15:00

[Fostin4]

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Originally posted by Grampire:

Post the trailer please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSMoMtPmbI

15:00

Looking back I have realised how polished the final game looks.

[Sar]

This might be cope, but, looking at the state of Battlemode, who would even play Invasion if it was released recently? Horde can be played solo and is a decent time waster if you just want to smash through some arenas.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Originally posted by Grampire:

Post the trailer please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSMoMtPmbI

15:00

Oh man, here we go again with the "they showed it." Cool, it was in a build at QuakeCon that they cut away from and talked about. Broken promise, sure, let's just call it that.

Quick question though - how do you think BM turned out? Think it's a good mode? Think it's fun?

Because what they showed is basically BM injected into an SP game. So please, after you're done telling me how bad it is that they broke this promise, follow up by telling me how great the asymmetrical abomination that is BM turned out, and has changed your life for the better.

• Tell me how great it would be to invade as an underpowered demon to get ♥♥♥♥ on by a fully powered Slayer.
  
• Or, tell me how great it would be for them to start balancing the SP game around invasions, ripping ♥♥♥♥ away from the Slayers either when they're invaded or otherwise.
  
• tell me how great it would be for new players trying to experience the feature early on before progressing their arsenal/kit and subsequently getting ♥♥♥♥ on by a demon.

I'd rather id break "promises" and focus literally anything else than put something that's pure janky nonsense - and would subsequently be completely ignored - into the final product. I would never have used this.

The fact its not in tells me they couldn't get it to work or be compelling. The fact you don't get that and are whining about "broken promises" means you didn't clear the Chasm of understanding why.