This is just nasty and why modern gaming sucks

[Witch ~]

So I bought the game a long time ago. And guess what? Apperently the NORMAL SP Campaign wasnt included in the packs I bought. Literally every game for decades had the normal campaign included just how it's meant to be.

I requested a refund now because I sure as hell wont pay extra for the campaign at full price. Thats just disgusting but expected from Bethesda.

[furbleburble]

引用自 Hundinger：

引用自 furbleburble：

Buying the wrong item because of hastily reading the descriptions is practically the definition of stupid. An honest mistake is a different matter and wouldn't warrant negative reactions.

I suspect people here would have reacted less negatively if OP said something like, "I just wanted to let everyone know that ____ doesn't contain the main campaign like I thought it did so this is a head's up to everyone to buy ____ instead if you want the main campaign plus DLCs." There'd still be negative reception but there would have been some positive as well.

You sound as if I had defended this guy's reaction which I didn't. But I'm in this forum since the release of this game and there were quite a few people who made this mistake. I refuse to call them stupid because of that. And most of them didn't behave like the guy here, they just were confused and thankful if forum members helped them. Making the description clearer wouldn't hurt, that's all I'm saying.

Looking over what I wrote I can see that I messed up. To be clear, I do not think you were defending OP's reaction. I split the single paragraph into two separate paragraphs to help separate thoughts, but I recognize that doesn't entirely clarify matters. The first paragraph was the point, or at least part of it, I wanted to express to you, while the second paragraph was simply a thought I had that went along with the second statement of the first paragraph. Unfortunately, I no longer recall my train of thought with that post and I don't know how to make things more clear. I try to be better than this and I apologize for my confusing post.

Also, I want to say, I don't think someone making an erroneous purchase inherently warrants negative responses. However, the onus is on the purchaser to verify the purchase was correct, both before purchase and after purchase.

Also also, I concede that it's entirely possible that OP did, in fact, make an honest mistake and many of us, myself included, are just assuming otherwise. Having said that, OP clearly didn't verify the purchase after the purchase was made, as indicated by OP.

[Hundinger]

引用自 furbleburble：

引用自 Hundinger：

You sound as if I had defended this guy's reaction which I didn't. But I'm in this forum since the release of this game and there were quite a few people who made this mistake. I refuse to call them stupid because of that. And most of them didn't behave like the guy here, they just were confused and thankful if forum members helped them. Making the description clearer wouldn't hurt, that's all I'm saying.

Looking over what I wrote I can see that I messed up. To be clear, I do not think you were defending OP's reaction. I split the single paragraph into two separate paragraphs to help separate thoughts, but I recognize that doesn't entirely clarify matters. The first paragraph was the point, or at least part of it, I wanted to express to you, while the second paragraph was simply a thought I had that went along with the second statement of the first paragraph. Unfortunately, I no longer recall my train of thought with that post and I don't know how to make things more clear. I try to be better than this and I apologize for my confusing post.

Also, I want to say, I don't think someone making an erroneous purchase inherently warrants negative responses. However, the onus is on the purchaser to verify the purchase was correct, both before purchase and after purchase.

Also also, I concede that it's entirely possible that OP did, in fact, make an honest mistake and many of us, myself included, are just assuming otherwise. Having said that, OP clearly didn't verify the purchase after the purchase was made, as indicated by OP.

All good, we aren't really in a disagreement. OP is an ass, and the funny thing is, he or she most likely doesn't read this discussion anymore, they said goodbye like 30 answers ago. We are just arguing because.

[furbleburble]

引用自 Hundinger：

All good, we aren't really in a disagreement. OP is an ass, and the funny thing is, he or she most likely doesn't read this discussion anymore, they said goodbye like 30 answers ago. We are just arguing because.

Glad we could work it out.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm interested in a thoughtful conversation. Regardless of OP, I think it's worth discussing whether Eternal's store page is clearly labeled, as well as what should be done to improve it and whether it's even necessary to improve.

[Mathelgar]

引用自 furbleburble：

引用自 Hundinger：

All good, we aren't really in a disagreement. OP is an ass, and the funny thing is, he or she most likely doesn't read this discussion anymore, they said goodbye like 30 answers ago. We are just arguing because.

Glad we could work it out.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm interested in a thoughtful conversation. Regardless of OP, I think it's worth discussing whether Eternal's store page is clearly labeled, as well as what should be done to improve it and whether it's even necessary to improve.

How about for the Season pass its something like:

INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 1
INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 2
INCLUDES: Battlemode
DOES NOT INCLUDE: DOOM Eternal main campaign

[Hundinger]

引用自 ^1Ravencap0807：

引用自 furbleburble：

Glad we could work it out.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm interested in a thoughtful conversation. Regardless of OP, I think it's worth discussing whether Eternal's store page is clearly labeled, as well as what should be done to improve it and whether it's even necessary to improve.

How about for the Season pass its something like:

INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 1
INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 2
INCLUDES: Battlemode
DOES NOT INCLUDE: DOOM Eternal main campaign

Yes.

[furbleburble]

引用自 ^1Ravencap0807：

INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 1
INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 2
INCLUDES: Battlemode
DOES NOT INCLUDE: DOOM Eternal main campaign

引用自 furbleburble：

While it seems to me that adding, "Does not include base game," is a good idea on the surface, I can't help but wonder if it would actually create more confusion somehow.

I like what you said but... I can see it now...
"If Doom Eternal does not contain Doom Eternal then WTF DOES IT CONTAIN?!"

[tyl0413]

There's so many other things you could've chose to complain about yet you still managed to choose the one thing that's actually not the publishers fault, I don't see the point of buying the DLCs without the base game but more options never hurt and they shouldn't be removed just so dumbasses don't get confused, this is why the real problems will never get fixed bc everyone is too busy complaining about dumbass irrelevant ♥♥♥♥, next time read what you're buying before buying.

[Devil Daughter]

引用自 Hundinger：

引用自 ^1Ravencap0807：

How about for the Season pass its something like:

INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 1
INCLUDES: The Ancient Gods Part 2
INCLUDES: Battlemode
DOES NOT INCLUDE: DOOM Eternal main campaign

Yes.

You really want things to start listing everything that they don't include?

There's an infinite number of things that aren't included.

[ktulu84]

引用自 Devil Daughter：

引用自 Hundinger：

Yes.

You really want things to start listing everything that they don't include?

There's an infinite number of things that aren't included.

Like what ?

[Devil Daughter]

引用自 SR | BoraY：

引用自 Devil Daughter：

You really want things to start listing everything that they don't include?

There's an infinite number of things that aren't included.

Like what ?

It doesn't include a clue, and you obviously need one.

[space]

引用自 SR | BoraY：

Like what ?

it doesn't include milk, bread, mayonnaise, tomatoes, potatoes, ham, chicken, cheese, fish, eggs, lettuce, salsa, bananas, apples, oranges, mangos, strawberries, blueberries, broccoli, carrots, rice, avocados, ketchup, honey, grapefruit, lemons, kiwis, beef, pork, turkey, hot dogs, sausages, bacon, veal, shrimp, squid, crackers, cookies, bagels, pitas, muffins, coffee, water, juice, wine, beer, pepsi, cola, beans, tuna, crab, pasta, corn, sauce, vinegar, oil, spaghetti, maple syrup, teriyaki, flour, pickels, mustard, jam, peanut butter, toilet paper, paper towels, tissue, aluminum foil, ziplocks, parchment, batteries, soap, bleach, detergent, soy milk, tofu, tzaziki, chips, pretzels, popcorn, raisins, olives, garlic, onions, peppers, mushrooms, cauliflower, celery, butter, oj, etc

[Kunovega]

引用自 SR | BoraY：

引用自 Devil Daughter：

You really want things to start listing everything that they don't include?

There's an infinite number of things that aren't included.

Like what ?

Batteries not included.
Girlfriends not included.

How long a list do you want?

[furbleburble]

引用自 Devil Daughter：

You really want things to start listing everything that they don't include?

There's an infinite number of things that aren't included.

I've bought plenty of expansion packs that include an explicit statement something to the effect of: "This product requires the base game to play. Base game sold separately."

[Dawido]

引用自 Witch ~：

So I bought the game a long time ago. And guess what? Apperently the NORMAL SP Campaign wasnt included in the packs I bought. Literally every game for decades had the normal campaign included just how it's meant to be.

I requested a refund now because I sure as hell wont pay extra for the campaign at full price. Thats just disgusting but expected from Bethesda.

Nice trolling try

[ktulu84]

Im dumb