Is DOOM Eternal harder than DOOM 2016?

[MacoixIT]

My intention is to play this game at the 2nd or 3rd difficulty.
I've finished DOOM 2016 in the past, so there should not be any problem I guess, or it is very harder than 2016?

[ktulu84]

both games have almost same difficulty. but doom eternal is more aggresive and faster than doom 2016 so you might have some trouble at first.

DE is an easy game, game gives you fantastic OP tools to make you stay alive as long as you use these mechanics properly you will not gonna have any problems

for example: chainsaw a lot,dash and double jump,flame belch for armor,grenades,icebomb,glory kills,barrels,meathook,blood punch,weakpoints...

[space]

eternal isn't played like d16 and it's a different kind of game

[AmERICan]

doom eternal is literally just strafe jumping and air dashing around the edge of the arenas killing everything

[Dawido]

Originally posted by MacoixIT:

My intention is to play this game at the 2nd or 3rd difficulty.
I've finished DOOM 2016 in the past, so there should not be any problem I guess, or it is very harder than 2016?

It's easier in my opinion.
I beated Doom Eternal casualty on Ultra-violence, while I was having problems in Doom 2016 on Hurt me plenty

[MacoixIT]

Alright. Thanks for the answer

[MechBFP]

Doom 2016 plays like Doom 2. Doom Eternal plays like Quake 3.

[Yeriho]

To be honest, I find Doom 2016 more difficult on ultra nightmare than Doom Eternal.

Edit: that being said, I found my first run of Doom Eternal a lot more difficult than Doom 2016.

[space]

Originally posted by Yeriho:

To be honest, I find Doom 2016 more difficult on ultra nightmare than Doom Eternal.

just use armor rune and siege for godmode

[Yeriho]

Originally posted by space:

Originally posted by Yeriho:

To be honest, I find Doom 2016 more difficult on ultra nightmare than Doom Eternal.

just use armor rune and siege for godmode

Yeah sure, but the first 3 levels of both games ultra nightmare runs is where the difficulty matters the most.

[space]

Originally posted by Yeriho:

Yeah sure, but the first 3 levels of both games ultra nightmare runs is where the difficulty matters the most.

same for eternal

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[Kyoki]

If we are talking UV - 2016 is easier than Eternal overall - less enemy variety, more OP rune+weapon mod combos, ect.
If we are talking nightmare and UN - I would say that 2016 is actually harder (Atleast in the first half - till you get busted stuff), and a lot harder than eternal if you go for 100% and avoid power-ups/busted runes/superweapons - which i tend to do as i feel like stuff like the BFG, Rich get richer, hologram, ect. Kinda make the game a cake walk.

Originally posted by space:

eternal isn't played like d16 and it's a different kind of game

Eternal and 2016 can indeed be played the same way - air mobility (with mastery), quickswitching, plasma stun-grenade - and you can play it the same way as eternal - you only really lack ways to get into air.

I know this board loves arguing about how the games are different and 2016 is easier... but i can guess that most folk played 2016 abusing every broken combo possible - while playing Eternal without all that cheese. Which is just an unfair comparison.

Seriously - try beating the last level of eternal on Nightmare without Super weapons and power-ups.
Now do the same with the last level of Doom 2016 again - without super weapons or power-ups.

2016 without abusing cheese is actually harder on Nightmare.

In general in Eternal you got so much crowd control - 2 frags, ice, remote detonation, bloodpunch. And you also got Meathook for that air time - which makes a lot of encounters trivial once you master the kit.

2016 has plasma stun bomb. And holograms. That is pretty much it when it comes to crowd control. And it is way less forgiving on NM for the simple reason that you don't have the "Survive one shot that would kill you" mechanic that Eternal has.

It's only runes like: Ammo rune, Rich Get Richer. And BFG spam - that makes 2016 so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy to most people.

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Kyoki:

2016 without abusing cheese is actually harder on Nightmare.

I agree with this actually.

Once you embrace Eternal's loop it becomes much easier and fluid to play than 2016 was.

But I also think Eternal is afar superior game, and I still love 2016.

[tacticalnuke]

Originally posted by space:

eternal isn't played like d16 and it's a different kind of game

Correct:
For the record, beating doom 2016 on Nightmare is pretty easy compared to Doom Eternal.

[UNBREAKABLE]

There's a lot more to learn, and a lot of fights will require focus, but when you're in "the zone" the game is by far easier due to the amount of tools you have.

[Trans Lives Matter <3]

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

There's a lot more to learn, and a lot of fights will require focus, but when you're in "the zone" the game is by far easier due to the amount of tools you have.

I think this is it - the challenge comes in learning the tools, which is intricately tied into perfecting the arenas. I think this is the beauty of having such a well equipped character. Mastering YOURSELF is the prime challenge.

The danger here is that you risk becoming good at it BECAUSE you know the arenas. Which falls apart when you play a new Master Level and suddenly you are presented with different demon placements. However, this presents yet more challenge.