TAG1 sucks, is TAG2 any better?

[Igris]

TAG1 just isn't fun to me, I loved the game and enjoyed but in TAG1 they just throw like 300 enemies at you all at once in some small ass area. First time I started running into ammo problems in this game. Don't get me wrong, I love when game gives a good fun challenge, but this is just neither of those.

Please tell me TAG2 doesn't throw 2 archvilles, few tyrants, a doom hunter, buffed demons and a spirited demon at you all at once, that sh*t just ain't fun honestly.

[~Neon Doom~]

TAG 2 is easier by a long shot if you hate the marauder or Samur your not gonna enjoy the end boss
TAG 2 has the hammer which will make any encounter a breeze

[Igris]

Originally posted by ~Neon Doom~:

TAG 2 is easier by a long shot if you hate the marauder or Samur your not gonna enjoy the end boss
TAG 2 has the hammer which will make any encounter a breeze

I don't hate him but when he is thrown in some small area with like Tyrant demon and 4 mancubus it just isn't fun to play at all

[Gungeon God]

you shouldnt play TAG1 without beating the game at least a couple times, i played it 6 times before going to TAG1 and i still got my ass beaten

not beign an elitist, is just that the porpuse of the game is to be replayed

[GrayHound]

Originally posted by polski8bit:

Originally posted by Grampire:

Basically, Id listened to feedback from players like you when they made TAG2.

TAG2 is a worse product with little replayability because of it. Meanwhile TAG1 is still enjoyable to replay and will be even moreso when the nerfs are reverted, hopefully soon.

Which is a good thing. I think they've shot themselves in the foot, directly continuing the story from the base campaign. Because most of the people would love to see and play through the whole story. And it kind of blocks people out of it if they didn't learn the game like the "black belts" (like Hugo likes to call them), and arguably it's not enjoyable for "casuals" because of that.

I'm ♥♥♥♥ at the game and I find Nightmare pretty easy, if tedious sometimes.
If you get hit, you start running and bunny hopping with either heavy cannon or plasma rifle before you find a 1-2 fodders that you can hit, flame and glory kill. Rinse and repeat.

If you move around, nothing, nothing can hit out outside of a few specific encounters, like the two tyrants in a narrow corridor.

I'm a casual and the things some people do here look like magic to me but Nightmare is just "mash space and random direction to not get hit while glory killing and spamming guided rockets, chaingun shield and flaming hook to survive".

Some encounters and slayer gates especially take a while to do this way, since you make mistakes and spend 50% of the time running away and healing, but it just takes concentration, not skill.

[UnKn0wN]

both dlcs sucks, low effort and lazy production.
tag2 however is really really bad.

[Penis Parker]

If you want an easier time TAG 2 will provide it. Significantly easier than TAG 1 and even the late OG campaign levels. Try beating TAG 2 and then 1, you'll notice you'll git gud and start enjoying both of them more.

[UnKn0wN]

Originally posted by Tenenbaum:

If you want an easier time TAG 2 will provide it. Significantly easier than TAG 1 and even the late OG campaign levels. Try beating TAG 2 and then 1, you'll notice you'll git gud and start enjoying both of them more.

maybe but the end of tag2 is really really bad like abysmal bad.

[Penis Parker]

Originally posted by UnKn0wN:

Originally posted by Tenenbaum:

If you want an easier time TAG 2 will provide it. Significantly easier than TAG 1 and even the late OG campaign levels. Try beating TAG 2 and then 1, you'll notice you'll git gud and start enjoying both of them more.

maybe but the end of tag2 is really really bad like abysmal bad.

Maybe you're abysmal bad at this game

[UnKn0wN]

Originally posted by Tenenbaum:

Originally posted by UnKn0wN:

maybe but the end of tag2 is really really bad like abysmal bad.

Maybe you're abysmal bad at this game

you really liked the "dark" lord lol

[luh m]

Originally posted by UnKn0wN:

Originally posted by Tenenbaum:

Maybe you're abysmal bad at this game

you really liked the "dark" lord lol

for someone who doesn't shut up about how we don't respect others' opinions, this is quite a revelation.

[UnKn0wN]

Originally posted by Dababy:

Originally posted by UnKn0wN:

you really liked the "dark" lord lol

for someone who doesn't shut up about how we don't respect others' opinions, this is quite a revelation.

you gotta admit dark lord was quite cringy.
I don´t even talk about the fight mechanics, just how he shows up and how he looks.
I haven´t even played it, just watched a bit on yt, can´t be bothered to play such crap really...
quite poor ending IMO.
it´s okay if you liked it though.

[luh m]

Originally posted by UnKn0wN:

Originally posted by Dababy:

for someone who doesn't shut up about how we don't respect others' opinions, this is quite a revelation.

you gotta admit dark lord was quite cringy.
I don´t even talk about the fight mechanics, just how he shows up and how he looks.
I haven´t even played it, just watched a bit on yt, can´t be bothered to play such crap really...
quite poor ending IMO.
it´s okay if you liked it though.

i think he looks hella sick but okay

[[RKB]Il Saggio]

Originally posted by Dragon of Dojima:

Originally posted by Steel:

Drop your difficulty level?

Hardly any difference really. Difficulty is not really a problem, just having 40 demons in your face is annoying and unenjoyable.

For most of us it is actually fun and enjoyable. Don't tell me having the same 40 (which is mostly max 20 at the same time anyway, but in total yeah, there can be over 50 at lengthy battles) on different difficulty levels is the same. Try Ultra-Violence and it will be a blast. There would be no sense of achievement if they just dropped 2 Hell Knights and a Cacodemon at most encounters, with only one occasional Super Heavy at bigger battles while you are fully upgraded.

To answer your question, TAG2 is easier, or, how to phrase it, has more diversity in pace. There are occasional difficulty spikes, like double Marauder battle with Screechers, but easier and harder battles vary, not every battle is so straight in your face, like in TAG1. But seriously. Take this in-game tip into consideration: "but more demons because it is a DLC". Unlike base game, DLCs tend to be aimed to the fans of the game instead of a random target group. And fans will have expectations, they will soon get bored on underpopulated and boring maps.

[Wehzy]

Originally posted by Dragon of Dojima:

Originally posted by Steel:

Drop your difficulty level?

Hardly any difference really. Difficulty is not really a problem, just having 40 demons in your face is annoying and unenjoyable.

better 40 demons than 4. If you have a hard time, lower the difficulty. More demons = more fun = more gameplay.

Just spawn kill them as soon as they spawn.

[Igris]

Originally posted by ᴡ ᴇ ʜ ᴢ ʏ 'ꜰᴛᴘ:

Originally posted by Dragon of Dojima:

Hardly any difference really. Difficulty is not really a problem, just having 40 demons in your face is annoying and unenjoyable.

better 40 demons than 4. If you have a hard time, lower the difficulty. More demons = more fun = more gameplay.

Just spawn kill them as soon as they spawn.

This dlc managed to suck all of the fun out of this game, forcing you to use specific weapons now to kill certain demons is just a bs mechanic.