Air Mobility Rune should be built in to doomguy's kit

[fushigi friend]

There is absalutely zero reason to ever not use this rune. Without it, the air is a horrible place to be. I tried playing battlemode today, but I could not do anything because of my lack of air mobility. Every time I got myself in the air, I lost basically all control of my character's movement. The demons ate me for breakfast. It feels bad only having one rune to play with, since the other two are always air mobility and equipment fiend

[brimstone]

there's a mod that make it enabled at all times.

https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/202

[UNBREAKABLE]

I mean personally I agree, but plenty of people can play just fine without it, so it isn't something universally agreed on.

[Grampire]

Probably one of the more interesting debates regarding this game's mechanics. Theres good arguments for both sides, but at the end of the day I think it's best staying as a rune.

[The Chessotron]

No, it shouldn't. Works fine as a rune.

[Primal Pain]

it's better as a rune. I personally prefer to play without it.

[Lexi]

i only used it in for 1 campaign, didnt like it am not using it ever since then.
Might try it again tho in TAG, could be interesting.

[Trickster]

ask about this in Hugo's stream, see what he says

[Yeriho]

I use none of the runes you mentioned, so No. It is better to stay as a rune.

[GrayHound]

I do use it but I don't think it makes that much of a difference. You shouldn't be floating around like a dandelion seed anyway.

[The Chocobo Racer]

Just get used to playing without Air Mobility, Air Mobility basically opens up more options when you're fighting in-air (and also allows you to keep up momentum and accelerate faster), but you can still use SSG and the ballista to considerable effect when you're in the air. IMO, they kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the runes up on this game. The BP health drops gives you less than the ambient ice health drops suit upgrade does, Seek and Destroy can be compensated by pulling out your ssg, and you can get your favorite rune on the second level. *shrug* It is what it is

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Kurumi w/ Crucible:

Just get used to playing without Air Mobility, Air Mobility basically opens up more options when you're fighting in-air (and also allows you to keep up momentum and accelerate faster), but you can still use SSG and the ballista to considerable effect when you're in the air. IMO, they kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the runes up on this game. The BP health drops gives you less than the ambient ice health drops suit upgrade does, Seek and Destroy can be compensated by pulling out your ssg, and you can get your favorite rune on the second level. *shrug* It is what it is

Yeah, I think they should honestly think a bit more about it next patch. The game does just feel so much better with Air Mobility on - the rest of the runes are so much more dependent on playstyle. But AC is almost always a solid choice regardless and I just love playing with it.

Will be interesting to see what Id does. Could go either way but I feel like they'll keep it as-is. A suit upgrade wouldn't be horrible though - it's a nice idea.

[The Chocobo Racer]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Originally posted by Kurumi w/ Crucible:

Just get used to playing without Air Mobility, Air Mobility basically opens up more options when you're fighting in-air (and also allows you to keep up momentum and accelerate faster), but you can still use SSG and the ballista to considerable effect when you're in the air. IMO, they kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the runes up on this game. The BP health drops gives you less than the ambient ice health drops suit upgrade does, Seek and Destroy can be compensated by pulling out your ssg, and you can get your favorite rune on the second level. *shrug* It is what it is

Yeah, I think they should honestly think a bit more about it next patch. The game does just feel so much better with Air Mobility on - the rest of the runes are so much more dependent on playstyle. But AC is almost always a solid choice regardless and I just love playing with it.

Will be interesting to see what Id does. Could go either way but I feel like they'll keep it as-is. A suit upgrade wouldn't be horrible though - it's a nice idea.

A complete 180 on opinion? Or were you arguing for the opposition as an exercise? Cuz I feel like there is a meaningful compromise to be made, but maybe for the next game

[The Chocobo Racer]

Or perhaps they could make runes cumulative and follow a progression style similar to 2016's?

[Grampire]

Originally posted by Kurumi w/ Crucible:

Originally posted by Grampire:

Yeah, I think they should honestly think a bit more about it next patch. The game does just feel so much better with Air Mobility on - the rest of the runes are so much more dependent on playstyle. But AC is almost always a solid choice regardless and I just love playing with it.

Will be interesting to see what Id does. Could go either way but I feel like they'll keep it as-is. A suit upgrade wouldn't be horrible though - it's a nice idea.

A complete 180 on opinion? Or were you arguing for the opposition as an exercise? Cuz I feel like there is a meaningful compromise to be made, but maybe for the next game

I was mostly playing devils advocate before; as I've said I've made threads including this same topic because I am an AC believer and use it almost all the time lol.

But I think a lot of the community that doesnt is fine, and their points in my experience are valid. So if it stays a rune, its perfectly fine. But if it doesnt that could also have some cool implications.

[~Neon Doom~]

Originally posted by the flood:

There is absalutely zero reason to ever not use this rune. Without it, the air is a horrible place to be. I tried playing battlemode today, but I could not do anything because of my lack of air mobility. Every time I got myself in the air, I lost basically all control of my character's movement. The demons ate me for breakfast. It feels bad only having one rune to play with, since the other two are always air mobility and equipment fiend

for god sakes im sick of these threads

NO! it should be an option not forced onto a player i don't use the ♥♥♥♥ rune never have and never will you like it GREAT then use it ...

not force me to play a specific way i love doom eternal for its freedom of how to go about things (sarcasm included)



Some people love the rune that's great then use it but this should not be implemented as a passive ability without taking up a rune slot ... just stop with this bs