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Lit_red Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:40pm
Of glory kills and useless runes
So, this is something i've been wondering about for a while: Glory kills make you invincible for the duration, right? That's definitely how it was in 2016, and it feels like that's the case here too. But then, what is the point of the rune that makes them faster? Surely, if you can't be hurt while doing them, you don't care how long it takes. I get why speedrunners would use it, but it seems 100% useless for a normal playthrough. Unless i'm missing something, that is
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space Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:41pm 
to finish the kill faster as time doesn't stop and more enemies can spawn. it helps to prevent from being overwhelmed.
>< V >< Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:58pm 
I consider glory kills themselves, almost useless. Rarely do I consider the health from a glory kill worth the horrible positioning it puts you in.
Grampire Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:58pm 
What serious said, and also a few other considerations, such as it's easier to cash out armor from a meathook since you have about 1.5 seconds to do so.

Originally posted by >< V ><:
I consider glory kills themselves, almost useless. Rarely do I consider the health from a glory kill worth the horrible positioning it puts you in.

Generally this is true too, since the longer you're in a glory kill the more demons can swarm you when you finish the animation. GK's are risky and the faster you're out the better.
Last edited by Grampire; Feb 5, 2021 @ 5:00pm
UNBREAKABLE Feb 5, 2021 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by Grampire:
What serious said, and also a few other considerations, such as it's easier to cash out armor from a meathook since you have about 1.5 seconds to do so.
Yup, savagery rune is how you make most glory kills consistently give you armor from meathook.

Savagery in general is pretty useful since it's effectively faster healing and enemies don't have as much time to position in your face. Combine it with blood fueled and you can basically always move fast.
Last edited by UNBREAKABLE; Feb 7, 2021 @ 11:20am
Kraehe Feb 6, 2021 @ 9:41am 
All of the things said here are true, except the meathook flame kill. As long as you start the glory kill animation while the thing is on fire it doesn´t matter how long the animation takes. The fire doesn´t extinguish during the animation so you´ll always get the full armor payout.
So for that the savagery rune is irrelevant.
I personally don´t use it because I like the little breather I get by doing glory kills to just check my equipment cooldowns real quick.
And I try to not take glory kills that would put me in too risky of a situation. Also, you can basicly instantly pull up the chaingun shield when you get out of the animation to save your ass.
Grampire Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by Kraehe:
All of the things said here are true, except the meathook flame kill. As long as you start the glory kill animation while the thing is on fire it doesn´t matter how long the animation takes. The fire doesn´t extinguish during the animation so you´ll always get the full armor payout.
So for that the savagery rune is irrelevant.
I personally don´t use it because I like the little breather I get by doing glory kills to just check my equipment cooldowns real quick.
And I try to not take glory kills that would put me in too risky of a situation. Also, you can basicly instantly pull up the chaingun shield when you get out of the animation to save your ass.

Only partly true. Savagery isn't "required" to get armor from meathook GK's, it just makes it more consistent in more situations.

Starting the GK while the mob is on fire doesnt seem to matter.

https://youtu.be/zbm6SBvJBg8
Last edited by Grampire; Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:18am
RageOfPerun Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:30am 
I feel like you should be Invincible for 1sec after a glory kill (or at least make a rune for it)
Grampire Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by RageOfPerun:
I feel like you should be Invincible for 1sec after a glory kill (or at least make a rune for it)

Then you could chain fodder GK's and fight for 1 second in between.

Would be hilariously broken.
RageOfPerun Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Grampire:
Originally posted by RageOfPerun:
I feel like you should be Invincible for 1sec after a glory kill (or at least make a rune for it)

Then you could chain fodder GK's and fight for 1 second in between.

Would be hilariously broken.

It would still take a lot of skill to pull that off, maybe make it 0.5sec then.. at least enough for a dash
Last edited by RageOfPerun; Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:35am
Grampire Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by RageOfPerun:
Originally posted by Grampire:

Then you could chain fodder GK's and fight for 1 second in between.

Would be hilariously broken.

It would still take a lot of skill to pull that off, maybe make it 0.5sec then.. at least enough for a dash

Just pull out chaingun and use personal shield. Basically same thing.
Last edited by Grampire; Feb 6, 2021 @ 11:45am
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