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Female slayer possible
https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.gamesradar.com/amp/doom-eternal-game-director-put-a-lot-of-thought-into-a-female-doom-slayer/
So if hugo martin thinks about that possibility it will probably happen with the next game.Would also be nice if we could pick between different faces as well like in a rpg.What are your thoughts?
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https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.gamesradar.com/amp/doom-eternal-game-director-put-a-lot-of-thought-into-a-female-doom-slayer/
So if hugo martin thinks about that possibility it will probably happen with the next game.Would also be nice if we could pick between different faces as well like in a rpg.What are your thoughts?
Doom isn't a RPG per say. The last games have RPG elements in its gameplay loops (emphasis in the gameplay loops, not the core gameplay loops, that distinguishes Doom as an action first person shooter).

Also, Doomguy is male since the beginning. He had male hands, male voice, etc. Asking to change it/adding a Doomgirl doesn't make sense. Its like to ask to replace the James Bond character by a chick (oh, wait).

I respect the women very much, but I'm against the political agenda that the feminism movement forces through our throats.

If this is the mainstream now, I want a male Tom Raider (oh wait, we have Uncharted), a tribal hunter in Horizon Zero Dawn and a Catman in the Batman series...
If I was to play as Jonah in different exploration and puzzles than Lara, why not?

Resident Evil do it with different or slightly different scenarios and traits for different characters since the beginning, it is not needed a Tom Raider ... and btw Uncharted is far from being a Tomb Raider game by its gameplay, just happen TR 2013 copied Uncharted and also is not a Tomb Raider game by its gameplay.

Quake Champions introduce different characters with different traits and gameplay, some of these being female and Quake 3 Arena also had Crash, dressing the same armor as Doomguy and the other bots at Q3A "references her in chat such as "Doom Girl", "Doom Lady", "Doomette" and "Shiny-Butt", that first three of which reference her as a female version of Doomguy".

Also, again, a different Slayer, not a different Doomguy or a female Doomguy, Slayer is a title and can be applied to male and female, human or non-human.
If they actually introduce new ways of playing with different characters, maybe even with slightly different scenarios to be played, it could all be good.
Select your Slayer and kill demons your own way on its own individual (or slightly different) scenario.
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Big Nutz 8/abr./2021 às 7:27 
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If you have a female warrior why not have a new franchise. There's no need to hijack Doom.
Exactly.
Vangerdahast 8/abr./2021 às 7:27 
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In the last 1 1/2 decades? Yes, it is.
Again, thats a logical fallacy. You're pointing out that due to the way times have changed, an otherwise normal action such as adding gameplay changes based on the physical attributed of a character you're playing as in a videogame now becomes part of an agenda, despite the fact that was and still is widely considered to be a logical addition. https://youtu.be/tfp34-ruvGE Here's an informative video to help you spot your illogical rationalization
Gamers who are active progressists pushed their agenda in the game industry since middle 2000's. Denying is like to block the sun with a sieve.

And please, enlight us. Show us some stupendous game mechanics that a FEMALE CHARACTER would introduce to this game that isn't present right now. Tell us how female traits would change the game for better.

I'm waiting. I guess you're working at iD Software right now.

Illogical rationalization? Just because I'm against the addition and I'm saying that progressist ideas were being pushed/inserted in the game industry in the last decades?

This is a typical from people who want to make the people who don't agree with progressivism to shut up. Questioning people intelligence just because they don't agree with your ideas is typical of a douche.
Última edição por Vangerdahast; 8/abr./2021 às 7:31
Escrito originalmente por CzechKronner:
If you have a female warrior why not have a new franchise. There's no need to hijack Doom.
Ok, but you realize the original character got put in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crypt again, and they're planning on telling different stories within the franchise, right? But I guess the main character needs to be a white dude with brown hair and all the exact same physical attributes as the main character, just because "hurr durr otherwise its an agenda". Personally, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ what traits the next character has, all I'm saying is it would be cool if it was a female, as that may introduce some new dynamics to the gameplay
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Escrito originalmente por CzechKronner:
If you have a female warrior why not have a new franchise. There's no need to hijack Doom.
Ok, but you realize the original character got put in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crypt again, and they're planning on telling different stories within the franchise, right? But I guess the main character needs to be a white dude with brown hair and all the exact same physical attributes as the main character, just because "hurr durr otherwise its an agenda". Personally, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ what traits the next character has, all I'm saying is it would be cool if it was a female, as that may introduce some new dynamics to the gameplay
Some people think way too much about this characters.It’s just an avatar of the player which kills demons and that’s it....as long this stays the same i don’t see a problem with additional stuff....just picking between two character models at the start maybe pick a face as well and you are good to go
Última edição por Mr Jt (Gog is king); 8/abr./2021 às 8:05
margalus 8/abr./2021 às 7:33 
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And? It doesn't matter if my comment is "cringe" or not. Also, is easy to judge and call comments cringe when they go against your thoughts, right?
You are talking about replacing nobody said doomguy should be replaced
Bigots don't care. Their faux outrage is all that matters
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Again, thats a logical fallacy. You're pointing out that due to the way times have changed, an otherwise normal action such as adding gameplay changes based on the physical attributed of a character you're playing as in a videogame now becomes part of an agenda, despite the fact that was and still is widely considered to be a logical addition. https://youtu.be/tfp34-ruvGE Here's an informative video to help you spot your illogical rationalization
Gamers who are active progressists pushed their agenda in the game industry since middle 2000's. Denying is like to block the sun with a sieve.

And please, enlight us. Show us some stupendous game mechanics that a FEMALE CHARACTER would introduce to this game that isn't present right now. Tell us how female traits would change the game for better.

I'm waiting.

Illogical rationalization? Just because I'm against the addition and I'm saying that progressist ideas were being pushed/inserted in the game industry in the last decades?

This is a typical from people who want to make the people who don't agree with progressivism to shut up.

fit females tend to be more flexible, physically weaker than peak males, but more gymnastically capable as a result of their traits. Using this, we could have a slayer who is more dexterous, more acrobatic, but also more of a glass cannon than a male slayer. This could introduce some options as you could go with a tankier, stronger slayer, or a faster, lighter one instead. They may have other traits based on origin and backstory as well. Hardly a "progressive" desire. Females are humans, black people are humans, gays are humans, etc. etc. they can be characters in a videogame without being labeled as "part of an agenda" lol. I dont hear you whining that there aren't any black people in DE, and you don't hear me complaining about it either, because it WASN'T a part of some aryan agenda. You are just sensitive about this because you don't want a woman to be a strong character in the franchise. It makes no big difference either way
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You are talking about replacing nobody said doomguy should be replaced
Bigots don't care. Their faux outrage is all that matters
its funny how people get so upset when a woman is mentioned, but its completely normal that a white male is playable. Yeah, I get it right, but does the color of their skin or whether they have a penis or not really matter? I'm not advocating for the story to be about girl power or something lmao
and also, I never said I wasn't a douche. I am. But I like to be critical of my position on things as well as others too. People are way too quick to get on board with a group of people because of pandering or bias, and I enjoy exposing that. Everytime I post something on here, I look at it, think about what I said, and come to terms if its real, or based solely on my emotions. This is not.

Again, I'm not advocating for my little pony, but lets say a girl watches her parents get slaughtered in front of her by imps due to the events of DE, and grows up training to tear apart as many of them as she could. That would be metal, and depending on how it's handled, could be a great story as well. Grow a pair
Vangerdahast 8/abr./2021 às 7:43 
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Gamers who are active progressists pushed their agenda in the game industry since middle 2000's. Denying is like to block the sun with a sieve.

And please, enlight us. Show us some stupendous game mechanics that a FEMALE CHARACTER would introduce to this game that isn't present right now. Tell us how female traits would change the game for better.

I'm waiting.

Illogical rationalization? Just because I'm against the addition and I'm saying that progressist ideas were being pushed/inserted in the game industry in the last decades?

This is a typical from people who want to make the people who don't agree with progressivism to shut up.

fit females tend to be more flexible, physically weaker than peak males, but more gymnastically capable as a result of their traits. Using this, we could have a slayer who is more dexterous, more acrobatic, but also more of a glass cannon than a male slayer. This could introduce some options as you could go with a tankier, stronger slayer, or a faster, lighter one instead. They may have other traits based on origin and backstory as well. Hardly a "progressive" desire. Females are humans, black people are humans, gays are humans, etc. etc. they can be characters in a videogame without being labeled as "part of an agenda" lol. I dont hear you whining that there aren't any black people in DE, and you don't hear me complaining about it either, because it WASN'T a part of some aryan agenda. You are just sensitive about this because you don't want a woman to be a strong character in the franchise. It makes no big difference either way
No, I'm not. I just don't want to see another James Bond case. If this is your wish, I want males on any other media where females were protagonists. Period.

And also, you just described some female traits, but didn't say any PRACTICAL game mechanic examples around them that would change the game for better. Show us they will work.

But still, you questioned the intelligence of those who don't agree, me included. And you're still trying to convince us. Won't work, at least with me.

I'm still waiting.

If you don't have/can't list them, probably you're one of those who don't agree with current status quo but can't elaborate better solutions beyond the distribute countries treasures between the poor and minority, because they were/are oppressed.
Última edição por Vangerdahast; 8/abr./2021 às 7:50
458 ja7g00zgh zs-fhw3h-]amfog-uw (Banido(a)) 8/abr./2021 às 7:44 
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Escrito originalmente por Jt:
https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.gamesradar.com/amp/doom-eternal-game-director-put-a-lot-of-thought-into-a-female-doom-slayer/
So if hugo martin thinks about that possibility it will probably happen with the next game.Would also be nice if we could pick between different faces as well like in a rpg.What are your thoughts?
Doom isn't a RPG per say. The last games have RPG elements in its gameplay loops (emphasis in the gameplay loops, not the core gameplay loops, that distinguishes Doom as an action first person shooter).

Also, Doomguy is male since the beginning. He had male hands, male voice, etc. Asking to change it/adding a Doomgirl doesn't make sense. Its like to ask to replace the James Bond character by a chick (oh, wait).

I respect the women very much, but I'm against the political agenda that the feminism movement forces through our throats.

If this is the mainstream now, I want a male Tom Raider (oh wait, we have Uncharted), a tribal hunter in Horizon Zero Dawn and a Catman in the Batman series...
too bad we're gonna get doomgal in the future then
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You are talking about replacing nobody said doomguy should be replaced
Bigots don't care. Their faux outrage is all that matters
Wolfenstein is that way buddy boy. you'll get all the "diversity" you can handle there.
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fit females tend to be more flexible, physically weaker than peak males, but more gymnastically capable as a result of their traits. Using this, we could have a slayer who is more dexterous, more acrobatic, but also more of a glass cannon than a male slayer. This could introduce some options as you could go with a tankier, stronger slayer, or a faster, lighter one instead. They may have other traits based on origin and backstory as well. Hardly a "progressive" desire. Females are humans, black people are humans, gays are humans, etc. etc. they can be characters in a videogame without being labeled as "part of an agenda" lol. I dont hear you whining that there aren't any black people in DE, and you don't hear me complaining about it either, because it WASN'T a part of some aryan agenda. You are just sensitive about this because you don't want a woman to be a strong character in the franchise. It makes no big difference either way
No, I'm not. I just don't want to see another James Bond case. If this is your wish, I want males on any other media where females were protagonists. Period.

And also, you just described some female traits, but didn't say any practical game mechanics examples around them that would change the game for better. But you questioned the intelligence of those who don't agree, me included.

I'm still waiting.

If you don't have/can't list them, probably you're one of those who don't agree with current status quo but can't elaborate better solutions beyond the distribute countries treasures between the poor and minority, because they were/are oppressed.
Do you not understand the terms "dexterous" or "acrobatic"? Dexterous means they are skilled with their hands, which in Doom translates to a slightly faster quickswap speed and clamber ability, and in case you haven't played the game, the arenas are more heavily focused around movement including bars and a dash based movement mechanic. As well, DE featured enemy moves that could stagger your player. I mean, do I really need to break down for you individually how each mechanic could be changed to offer benefits and downsides depending on the character? I prefer arguing with humans, not primates
Última edição por The Chocobo Racer; 8/abr./2021 às 7:54
It’s pretty hard for people to stay constructive without the use of insults if you have different viewpoints these days....
Vangerdahast 8/abr./2021 às 7:57 
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No, I'm not. I just don't want to see another James Bond case. If this is your wish, I want males on any other media where females were protagonists. Period.

And also, you just described some female traits, but didn't say any practical game mechanics examples around them that would change the game for better. But you questioned the intelligence of those who don't agree, me included.

I'm still waiting.

If you don't have/can't list them, probably you're one of those who don't agree with current status quo but can't elaborate better solutions beyond the distribute countries treasures between the poor and minority, because they were/are oppressed.
Do you not understand the terms "dexterous" or "acrobatic"? Dexterous means they are skilled with their hands, which in Doom translates to a slightly faster quickswap speed and clamber ability, and in case you haven't played the game, the arenas are more heavily focused around movement including bars and a dash based movement mechanic. As well, DE featured enemy moves that could stagger your player. I mean, do I really need to break down for you individually how each could be changed to offer benefits and downsides depending on the character? I prefer arguing with humans, not primates
Have you ever seem the Olympics? Men aren't acrobatic and dexterous? Whatta ♥♥♥♥?

Also, show us some proof, with practical game mechanics, that a female character, with her traits, would be faster and better in the arenas than a male Slayer. You can prove it with some prototype made with paper, this is how most of game developers start their prototype. You don't have to post it here today, take the time you want to prove your point.

But until that, you're a person who likes to call people who don't agree with your ideas dumb.

Última edição por Vangerdahast; 8/abr./2021 às 7:57
458 ja7g00zgh zs-fhw3h-]amfog-uw (Banido(a)) 8/abr./2021 às 7:57 
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Escrito originalmente por Vangerdahast:
No, I'm not. I just don't want to see another James Bond case. If this is your wish, I want males on any other media where females were protagonists. Period.

And also, you just described some female traits, but didn't say any practical game mechanics examples around them that would change the game for better. But you questioned the intelligence of those who don't agree, me included.

I'm still waiting.

If you don't have/can't list them, probably you're one of those who don't agree with current status quo but can't elaborate better solutions beyond the distribute countries treasures between the poor and minority, because they were/are oppressed.
Do you not understand the terms "dexterous" or "acrobatic"? Dexterous means they are skilled with their hands, which in Doom translates to a slightly faster quickswap speed and clamber ability, and in case you haven't played the game, the arenas are more heavily focused around movement including bars and a dash based movement mechanic. As well, DE featured enemy moves that could stagger your player. I mean, do I really need to break down for you individually how each mechanic could be changed to offer benefits and downsides depending on the character? I prefer arguing with humans, not primates
chances are he's trolling u super hard better to not bother
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