A closer look at raytracing n Doom.

[V I D A L]

For the denials who keep saying it's pointless just to help make them feel like they are not missing out on anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ5ZyVYlq5A

[makew_3410]

Originally posted by space:

Originally posted by makew_3410:

MFW EVERYONE HAS A ONE MILLION HZ MONITOR FROM YEAR 2077 WHILE IM STUCK WITH MY 59 HZ FROM 2011

don't worry it doesn't make a difference anyway.

xd

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by space:

don't worry it doesn't make a difference anyway.

Insert dank "640k is enough for anyone" meme here.

gg

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Originally posted by space:

don't worry it doesn't make a difference anyway.

120hz makes a huge difference.

my phone has a 120 hz screen and the difference is pretty noticeable. so much in fact that im pretty sure i cant go back to 60 hz unless i'd be held at gun point. however the feel doesnt transfer to my monitor so ggwp

[keikei]

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Doom Eternal is another example that demonstrates how Ray Tracing still isn`t ready for games. I`ve got a rtx 2080 and the game is unplayable with ray tracing turned on. And even then the improvement was barely noticeable. So I can now see Doom Guys reflection in mirrors and windows? I think I`ll be able to live without that. Not worth the massive decrease in frame rate. Game`s better with it turned off. For now ray tracing is still in the tech demo phase.

Why are you not using DLSS?

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Doom Eternal is another example that demonstrates how Ray Tracing still isn`t ready for games. I`ve got a rtx 2080 and the game is unplayable with ray tracing turned on. And even then the improvement was barely noticeable. So I can now see Doom Guys reflection in mirrors and windows? I think I`ll be able to live without that. Not worth the massive decrease in frame rate. Game`s better with it turned off. For now ray tracing is still in the tech demo phase.

I've got a 2080Ti which, while definitely more powerful, still shouldn't be unplayably low.

I get 100ish with RT and DLSS at 4k. If I remember right, you're running at lower res, so you should get very playable results. May just need to tweak some settings.

[King Whiffer]

I'm able to get 100+ fps with dlss set to performance on an rtx 2060 fe. I'm on ultra settings save the texture pool, dropped that to high. What a damn gorgeous game. Mind you I'm running at 1080p. I'll try 1440p later. I've also not tried hdr again. Is it fixed yet?

[David20Player]

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Doom Eternal is another example that demonstrates how Ray Tracing still isn`t ready for games. I`ve got a rtx 2080 and the game is unplayable with ray tracing turned on. And even then the improvement was barely noticeable. So I can now see Doom Guys reflection in mirrors and windows? I think I`ll be able to live without that. Not worth the massive decrease in frame rate. Game`s better with it turned off. For now ray tracing is still in the tech demo phase.

If you are using DLSS then no one should be complaining about losing too many frames per second. Sure you will lose a lot of fps with ray tracing but with DLSS turned on you will gain most of that fps back with improved image quality. I know because I have an RTX 2060 Super at 1080P with maxed out settings and it runs nice and smooth all the time with ray tracing turned on. Turn DLSS on buddy and enjoy the increased frame rate. With an nVidia RTX graphics card, there is no reason Not to use DLSS with version 2.0 and later.

[Just Aaron]

Originally posted by David20Player:

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Doom Eternal is another example that demonstrates how Ray Tracing still isn`t ready for games. I`ve got a rtx 2080 and the game is unplayable with ray tracing turned on. And even then the improvement was barely noticeable. So I can now see Doom Guys reflection in mirrors and windows? I think I`ll be able to live without that. Not worth the massive decrease in frame rate. Game`s better with it turned off. For now ray tracing is still in the tech demo phase.

If you are using DLSS then no one should be complaining about losing too many frames per second. Sure you will lose a lot of fps with ray tracing but with DLSS turned on you will gain most of that fps back with improved image quality. I know because I have an RTX 2060 Super at 1080P with maxed out settings and it runs nice and smooth all the time with ray tracing turned on. Turn DLSS on buddy and enjoy the increased frame rate. With an nVidia RTX graphics card, there is no reason Not to use DLSS with version 2.0 and later.

Really? 1080p, max settings, with Ray Tracing on you still got a consistent 60 fps with an RTX 2060 Super? Ok, in that case I`ll have to try it again and see if I get better results. I already tried it with DLSS on but maybe it`s one of those things where I have to restart the game a few times and then play it for an hour and it eventually fixes itself.

[King Whiffer]

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Originally posted by David20Player:

If you are using DLSS then no one should be complaining about losing too many frames per second. Sure you will lose a lot of fps with ray tracing but with DLSS turned on you will gain most of that fps back with improved image quality. I know because I have an RTX 2060 Super at 1080P with maxed out settings and it runs nice and smooth all the time with ray tracing turned on. Turn DLSS on buddy and enjoy the increased frame rate. With an nVidia RTX graphics card, there is no reason Not to use DLSS with version 2.0 and later.

Really? 1080p, max settings, with Ray Tracing on you still got a consistent 60 fps with an RTX 2060 Super? Ok, in that case I`ll have to try it again and see if I get better results. I already tried it with DLSS on but maybe it`s one of those things where I have to restart the game a few times and then play it for an hour and it eventually fixes itself.

Can confirm set your settings and restart DOES indeed level out the FPS. You can most certainly attain greater than 60fps with a 2060 Super with DLSS on performance and RT on Ultra. I have the inferior card and I get 100+fps on Ultra graphic settings and RT on ultra. I would suggest setting your Texture Pool to High but leave all other settings to ultra and you'll be good to go. What's your processor and RAM situation?

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Doom Eternal is another example that demonstrates how Ray Tracing still isn`t ready for games. I`ve got a rtx 2080 and the game is unplayable with ray tracing turned on. And even then the improvement was barely noticeable. So I can now see Doom Guys reflection in mirrors and windows? I think I`ll be able to live without that. Not worth the massive decrease in frame rate. Game`s better with it turned off. For now ray tracing is still in the tech demo phase.

Something is wrong on your end. Raytracing has very low impact in this game,. With a 2080 you should still be getting 100fps with ray tracing on.

[sargonuspa]

Originally posted by Just Aaron:

Doom Eternal is another example that demonstrates how Ray Tracing still isn`t ready for games. I`ve got a rtx 2080 and the game is unplayable with ray tracing turned on. And even then the improvement was barely noticeable. So I can now see Doom Guys reflection in mirrors and windows? I think I`ll be able to live without that. Not worth the massive decrease in frame rate. Game`s better with it turned off. For now ray tracing is still in the tech demo phase.

Something might be up on your end. I had a 2070 Super with raytracing enabled @ Ultra Nightmare on all but texture pool (Ultra) running at 4k with quality DLSS and I do not remember it dipping bellow 60fps.

[David20Player]

I have my DLSS set to Quality and my fps barely dips below 100 fps. Most of the time it's around 120-150 fps. Ultra Nightmare preset even...I always use the latest nVidia drivers and also use DDU which I'm not sure if that makes much of a difference. I'm currently using nVidia driver 471.11. And yes Ray Tracing is on and it looks beautiful.

[Piano man]

Originally posted by space:

Originally posted by Piano man:

Unbreakable is right, Space is wrong. I had a 60 fps monitor and was running doom before I purchased my Samsung CRG9 at 120hz...

It is just far more responsive and beautiful to behold. I ran Doom at 120fps MINIMUM and the difference is incredible.

Hell, even Desktop felt more responsive.

yah

placebo

No... actually it isn't - you're either too ignorant or stupid to see the difference. The difference between 30fps and 60fps is substantial. The difference between 60fps and 120fps is definitely noticeable...

As for 120fps and 240fps? Never seen a monitor or a game run at those framers, so wouldn't know - but if you can't see a difference at 120fps - you need your bloody eyes checked.

[space]

lol, sorry i'm not here to validate your perceived differences between refresh rates but at least i'm not calling people stupid for not sharing my opinion.

[AtronoxAndy]

Originally posted by space:

lol, sorry i'm not here to validate your perceived differences between refresh rates but at least i'm not calling people stupid for not sharing my opinion.

If it was placebo then no one would be able to detect the difference and tell you which refresh rate is currently active in a blind test. Yet every blind test has shown people can, very easily.

[Disrupt]

In the vid, i found the texture pool size segment pretty interesting. Anybody else experimented with the texture pool setting?

In regard to DLSS, i think it legitimately makes the game look worse, and potentially adds edge artifacts. I could be imagining this, but DLSS off looks less washed out along the edges.

[King Whiffer]

Originally posted by Disrupt:

In the vid, i found the texture pool size segment pretty interesting. Anybody else experimented with the texture pool setting?

In regard to DLSS, i think it legitimately makes the game look worse, and potentially adds edge artifacts. I could be imagining this, but DLSS off looks less washed out along the edges.

Thanks for staying on point. I initially had it on Ultra but due to that DF video, I dropped it down to High and it still looks great and runs even better. I need to try 1440p now since I get 100+ at 1080p.