So what did y'all think of the dlc's story?

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Honestly, in my opinion mediocore, this idea clearly needed more time to develop, doomguy being a silent protoganist does not help either, his actions feel... dumb

[Terepin]

Cuzzmotion původně napsal:

Terepin původně napsal:

The biggest issue for me personally is the discontinuity. DE doesn't pick up where D16 left off and TAG doesn't pick up where DE left off either.

you mean when they don't explain what happened before between eternal and 2016?

Yes.

[RevolverBigBosselote]

Darkronous the Supreme Senpai původně napsal:

Ny problem is, why awaken the dark loard instead of killing him while he is still a orb?

Because breaking the orb wont kill the Dark Lord, simply prevent him from taking physical shape. Without a physical form the Dark Lord can still command the armies of hell and cause more chaos. If the Dark Lord is killed in his physical form then it would have 2 effects: Sealing away hell so that no demon may ever leave, and causing every demon outside of hell to instantly die. Effectively stopping hell from ever invading another dimension or killing innocents again

[RevolverBigBosselote]

Darkronous the Supreme Senpai původně napsal:

cereal killer původně napsal:

> doom
> story
what's next? requests for romancing cacodemons?

Doom without storry is bad, as shown with doom 1 and 2

Oh, you're another of those "Story is more important than gameplay" idiots?

[Terepin]

What makes you think that? Just because someone considers story to be important that doesn't mean they put it above gameplay.

[RevolverBigBosselote]

Terepin původně napsal:

The biggest issue for me personally is the discontinuity. DE doesn't pick up where D16 left off and TAG doesn't pick up where DE left off either.

I don't really get what you mean. There's clearly a big jump in time between Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal, but the DLC seems to take place shortly after the main game. Did you literally expect the DLC to start with doom guy walking away from the Icon of Sin at the end of the base game?

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Terepin původně napsal:

What makes you think that? Just because someone considers story to be important that doesn't mean they put it above gameplay.

A great story with great gameplay is my thing or at least, its not that story is more important (one of my favorite games of all time is minecraft) it's just when the gameplay is bad and it doesn't have a compelling story like doom 1 or 2, well that's when i conisder it a bad game

[Grampire]

Terepin původně napsal:

What makes you think that? Just because someone considers story to be important that doesn't mean they put it above gameplay.

There's no problem with that preference.

I personally think the story in Eternal is more interesting than it's ever been in the series. That gets lost on a lot of people since the game isnt narrative based and requires you to read.

[Wanderer]

Honestly after Doom Eternals intro, I was like "Ok yeah these guys probably don't know where the story is going". It was really jarring to have Samuel Hayden set up as a main antagonist, then in the sequel almost entirely push that aside for a "Doomslayer is Superman" narrative. Original 2 games weren't narrative masterpieces either, but I thought 2016 had a well told, well paced story so it was kind of disappointing.

Dlc seems like they're rushing a games worth of story into a dlc pack. The lore writing is fantastic, however, I think the actual story told ingame isn't worth writing home about.

[Cuzzmotion]

Terepin původně napsal:

Cuzzmotion původně napsal:

you mean when they don't explain what happened before between eternal and 2016?

Yes.

oh yeah, lets see if someday they say about what happened there, maybe they will do that on a comic

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Wanderer původně napsal:

Honestly after Doom Eternals intro, I was like "Ok yeah these guys probably don't know where the story is going". It was really jarring to have Samuel Hayden set up as a main antagonist, then in the sequel almost entirely push that aside for a "Doomslayer is Superman" narrative. Original 2 games weren't narrative masterpieces either, but I thought 2016 had a well told, well paced story so it was kind of disappointing.

Dlc seems like they're rushing a games worth of story into a dlc pack. The lore writing is fantastic, however, I think the actual story told ingame isn't worth writing home about.

Yeah gonna be upfront, they can't do a dark lord fight justice in a dlc, he needs his own game to be setup, for us to know him and for us to fight him

[RevolverBigBosselote]

Darkronous the Supreme Senpai původně napsal:

Terepin původně napsal:

What makes you think that? Just because someone considers story to be important that doesn't mean they put it above gameplay.

A great story with great gameplay is my thing or at least, its not that story is more important (one of my favorite games of all time is minecraft) it's just when the gameplay is bad and it doesn't have a compelling story like doom 1 or 2, well that's when i conisder it a bad game

For the last time not personally liking something doesn't make it terrible we had this conversation when you tried arguing that the classic Doom games had no influence on the FPS genre

[Stint Lint Flipliptip]

Darkronous the Supreme Senpai původně napsal:

Wanderer původně napsal:

Honestly after Doom Eternals intro, I was like "Ok yeah these guys probably don't know where the story is going". It was really jarring to have Samuel Hayden set up as a main antagonist, then in the sequel almost entirely push that aside for a "Doomslayer is Superman" narrative. Original 2 games weren't narrative masterpieces either, but I thought 2016 had a well told, well paced story so it was kind of disappointing.

Dlc seems like they're rushing a games worth of story into a dlc pack. The lore writing is fantastic, however, I think the actual story told ingame isn't worth writing home about.

Yeah gonna be upfront, they can't do a dark lord fight justice in a dlc, he needs his own game to be setup, for us to know him and for us to fight him

The Dark Lord has been set up since Doom 2016

[Terepin]

I don't believe we will fight him, or at least destroy him. I think they will use him for sequel and end the expansion with cliffhanger.

[HappyCrasher]

Terepin původně napsal:

I don't believe we will fight him, or at least destroy him. I think they will use him for sequel and end the expansion with cliffhanger.

its good setup and all but i didnt think hed be introduced this early

[Squerol]

Terepin původně napsal:

I don't believe we will fight him, or at least destroy him. I think they will use him for sequel and end the expansion with cliffhanger.

We will probably fight 4 spirit possesed demons at same time instead lol

DLC bosses are so freaking bad, devs got too lazy to bother creating actually legit boss fights lol