The Ancient Gods Reveal Trailer Discussion! (+More!)

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A bit ago, the full trailer for The Ancient Gods, Part 1 was released, showering, us with tons of new info and stuff to talk about!
youtu.be/0KqsTyDHV5A
Yeah you probably knew all of that already.

Anyways, discuss what you think of the new content and what else you'd like to see being added!

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Messaggio originale di Grampire:

Messaggio originale di Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

I don't think he died though

He didn't, he's likely been restored as the father.

Also, I think Hayden realizes he's going to have to sacrifice himself to save Urdak. You're right, the Slayer probably holds him responsible for the invasion of Earth (he IS responsible for that) but he's also helped set in motion what could be the destruction of Hell.... just depends on how the Slayer feels about Urdak I guess.

I think personally, he doesn't care , story wise it was a mistake to make heaven just a race of aliens instead of of spirtiual beings, by making them aliens they are just more monsters the slayer has to fight instead of it being ya know, some race of deities

[Terepin]

And how would kill ghosts? Dust them off?

[Grampire]

Messaggio originale di Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

Messaggio originale di Grampire:

He didn't, he's likely been restored as the father.

Also, I think Hayden realizes he's going to have to sacrifice himself to save Urdak. You're right, the Slayer probably holds him responsible for the invasion of Earth (he IS responsible for that) but he's also helped set in motion what could be the destruction of Hell.... just depends on how the Slayer feels about Urdak I guess.

I think personally, he doesn't care , story wise it was a mistake to make heaven just a race of aliens instead of of spirtiual beings, by making them aliens they are just more monsters the slayer has to fight instead of it being ya know, some race of deities

I think the point is that the concept of deities and demons have been more or less blurred in Doom. With the technopunk aesthetic the demons had even in the original it makes sense for them to make these links.

Theres still plenty of space magic involved with the Maykrs, at least as much as there is with the demons.

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Messaggio originale di Grampire:

Messaggio originale di Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

I think personally, he doesn't care , story wise it was a mistake to make heaven just a race of aliens instead of of spirtiual beings, by making them aliens they are just more monsters the slayer has to fight instead of it being ya know, some race of deities

I think the point is that the concept of deities and demons have been more or less blurred in Doom. With the technopunk aesthetic the demons had even in the original it makes sense for them to make these links.

Theres still plenty of space magic involved with the Maykrs, at least as much as there is with the demons.

It feels like the demons are just aliens that live in a place simular to hell and comsidering that eternal links all the demons from 1 2 and 64 together, it means the ONLY doom game that has had actual demons is doom 3

[UNBREAKABLE]

I think was the point of Urdak was they aren't really divine after all. Hell in lore is actually divine and calls the Makrs fake gods. If you have a tech so advanced that it looks like magic, you can easily trick lowly beings who can't comprehend into thinking you are actually divine. If you didn't figure out they were aliens in lore, you wouldn't have noticed it in the first place since real angels or not it's still Doom's equivalent of heaven.

The Father, and the supposed ancient gods may be actual divine beings or creators, we'll have to see.

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Messaggio originale di UNBREAKABLE:

I think was the point of Urdak was they aren't really divine after all. Hell in lore is actually divine and calls the Makrs fake gods. If you have a tech so advanced that it looks like magic, you can easily trick lowly beings who can't comprehend into thinking you are actually divine. If you didn't figure out they were aliens in lore, you wouldn't have noticed it int he first place.

Unfornately, their can't be hell without a heaven, if urdak is heaven and are just aliens, then the "Demons" are just aliens, again doom 3 is the only one of these games that actually seems to have hell and demons

[UNBREAKABLE]

Messaggio originale di Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

Messaggio originale di UNBREAKABLE:

I think was the point of Urdak was they aren't really divine after all. Hell in lore is actually divine and calls the Makrs fake gods. If you have a tech so advanced that it looks like magic, you can easily trick lowly beings who can't comprehend into thinking you are actually divine. If you didn't figure out they were aliens in lore, you wouldn't have noticed it int he first place.

Unfornately, their can't be hell without a heaven, if urdak is heaven and are just aliens, then the "Demons" are just aliens, again doom 3 is the only one of these games that actually seems to have hell and demons

Or maybe you can? The concept of heaven and hell in Doom is clearly not based 100% off the man-made interpretations we have in the real world. If you were early man, and saw these beings, you're not going to know the difference between magic or just really advanced tech, and other details would get lost or misinterrupted.

Maybe nothing is divine, everything is just much older and evolved than mankind, makyrs and hell were perhaps at the top of the chain.