combat loop and non stop glory killing = boring

[mckracken]

after a few hours when you have seen all the new weapons and enemies the gameplay gets boring because you do the exact SAME thing over and over. You see the SAME glory kill animations thousands of times.

In Doom4 on nightmare you had to be very careful when and what you glory killed. And the "Flame Belch" mechanic, it sucks ony so many levels......

You also had to have some actual aiming (shooting) skills in Doom4.
Eternal is more often than not a QTE game like Shenmue. kinda true, if you think about it...LOL

No it's not a git gud issue:
I finished Doom4 on Nightmare.
I finished Doom5 on Ultra Violence.

[SWORDLION]

Repetitive corridors, level design and combat loop were in DOOM 2016, Eternal improved it to a phenomenal level and yet you find it boring instead of the boring DOOM 2016 if you compare them both on a diversity scale ? Move on then.

[mckracken]

in Doom4 on nightmare you had to be very careful when and what you glory killed.
You also had to have some actual aiming (shooting) skills.

Eternal is more often than not a QTE game like Shenmue. kinda true, if you think about it...LOL

[SWORDLION]

Ursprungligen skrivet av mckracken:

in Doom4 on nightmare you had to be very careful when and what you glory killed.
you had to have some actual shooting skills.

Eternal is more often than not a QTE game like Shenmue.

You have to be even more careful in Eternal on nightmare because you have to rely more on resource management and there are more demons on the screen at the same time so really it's not like what you are trying to tell in reality.They tried to push chess game to a new upper level than in DOOM 2016

[mckracken]

i beg to differ. You are freaking invincible after a glory kill. (double dash etc.)
also the flame belch mechanic sucks on so many levels...

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Ursprungligen skrivet av mckracken:

i beg to differ. You are freaking invincible after a glory kill. (double dash etc.)

I recommend you finishing nightmare and ultra nightmare in Eternal as for me now Doom 2016 feels like a piece of cake compared to Eternal, maybe it's just your perspective and no I can't change that.

[Paott]

Ursprungligen skrivet av mckracken:

i beg to differ. You are freaking invincible after a glory kill. (double dash etc.)
also the flame belch mechanic sucks on so many levels...

Play on Nightmare, come back, and try to say that again.

[chester]

I've done several nightmare playthroughs, and I think I've performed around 5 glory kills on average per playthrough. I could probably do a nightmare run without glory killing once if I wanted to. If you need to glory kill THAT much, then you probably aren't moving enough.

Your other arguments don't really make sense either. How is the flame belch a bad mechanic? And how is it harder to aim in 2016 than Eternal? Eternal has weakpoints, so I feel like it would be the other way around. I don't remember ever having to put any effort into aiming with 2016

[UNBREAKABLE]

Probably do like 10 glory kills at most per playthrough in the middle of big fights if I'm playing serious on nightmare, maybe 5 at most if doing ultra nightmare, and it's usually to re-charge blood punch before getting the crystal upgrades.

Glory killing on Nightmare is often not worth it, demons will hurl a bunch of damage at you at once by the time the invuln frames wear off and negate any health you got, and it only takes 2-3 taps on nightmare to kill if you can't move around. It's not worth the risk on Ultra Nightmare.

[CzechKronner]

It's clear OP hasn't yet mastered the game.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av CzechKronner:

It's clear OP hasn't yet mastered the game.

because they spend more time on the forums whining about it than trying to get better

[Grampire]

Doom 4 had actual aiming?

Lol I just jumped and fired the SSG non-stop. Seems to have worked.

[Goal_Line_]

Look at all the sheep fan boys. Its DOOM, I get it. Awesome to have a sequel, and a lot of the game rocks.

BUT...

DOOM shouldn't have a combat loop/flow! Neither of them do! This combat flow was designed for people that can't think on their own. I'm with you on this one. Terrible design! I have my own weapon flow, not some ABC kiddie flow the developers force me to use - this is why I like DOOM 2016 better.

[Wryyyong]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Goal_Line_:

Look at all the sheep fan boys. Its DOOM, I get it. Awesome to have a sequel, and a lot of the game rocks.

BUT...

DOOM shouldn't have a combat loop/flow! Neither of them do! This combat flow was designed for people that can't think on their own. I'm with you on this one. Terrible design! I have my own weapon flow, not some ABC kiddie flow the developers force me to use - this is why I like DOOM 2016 better.

Cry harder

[The Badman]

Careful glory kill only exist in the early part of d4. You dont have to glory kill so much in d4 because 1)you havent git gud enough at eternal 2)d4 became a cakewalk after you get all the weapons

In d4 there are only 2 ways of burst healing: glory kill or land several aoe kills at low health
In this game there are 2+3 ways of healing burst outside glory killing: blood punch, ice nade, drone headshot
And outside drone headshot, the other methods are easy as pie to do.

[Privette]

Ursprungligen skrivet av mckracken:

in Doom4 on nightmare you had to be very careful when and what you glory killed.
You also had to have some actual aiming (shooting) skills.

Eternal is more often than not a QTE game like Shenmue. kinda true, if you think about it...LOL

this is the furthest thing from Shenmue, just cause you have to do it in time isn't QTE move the ♥♥♥♥ on