Mick Gordon is a lying scumbag who sabotaged the soundtrack.

[DefectiveByDesign]

https://youtu.be/CvSUIg4rRhQ
1: Mick Gordon massively delayed the soundtrack, and didn't finish it.
2: Mick approved of id finishing the work.
3: MICK DID NOT GIVE ID ACCESS TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL.
4. Mick poorly mastered the in-game soundtrack, which is id's source for the other tracks.
5. Mick mislead people about the reason why the soundtrack was not mastered properly.

Overall, seems like the guy is full of himself, lazy, and thought he could lie to the public about what happened, all while making bonus because the delay changed his bonus deadline as well. The bastard took his money and ran, never finished his work, and sabotaged id's efforts to complete the work by not delivering source material.

This is not the behavior of an honest person, and quite frankly seems malicious in how he completed his work, and ultimately lied about what really happened. The guy also acts like he's the Steve Jobs of music composing if you've watched some of his videos. Huge ego.

Am I surprised? No. It's quite obvious he didn't put effort into making "real" music for Doom anyway, as the guitar only uses 2 strings and the rest is distorted sound that could have been done by your average music youtuber with a PC. The game tracks are such low quality that it wouldn't really matter if you replaced Mick with a freaking copycat fanboy who would work for peanuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcYvrR_hLxs

Id is breaking up with Mick Gordon over this. Good. Hire Andrew Hulshult for any future work, because that guy puts the work in, and proves he isn't full of himself by working with indie devs. That, or any of the million youtubers who can copy Mick's style with a guitar and editing software.

IMO, Mick thought he could get away with this, especially since ID are such nice people, but there's no way the fans are ever gonna forget, and no future company will want to work with him either now that we know his work ethic, which is none. Your 15 minutes of fame are over, Mick.

[Doctor Eggman]

Originally posted by rip and tear their butts:

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Yongyea the same guy that kept choking on Kojimas ♥♥♥♥?

Also wouldn't believe anything related to Bethesda. Can't wait for that one guy in this thread to just rant on me after I mentioned Bethesda because it's not like like publishers are actually responsible for more than just publishing the game right

Incase you didn't know, Bethesda Softworks doesn't actually have a finance department; they're responsible solely for marketing only. Bethesda Game Studios handle the game development side of things and Zenimax provides the finance...

So everyone bringing up "Bethesda bad" should actually be pointing fingers @ Bethesda Game Studios for their failures with Fallout 76 which is a different entity completely to ID Software and Bethesda Softworks.

ID Software is an independent game studio that receives finance from Zenimax and has Bethesda Softworks handle their advertisement program.

But yeah, I'm happy to correct you if that's the tangent you're going on with. ;)

And Yongyea is about as trustworthy with his "reporting" as any other YouTuber personality, in this day and age its either your own research or none at all.

[Gila]

From Stratton's open letter:

and because of ongoing issues receiving the music we needed for the game

This is the important part. Something else must've happened in the background that is not known to the public. Since it's not creative differences, like Marty wrote, then it must be workflow and/or finance issues. That's the base. Everything else, like what happened around soundtrack release, is just consequences.

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

As a artist who gets paid to do artwork from indepentent contractors (Aka commisions) i can say, mick gordon was in the wrong here, he should have dropped the perfectionist attuitude and finished the songs asap, if he had time he could have easily touched them up... but he did not, and when the music got called out for being medicore ....he threw his employer under the boss

[Squerol]

Originally posted by DefectiveByDesign:

Hire Andrew Hulshult for any future work

Two of his tracks in Quake Champions are really god-tier - ''Corrupted Keep'' aka ''Goroth'' and ''The Netherworld''.
Main menu theme is nice simple tune too.

[Gixanix]

Originally posted by Alien Alien:

Originally posted by Gixanix:

It pretty much is ID's fault, their product if you put a deadline you're already dooming yourself regardless look at Nintendo they don't rush their games.

... do you even understand project management?

Software development? Anything?

When you have stakeholders and you have a piece of software that's in development: deadlines and proper planning are pretty much, must have. Otherwise you get this thing called "development hell".

And Nintendo is like any other Japanese videogames company, whether you like it or not, they treat their non-high-level staff like crap. The only reason why their games have such high standards is thanks to their work culture, not because they have nice relaxed deadlines like western nations.

I should know, I'm a weeb after all.

Okay Boomer LMFAO

[DaylightDemon]

huh would you look at that, there are two sides to this. i initially was fully on the hate train against id, but it sure looks like mick couldnt keep up with the deadline and now lies about it, because its more convinient. not cool. its sad that this has led to id breaking up with mick more so even than the other way round. but its understandable as not only was he not able to deliver what was part of his contract, but hes also quite a ♥♥♥♥ about it when asked by fans. and blames somebody else when he clearly is the one to blame for the situation in the first place.

[talloyer]

Look who is talking, Martyguy's lapdog. Here is the ultimate response to your pathetic allegations.

About the problem with Marty "The Coward Scumbag" Stratton's open letter

(long text):

I say Mick Gordon is only about 20% to blame, and mostly just because he accepted this DOOMed deal. Only 2 months (or even less since MarTYCOON SCRAPton didn't specify the exact date the contract was signed) to mix the whole OST (59 tracks, over 4 hours)? It was never going to work. It's pointless to speculate why Mick had so much difficulty to deliver more tracks.
Marty Stratton wrote himself as some responsible, dedicated, tolerating, and even caring and forgiving manager/leader, but that could not be further from the truth. Marty Stratton is, in Reality, a irresponsible, coward, unassuming, manipulative, demagogue, dissimulated, slow-thinking and uninspired executive.
He is the personification of why companies need Public Relations Department. This pathetic stunt of his is only working because DOOM Eternal is too much a success to most people to care about this ("a musical album, nah, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥.") and Mick Gordon has been choosing to stay quiet about this overwhelming attack (which is infuriating)!
For starters, why the mix only started on January instead of October/November/2019, when the composing was finally done? Why not instead hiring Mick Gordon straight to compose for the DLCs??? This would have been so much more intelligent for Marty to do, and hiring someone else qualified to do the mixing.
If there were only 12 mandatory tracks, why not defining beforehand which 12 tracks should have been prioritized to be mixed and delivered? Marty didn't do that, which would have helped Mick a lot to focus on his work. Not to mention it was delusional to expect all 59 mixed tracks were to be delivered when only 12 were mandatory. If I was in Mick Gordon’s shoes I would have chosen the 12 most interesting tracks to work on, deliver them to Marty Stratton and tell him to ♥♥♥♥ off and get by (in a polite, professional way, of course. Or not.).
He claimed they needed to be "mindful about consumer protection laws". ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Bethesda, its parent company, breaks them all the time, and still stands strong (not in reputation), why couldn't id Software endure any potential legal trouble by delaying the musical album? And for a Collector's Edition, which only a few thousands of people at best to own it; but they do not bother about delaying a game which far more people pre-ordered and are expected to buy millions of copies, where people even applaud the delay because they assume the game really needs polishing (a sadly ubiquitous reality of this generation). Double standards! Why? Because (I assume) Bethesda rushed the release of the musical album and refused to delay it, WHEN THEY COULD. Bethesda or id Software could have released a statement apologizing for the delay of the OST album of DOOM Eternal, saying there were unforeseen complications, establishing a new date, 3 or 4 months beyond the original release date and assuring Collector's Edition they would receive first, at the promised date with no additional costs; if a physical delivery proved impossible (pandemic and such), they would provide a free code to download the OST. Simple enough, but no, they preferred to rush the OST album and spare additional work (a musical album doesn't make as much money as a game and its DLCs, micro-transactions...).
As for Mick Gordon's delays: Like I said, it's pointless to speculate what were his personal issues, but regardless, since there was such a tight schedule, by mid-February MARTY STRATTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED MICK GORDON to be replaced asap, presumably by the competent enough Chad Mossholder, who would have had much more time to do that thankless job. But MARTY STRATTON CHOSE NOT TO; he decided to persist with Mick Gordon , HIS FAULT. He waited for the game to be released, and more 2 weeks of delay to only then resorting to Chad to finish the job, and the poor bastard couldn't do much good. Make this clear: Marty Stratton had more than enough time (more than 2 days, more than 2 weeks) to replace Mick Gordon and still deliver a decently mixed album, but he wasted his chances. Marty's responsibility.
It's funny that Marty pointed that Mick "did nothing to defend" (buaah, you mean bastard) Chad from the attacks he was supposedly receiving. I say: so what?! Chad is Marty's (the boss) problem, not Mick's, so it was the former's responsibility to defend him. Mick never attacked Chad in the first place, all he did was distancing himself from the poorly mixed tracks, which any layman can acknowledge the abysmal difference in quality. Since Chad's name was credited and everyone knows Mick Gordon is better than that of course people were to criticize Chad. Sure, as always, several must have exaggerated on criticism, offending and such, but this would never have happened at all if id Software or Bethesda had been transparent in the first place. Sure there still would have been haters, but people would have been forgiving to Chad; though most likely would instead to focus the pressure all on id Software’s upper management (oops, Marty Stratton, how coincidental) and Bethesda’s too, but this was undesirable, wasn’t it? Marty must have thought people would shut up shortly, but they didn’t, Mick expressed interest to finish the mix later if he had the opportunity, so Marty decided to play very rough to shut all that pressure down. And thanks to you people who are too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ happy with DOOM Eternal as if it was all forgiven, it worked all too well for Marty Stratton.
In fact, If Marty Stratton was so interested in defending Chad Mossholder as he claims, he would have done it as soon as the attacks started against Chad, 3 days tops, to release a statement confronting and calling out the people who were abusing their criticism, and taking the opportunity to address the situation, to apologize to the public (his responsibility as studio director, yes) and especially, promising to release a better version of the OST album, for free to Collector's Edition owners. Marty Stratton chose to do NONE of that. He chose not to confront the people because he didn't want to risk losing consumers, to potentially lower the sales. In other words, Marty Stratton didn't want to lose money and preferred instead to make Mick Gordon a scapegoat using the attacks on Chad Mossholder as an excuse. COWARD! To make things absolutely clear: MARTY STRATTON DID NOT HAVE TO ATTACK MICK GORDON TO DEFEND CHAD MOSSHOLDER FROM THE PUBLIC.
The very existence of such an aggressive open letter towards Mick Gordon is very disturbing. If Mick had been trashtalking a lot, offending id Software and, Bethesda, actively inciting hatred upon them (just like happens too often in Politics), this open letter’s existence would have been absolutely fair and even necessary. Except it was never necessary to do so. Mick just gave a few comments and stayed quiet. As Marty Stratton himself admitted on the letter, he talked with Mick Gordon (by e-mail) who justified him his issues with the DOOMed project he unfortunately had accepted to work on. So why go public, hm? Was there no resolution between them? Funny that Marty Stratton never told us what his own response was. So this open letter feels either like a gratuitous “intensive aggression” or like a "personal vendetta" against Mick Gordon. Why did Bethesda allowed this? Why not let things resolve themselves privately when they clearly could?
All more reason why it is so disconcerting Mick Gordon has been choosing not to manifest himself. The current scenario is too bad for him, far too many people believed completely on Marty Stratton's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ far too easily, and his reputation is ruined enough Mick is bound to have trouble to find future work on gaming industry. Other studios and companies will see him as someone unreliable, a liability. For id software, his time is done. Though Marty Stratton only spoke of the DLCs, it is unlikely they will hire Mick Gordon again for next projects, whether of Doom (id Software might like too much Mick’s replacement) or id’s other franchises. And Bethesda's too, by extension: Wolfenstein 3 or Prey 2 , with Mick Gordon? Unlikely.
And do you know the very worst of all this? Regardless of who you think is to blame the most, MARTY STRATTON NEVER PROMISED TO FIX THE SOUNDTRACK ALBUM OF DOOM ETERNAL All he said the closest was “If Mick is dissatisfied with the content of his delivery, we would certainly entertain distributing additional tracks” which is very vague and even condescending. Too late for that. The bottom line is, THE OST ALBUM OF DOOM ETERNAL IS GOING TO STAY AS IS, eternally.
So, people, please try to be more critical of this. Claim for Mick Gordon to present his own story. Let Mick Gordon defend himself. Do not presume too much, do not presume Marty Stratton was absolutely right, and do never presume Bethesda is innocent either.

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

I Thought this thread was dead, mick gordon is a scumbag and we moved on... but it looks like a mick fanboy had to defend the honor of his king.... fantastic

[lol no]

Originally posted by Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

I Thought this thread was dead, mick gordon is a scumbag and we moved on... but it looks like a mick fanboy had to defend the honor of his king.... fantastic

Can't stop the simping I suppose!

[Maeve]

Originally posted by talloyer:

Look who is talking, Martyguy's lapdog. Here is the ultimate response to your pathetic allegations.

About the problem with Marty "The Coward Scumbag" Stratton's open letter

(long text):
About the problem with Marty "The Coward Scumbag" Stratton's open letter (long text):
I say Mick Gordon is only about 20% to blame, and mostly just because he accepted this DOOMed deal. Only 2 months (or even less since MarTYCOON SCRAPton didn't specify the exact date the contract was signed) to mix the whole OST (59 tracks, over 4 hours)? It was never going to work. It's pointless to speculate why Mick had so much difficulty to deliver more tracks.
Marty Stratton wrote himself as some responsible, dedicated, tolerating, and even caring and forgiving manager/leader, but that could not be further from the truth. Marty Stratton is, in Reality, a irresponsible, coward, unassuming, manipulative, demagogue, dissimulated, slow-thinking and uninspired executive.
He is the personification of why companies need Public Relations Department. This pathetic stunt of his is only working because DOOM Eternal is too much a success to most people to care about this ("a musical album, nah, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥.") and Mick Gordon has been choosing to stay quiet about this overwhelming attack (which is infuriating)!
For starters, why the mix only started on January instead of October/November/2019, when the composing was finally done? Why not instead hiring Mick Gordon straight to compose for the DLCs??? This would have been so much more intelligent for Marty to do, and hiring someone else qualified to do the mixing.
If there were only 12 mandatory tracks, why not defining beforehand which 12 tracks should have been prioritized to be mixed and delivered? Marty didn't do that, which would have helped Mick a lot to focus on his work. Not to mention it was delusional to expect all 59 mixed tracks were to be delivered when only 12 were mandatory. If I was in Mick Gordon’s shoes I would have chosen the 12 most interesting tracks to work on, deliver them to Marty Stratton and tell him to ♥♥♥♥ off and get by (in a polite, professional way, of course. Or not.).
He claimed they needed to be "mindful about consumer protection laws". ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Bethesda, its parent company, breaks them all the time, and still stands strong (not in reputation), why couldn't id Software endure any potential legal trouble by delaying the musical album? And for a Collector's Edition, which only a few thousands of people at best to own it; but they do not bother about delaying a game which far more people pre-ordered and are expected to buy millions of copies, where people even applaud the delay because they assume the game really needs polishing (a sadly ubiquitous reality of this generation). Double standards! Why? Because (I assume) Bethesda rushed the release of the musical album and refused to delay it, WHEN THEY COULD. Bethesda or id Software could have released a statement apologizing for the delay of the OST album of DOOM Eternal, saying there were unforeseen complications, establishing a new date, 3 or 4 months beyond the original release date and assuring Collector's Edition they would receive first, at the promised date with no additional costs; if a physical delivery proved impossible (pandemic and such), they would provide a free code to download the OST. Simple enough, but no, they preferred to rush the OST album and spare additional work (a musical album doesn't make as much money as a game and its DLCs, micro-transactions...).
As for Mick Gordon's delays: Like I said, it's pointless to speculate what were his personal issues, but regardless, since there was such a tight schedule, by mid-February MARTY STRATTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED MICK GORDON to be replaced asap, presumably by the competent enough Chad Mossholder, who would have had much more time to do that thankless job. But MARTY STRATTON CHOSE NOT TO; he decided to persist with Mick Gordon , HIS FAULT. He waited for the game to be released, and more 2 weeks of delay to only then resorting to Chad to finish the job, and the poor bastard couldn't do much good. Make this clear: Marty Stratton had more than enough time (more than 2 days, more than 2 weeks) to replace Mick Gordon and still deliver a decently mixed album, but he wasted his chances. Marty's responsibility.
It's funny that Marty pointed that Mick "did nothing to defend" (buaah, you mean bastard) Chad from the attacks he was supposedly receiving. I say: so what?! Chad is Marty's (the boss) problem, not Mick's, so it was the former's responsibility to defend him. Mick never attacked Chad in the first place, all he did was distancing himself from the poorly mixed tracks, which any layman can acknowledge the abysmal difference in quality. Since Chad's name was credited and everyone knows Mick Gordon is better than that of course people were to criticize Chad. Sure, as always, several must have exaggerated on criticism, offending and such, but this would never have happened at all if id Software or Bethesda had been transparent in the first place. Sure there still would have been haters, but people would have been forgiving to Chad; though most likely would instead to focus the pressure all on id Software’s upper management (oops, Marty Stratton, how coincidental) and Bethesda’s too, but this was undesirable, wasn’t it? Marty must have thought people would shut up shortly, but they didn’t, Mick expressed interest to finish the mix later if he had the opportunity, so Marty decided to play very rough to shut all that pressure down. And thanks to you people who are too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ happy with DOOM Eternal as if it was all forgiven, it worked all too well for Marty Stratton.
In fact, If Marty Stratton was so interested in defending Chad Mossholder as he claims, he would have done it as soon as the attacks started against Chad, 3 days tops, to release a statement confronting and calling out the people who were abusing their criticism, and taking the opportunity to address the situation, to apologize to the public (his responsibility as studio director, yes) and especially, promising to release a better version of the OST album, for free to Collector's Edition owners. Marty Stratton chose to do NONE of that. He chose not to confront the people because he didn't want to risk losing consumers, to potentially lower the sales. In other words, Marty Stratton didn't want to lose money and preferred instead to make Mick Gordon a scapegoat using the attacks on Chad Mossholder as an excuse. COWARD! To make things absolutely clear: MARTY STRATTON DID NOT HAVE TO ATTACK MICK GORDON TO DEFEND CHAD MOSSHOLDER FROM THE PUBLIC. The very existence of such an aggressive open letter towards Mick Gordon is very disturbing. If Mick had been trashtalking a lot, offending id Software and, Bethesda, actively inciting hatred upon them (just like happens too often in Politics), this open letter’s existence would have been absolutely fair and even necessary. Except it was never necessary to do so. Mick just gave a few comments and stayed quiet. As Marty Stratton himself admitted on the letter, he talked with Mick Gordon (by e-mail) who justified him his issues with the DOOMed project he unfortunately had accepted to work on. So why go public, hm? Was there no resolution between them? Funny that Marty Stratton never told us what his own response was. So this open letter feels either like a gratuitous “intensive aggression” or like a "personal vendetta" against Mick Gordon. Why did Bethesda allowed this? Why not let things resolve themselves privately when they clearly could?
All more reason why it is so disconcerting Mick Gordon has been choosing not to manifest himself. The current scenario is too bad for him, far too many people believed completely on Marty Stratton's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ far too easily, and his reputation is ruined enough Mick is bound to have trouble to find future work on gaming industry. Other studios and companies will see him as someone unreliable, a liability. For id software, his time is done. Though Marty Stratton only spoke of the DLCs, it is unlikely they will hire Mick Gordon again for next projects, whether of Doom (id Software might like too much Mick’s replacement) or id’s other franchises. And Bethesda's too, by extension: Wolfenstein 3 or Prey 2 , with Mick Gordon? Unlikely.
And do you know the very worst of all this? Regardless of who you think is to blame the most, MARTY STRATTON NEVER PROMISED TO FIX THE SOUNDTRACK ALBUM OF DOOM ETERNAL All he said the closest was “If Mick is dissatisfied with the content of his delivery, we would certainly entertain distributing additional tracks” which is very vague and even condescending. Too late for that. The bottom line is, THE OST ALBUM OF DOOM ETERNAL IS GOING TO STAY AS IS, eternally.
So, people, please try to be more critical of this. Claim for Mick Gordon to present his own story. Let Mick Gordon defend himself. Do not presume too much, do not presume Marty Stratton was absolutely right, and do never presume Bethesda is innocent either.

pretty cool, but i don't remember asking

[Jimmi Stixx]

Originally posted by Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

As a artist who gets paid to do artwork from indepentent contractors (Aka commisions) i can say, mick gordon was in the wrong here, he should have dropped the perfectionist attuitude and finished the songs asap, if he had time he could have easily touched them up... but he did not, and when the music got called out for being medicore ....he threw his employer under the boss

I agree. Who would notice if he rushed the soundtrack? I hated the soundtrack in 2016. Dub step is obnoxious musical gibberish. Perfectionist attitude? I could see how kids might think Mick is mediocre but if they think he is good they must be a bigger fan of ecstasy than good music. Go hang at the club and grind.

The midi's in the first Doom games had better writing but music used to have to be better in general. I can remember the tracks in the first Dooms. Not so much 2016 or DE though.

[bullerbuller7]

Originally posted by talloyer:

Look who is talking, Martyguy's lapdog. Here is the ultimate response to your pathetic allegations.

About the problem with Marty "The Coward Scumbag" Stratton's open letter

(long text):
About the problem with Marty "The Coward Scumbag" Stratton's open letter (long text):
I say Mick Gordon is only about 20% to blame, and mostly just because he accepted this DOOMed deal. Only 2 months (or even less since MarTYCOON SCRAPton didn't specify the exact date the contract was signed) to mix the whole OST (59 tracks, over 4 hours)? It was never going to work. It's pointless to speculate why Mick had so much difficulty to deliver more tracks.
Marty Stratton wrote himself as some responsible, dedicated, tolerating, and even caring and forgiving manager/leader, but that could not be further from the truth. Marty Stratton is, in Reality, a irresponsible, coward, unassuming, manipulative, demagogue, dissimulated, slow-thinking and uninspired executive.
He is the personification of why companies need Public Relations Department. This pathetic stunt of his is only working because DOOM Eternal is too much a success to most people to care about this ("a musical album, nah, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥.") and Mick Gordon has been choosing to stay quiet about this overwhelming attack (which is infuriating)!
For starters, why the mix only started on January instead of October/November/2019, when the composing was finally done? Why not instead hiring Mick Gordon straight to compose for the DLCs??? This would have been so much more intelligent for Marty to do, and hiring someone else qualified to do the mixing.
If there were only 12 mandatory tracks, why not defining beforehand which 12 tracks should have been prioritized to be mixed and delivered? Marty didn't do that, which would have helped Mick a lot to focus on his work. Not to mention it was delusional to expect all 59 mixed tracks were to be delivered when only 12 were mandatory. If I was in Mick Gordon’s shoes I would have chosen the 12 most interesting tracks to work on, deliver them to Marty Stratton and tell him to ♥♥♥♥ off and get by (in a polite, professional way, of course. Or not.).
He claimed they needed to be "mindful about consumer protection laws". ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Bethesda, its parent company, breaks them all the time, and still stands strong (not in reputation), why couldn't id Software endure any potential legal trouble by delaying the musical album? And for a Collector's Edition, which only a few thousands of people at best to own it; but they do not bother about delaying a game which far more people pre-ordered and are expected to buy millions of copies, where people even applaud the delay because they assume the game really needs polishing (a sadly ubiquitous reality of this generation). Double standards! Why? Because (I assume) Bethesda rushed the release of the musical album and refused to delay it, WHEN THEY COULD. Bethesda or id Software could have released a statement apologizing for the delay of the OST album of DOOM Eternal, saying there were unforeseen complications, establishing a new date, 3 or 4 months beyond the original release date and assuring Collector's Edition they would receive first, at the promised date with no additional costs; if a physical delivery proved impossible (pandemic and such), they would provide a free code to download the OST. Simple enough, but no, they preferred to rush the OST album and spare additional work (a musical album doesn't make as much money as a game and its DLCs, micro-transactions...).
As for Mick Gordon's delays: Like I said, it's pointless to speculate what were his personal issues, but regardless, since there was such a tight schedule, by mid-February MARTY STRATTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED MICK GORDON to be replaced asap, presumably by the competent enough Chad Mossholder, who would have had much more time to do that thankless job. But MARTY STRATTON CHOSE NOT TO; he decided to persist with Mick Gordon , HIS FAULT. He waited for the game to be released, and more 2 weeks of delay to only then resorting to Chad to finish the job, and the poor bastard couldn't do much good. Make this clear: Marty Stratton had more than enough time (more than 2 days, more than 2 weeks) to replace Mick Gordon and still deliver a decently mixed album, but he wasted his chances. Marty's responsibility.
It's funny that Marty pointed that Mick "did nothing to defend" (buaah, you mean bastard) Chad from the attacks he was supposedly receiving. I say: so what?! Chad is Marty's (the boss) problem, not Mick's, so it was the former's responsibility to defend him. Mick never attacked Chad in the first place, all he did was distancing himself from the poorly mixed tracks, which any layman can acknowledge the abysmal difference in quality. Since Chad's name was credited and everyone knows Mick Gordon is better than that of course people were to criticize Chad. Sure, as always, several must have exaggerated on criticism, offending and such, but this would never have happened at all if id Software or Bethesda had been transparent in the first place. Sure there still would have been haters, but people would have been forgiving to Chad; though most likely would instead to focus the pressure all on id Software’s upper management (oops, Marty Stratton, how coincidental) and Bethesda’s too, but this was undesirable, wasn’t it? Marty must have thought people would shut up shortly, but they didn’t, Mick expressed interest to finish the mix later if he had the opportunity, so Marty decided to play very rough to shut all that pressure down. And thanks to you people who are too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ happy with DOOM Eternal as if it was all forgiven, it worked all too well for Marty Stratton.
In fact, If Marty Stratton was so interested in defending Chad Mossholder as he claims, he would have done it as soon as the attacks started against Chad, 3 days tops, to release a statement confronting and calling out the people who were abusing their criticism, and taking the opportunity to address the situation, to apologize to the public (his responsibility as studio director, yes) and especially, promising to release a better version of the OST album, for free to Collector's Edition owners. Marty Stratton chose to do NONE of that. He chose not to confront the people because he didn't want to risk losing consumers, to potentially lower the sales. In other words, Marty Stratton didn't want to lose money and preferred instead to make Mick Gordon a scapegoat using the attacks on Chad Mossholder as an excuse. COWARD! To make things absolutely clear: MARTY STRATTON DID NOT HAVE TO ATTACK MICK GORDON TO DEFEND CHAD MOSSHOLDER FROM THE PUBLIC. The very existence of such an aggressive open letter towards Mick Gordon is very disturbing. If Mick had been trashtalking a lot, offending id Software and, Bethesda, actively inciting hatred upon them (just like happens too often in Politics), this open letter’s existence would have been absolutely fair and even necessary. Except it was never necessary to do so. Mick just gave a few comments and stayed quiet. As Marty Stratton himself admitted on the letter, he talked with Mick Gordon (by e-mail) who justified him his issues with the DOOMed project he unfortunately had accepted to work on. So why go public, hm? Was there no resolution between them? Funny that Marty Stratton never told us what his own response was. So this open letter feels either like a gratuitous “intensive aggression” or like a "personal vendetta" against Mick Gordon. Why did Bethesda allowed this? Why not let things resolve themselves privately when they clearly could?
All more reason why it is so disconcerting Mick Gordon has been choosing not to manifest himself. The current scenario is too bad for him, far too many people believed completely on Marty Stratton's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ far too easily, and his reputation is ruined enough Mick is bound to have trouble to find future work on gaming industry. Other studios and companies will see him as someone unreliable, a liability. For id software, his time is done. Though Marty Stratton only spoke of the DLCs, it is unlikely they will hire Mick Gordon again for next projects, whether of Doom (id Software might like too much Mick’s replacement) or id’s other franchises. And Bethesda's too, by extension: Wolfenstein 3 or Prey 2 , with Mick Gordon? Unlikely.
And do you know the very worst of all this? Regardless of who you think is to blame the most, MARTY STRATTON NEVER PROMISED TO FIX THE SOUNDTRACK ALBUM OF DOOM ETERNAL All he said the closest was “If Mick is dissatisfied with the content of his delivery, we would certainly entertain distributing additional tracks” which is very vague and even condescending. Too late for that. The bottom line is, THE OST ALBUM OF DOOM ETERNAL IS GOING TO STAY AS IS, eternally.
So, people, please try to be more critical of this. Claim for Mick Gordon to present his own story. Let Mick Gordon defend himself. Do not presume too much, do not presume Marty Stratton was absolutely right, and do never presume Bethesda is innocent either.

So interesting.

[Darkronous the Supreme Senpai]

Originally posted by Aaron Rodgers:

Originally posted by Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

As a artist who gets paid to do artwork from indepentent contractors (Aka commisions) i can say, mick gordon was in the wrong here, he should have dropped the perfectionist attuitude and finished the songs asap, if he had time he could have easily touched them up... but he did not, and when the music got called out for being medicore ....he threw his employer under the boss

I agree. Who would notice if he rushed the soundtrack? I hated the soundtrack in 2016. Dub step is obnoxious musical gibberish. Perfectionist attitude? I could see how kids might think Mick is mediocre but if they think he is good they must be a bigger fan of ecstasy than good music. Go hang at the club and grind.

The midi's in the first Doom games had better writing but music used to have to be better in general. I can remember the tracks in the first Dooms. Not so much 2016 or DE though.

I disagree, doom 2016's and ESPICALYL eternal has better music then most of doom 1 and doom 2, then again doom 3's music is better then most of the og soundtracks so....

[Doctor Eggman]

Originally posted by Aaron Rodgers:

Originally posted by Darkronous the Supreme Senpai:

As a artist who gets paid to do artwork from indepentent contractors (Aka commisions) i can say, mick gordon was in the wrong here, he should have dropped the perfectionist attuitude and finished the songs asap, if he had time he could have easily touched them up... but he did not, and when the music got called out for being medicore ....he threw his employer under the boss

I agree. Who would notice if he rushed the soundtrack? I hated the soundtrack in 2016. Dub step is obnoxious musical gibberish. Perfectionist attitude? I could see how kids might think Mick is mediocre but if they think he is good they must be a bigger fan of ecstasy than good music. Go hang at the club and grind.

The midi's in the first Doom games had better writing but music used to have to be better in general. I can remember the tracks in the first Dooms. Not so much 2016 or DE though.

Careful my fellow music buff... the denizens of this forum might call you a "boomer" for implicating such heresy!

Tread carefully with your words, and may you be safe in your musical endeavours.

And technically Mick Gordon's genre is DJENT which for better explanation is literally synth guitars, it might be why it sounds nothing like actual instruments from metal that people are used to.

I've never been fond of having synthesised leading instruments which is the real reason I dislike DJENT personally, but I don't necessarily dislike synth instruments in general. I find it ironic that the MIDI instruments used on the Roland SC55 now sound more realistic than any of the synth found in "modern" Doom.

[Jimmi Stixx]

I blame all the boring metalcore bands but to be fair after so much good music has been made over the decades. There isn't much left to play but ♥♥♥♥.