GPU louder when playing Doom 2016 than when playing Eternal. Why?

[♥♥♥♥ Slap]

I have MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC and I can play Doom Eternal on Ultra Nightmare level of detail very smoothly while the GPU stays silent. When I play Doom 2016, the GPU fans go crazy. Anyone have a good theory why that is?

[Salamand3r-]

Doom (2016) has a lot of quirks associated with the 200FPS framerate cap (and brief uncapped framerate spikes during loading screens).

This includes power draw spikes that are significant enough to trip OCP/OVP in some systems.

If I had to guess, it's power draw oddities might be somehow to blame.

[s1mple :Daddy]

it is also too expensive

[fenderjaguar]

show us a GPU usage graph during both games

[margalus]

Vsnc off in 2016 and on in Eternal?

[~Neon Doom~]

lol ? Is it over heating? If not whats the problem? are your fans at 3k+ rpm?? If not it can't be that loud

[Verios44]

OP

Armor MSI cards of any kind are the bottom tier, worst ofnthe worst. They usually have the lowest quality thermal solutions.

I used to have that same card. Its loud, and will always be loud under load. One thing I can recommend is to refresh the thermal paste. At least its a very simple card to take apart.

Another is to go into Radeon Software settings, go into tuning and try to undervolt the card.

Undervolting is the process of leaving the card at stock clocks but lowering the voltage until you have reached the minimum needed for stock preofrmance.

This is doable on AMD cards because they always want more voltage than they actually need.

[♥♥♥♥ Slap]

Originally posted by margalus:

Vsnc off in 2016 and on in Eternal?

Actually yes and turning Vsync on in 2016 helps a lot, thanks!

[♥♥♥♥ Slap]

Originally posted by fenderjaguar:

show us a GPU usage graph during both games

here is Eternal: https://imgur.com/5J7yzdx
here is 2016 Vsync on: https://imgur.com/7NXRsWk
here is 2016 Vsync off: https://imgur.com/axcRuYu

[♥♥♥♥ Slap]

Originally posted by SirCumalot:

lol ? Is it over heating? If not whats the problem? are your fans at 3k+ rpm?? If not it can't be that loud

it is over 3k, as shown in a screenshot in my reply to fendejagur

[fenderjaguar]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ Slap:

here is Eternal: https://imgur.com/5J7yzdx
here is 2016 Vsync on: https://imgur.com/7NXRsWk
here is 2016 Vsync off: https://imgur.com/axcRuYu

Do you not cap frame rate with RTSS? it is wonderful tool :)

https://i.ibb.co/Ph0BHty/rtss.jpg

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download.html

[♥♥♥♥ Slap]

Originally posted by Verios44:

OP

Armor MSI cards of any kind are the bottom tier, worst ofnthe worst. They usually have the lowest quality thermal solutions.

I used to have that same card. Its loud, and will always be loud under load. One thing I can recommend is to refresh the thermal paste. At least its a very simple card to take apart.

Another is to go into Radeon Software settings, go into tuning and try to undervolt the card.

Undervolting is the process of leaving the card at stock clocks but lowering the voltage until you have reached the minimum needed for stock preofrmance.

This is doable on AMD cards because they always want more voltage than they actually need.

Thank you for these tips, Ive read very similar summaries on other forums. Actually thinking of returning the 580 MSI to the store, since Im used to a very silent GTX 960

[margalus]

Originally posted by fenderjaguar:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ Slap:

here is Eternal: https://imgur.com/5J7yzdx
here is 2016 Vsync on: https://imgur.com/7NXRsWk
here is 2016 Vsync off: https://imgur.com/axcRuYu

Do you not cap frame rate with RTSS? it is wonderful tool :)

https://i.ibb.co/Ph0BHty/rtss.jpg

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download.html

Vsync caps the rate. That is what the op's whole issuse was. They were running vsync on one and not the other.

[fenderjaguar]

Originally posted by margalus:

Vsync caps the rate. That is what the op's whole issuse was. They were running vsync on one and not the other.

vsync caps, incidentally, at the refresh rate, and can often introduce input lag and other issues

real frame rate capping with engine or RTSS has far more control, especially when you have high refresh rate monitor, and even if you are using vsync, you'd still want to cap

[Verios44]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ Slap:

Originally posted by Verios44:

OP

Armor MSI cards of any kind are the bottom tier, worst ofnthe worst. They usually have the lowest quality thermal solutions.

I used to have that same card. Its loud, and will always be loud under load. One thing I can recommend is to refresh the thermal paste. At least its a very simple card to take apart.

Another is to go into Radeon Software settings, go into tuning and try to undervolt the card.

Undervolting is the process of leaving the card at stock clocks but lowering the voltage until you have reached the minimum needed for stock preofrmance.

This is doable on AMD cards because they always want more voltage than they actually need.

Thank you for these tips, Ive read very similar summaries on other forums. Actually thinking of returning the 580 MSI to the store, since Im used to a very silent GTX 960

A 960 is a big downgrade compared to a 580 though. My recommendation is to get a Sapphire, XFX, or PowerColor Rx 580 if you can find one.

If you cannot, get a Rx5600xt from those same brands, 2060(ti or super), or a 1660 super.

All of those are in the $200 - $300 range and are all vastly superior to a 960.

If you want to go the Nvidia 1660 or 2060 route just get a decent dual fan card from Asus or something like that.