Adaptive Difficulty

[xxxIndyxxx]

Does anybody else feel like this completely ruins the fun of playing on nightmare? I mean it's supposed to be hard, I will die, I get that, then I realise some of the bigger baddies are gone, I easily win the battle, and have no satifaction beating that battle... what's the point of trying to challenge myself if the game will just help my out anyway...

[jan_hendrik_m]

it ruins my fun even on hurt me plenty so dont cry ;-)

[thebiomage]

Wait, this is a thing that happens? I died quite a few times in the first slayer gate fight and never noticed it getting easier or the amount of bigger demons being lower.

[Kain]

Does it have adaptive difficulty? I think it only asks if you want a sentinel armor. but that's it.

[xxxIndyxxx]

it definitely does, not sure about slayer gates but it does after 3 or 4 deaths I think... If an arena has 3 mancubi, suddenly there are 2 (and that's just what you can see at the start of the fight who knows what happens during the spawning when you are running around like a lunatic). I actually had it happen after only 1 fail (not even a death) on a pink secret combat challenge where the worst enemy was a revenant but the revenant (after only 1 fail!!!) never showed up the second attempt.

[CrypticPassage (Is/Eum)]

Originally posted by dagami84:

it definitely does, not sure about slayer gates but it does after 3 or 4 deaths I think... If an arena has 3 mancubi, suddenly there are 2 (and that's just what you can see at the start of the fight who knows what happens during the spawning when you are running around like a lunatic). I actually had it happen after only 1 fail (not even a death) on a pink secret combat challenge where the worst enemy was a revenant but the revenant (after only 1 fail!!!) never showed up the second attempt.

I did have one instance on Nightmare where 2 Cacodemons didn’t show up when they were supposed to on Exultia however I never died prior to that, and I also didn’t notice any changes in enemies from that point forward. It could have just been a bug or something

[xxxIndyxxx]

I don't think so because it was a thing I didn't like in doom 2016 either. That being said this one (that I like way more than doom 2016) is certainly way more buggier so I don' rule it out :D

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Looking into it you really cant find anything that exist for this besides a prealpha build of doom 2016 which made reference to it... no test to prove it exist either....

You sure it was a thing in 2016? Because i remember dying a lot and not having things removed from that area same for eternal i had problems with a certain room and i dont rememeber things being removed to make it eaiser......

Id need actual proof to believe adapative difficulity exist.... even more so with how many settings there is to begin with...

[xxxIndyxxx]

well everybody noticed it on my stream on both doom 2016 and eternal. So it's not just me hallucinating :D

[xxxIndyxxx]

But yes I have been looking for proof too (unsuccesfully) so I know how exactly it works so I can avoid it by stopping the game before it happens or something so it resets.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by dagami84:

well everybody noticed it on my stream on both doom 2016 and eternal. So it's not just me hallucinating :D

I mean you say that but apparently no one else in the world is saying that as there is absolutely no proof of it for me to look into it unless i go and do my own test which i already believe i have.

I died 7 times in a room in part 1 of mission 12 because if i didnt get a certain glory kill i just let them kill me. I memorized every enemy in the room and they all appeared....

And doom 2016 i remember dying on purpose on nightmare to farm for weapon upgrades and not once saw an enemy magically be removed....

[xxxIndyxxx]

hmmm weird, I am not saying you are lieing at all but neither am I so i need to look into this a bit more.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by dagami84:

hmmm weird, I am not saying you are lieing at all but neither am I so i need to look into this a bit more.

I'm simply saying that you are the first person I've heard from bring this up and the only thing that seems to exist on the topic is a reddit post talking about a pre-alpha build of doom 2016 being datamined.

[xxxIndyxxx]

the last time it happened was when I was replaying the arctic base (not sure of the name, one of the early levels) on nightmare. One of the outside arenas has like 3 mancubi at the start and one of them is right next to you on your left when you enter the arena. after 3 deaths because I was trying some stuff, that one next to you was gone so that one was a bit hard to miss... but again it could just be bugs but it would be weird.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by dagami84:

the last time it happened was when I was replaying the arctic base (not sure of the name, one of the early levels) on nightmare. One of the outside arenas has like 3 mancubi at the start and one of them is right next to you on your left when you enter the arena. after 3 deaths because I was trying some stuff, that one next to you was gone so that one was a bit hard to miss... but again it could just be bugs but it would be weird.

Yeah, so im glad you brought that up. That is Cultist base and I remember that section VERY well because my first run on nightmare i died more than a few times. I never had a reduction in mancubi at all..... i mean ill go load it up and try though, i'll post my results.

That area by the way is the first time you get the rocket launcher and has a crane above with a megasphere im pretty sure. A bunch of gargoyles and 1 cacodemon.

[xxxIndyxxx]

hmm yes please let me know, because I just got more interested in the whole thing a lot more due to this discussion as well :D