Can't replay missions after game completion [Extra Life Mode]

[Liquidator]

So apparently if you play on Extra Life Mode, without any warnings, you are not allowed to replay missions! I didn't know this until I finished the game and I still couldn't replay missions (thought it would unlock after game completion). This is just really bad, makes the mode disposable even though it should be more rewarding.

People defend this and say "the made it like that so people won't abuse it and get infinite lives" then why not just either disable respawn of extra lives in mission replays or just allow mission replay after game completion as a reward?

The worst part is that, if that was their intention, they completely failed because you can still play master levels and get infinite lives there! Developers, please fix this. I really want to go back and replay missions without starting an easier campaign and doing everything all over again!

[Eisen]

It makes sense, but I didn't know either. ♥♥♥♥. Restart-time I guess. Was looking forward to explore the levels fully, after finishing.

[Liquidator]

Originally posted by Iron:

It makes sense, but I didn't know either. ♥♥♥♥. Restart-time I guess. Was looking forward to explore the levels fully, after finishing.

How does it make sense? It makes no sense at all that they've done this of all things.

[Eisen]

Originally posted by Liquidator:

Originally posted by Iron:

It makes sense, but I didn't know either. ♥♥♥♥. Restart-time I guess. Was looking forward to explore the levels fully, after finishing.

How does it make sense? It makes no sense at all that they've done this of all things.

Because the Extra Life Mode is not designed for perfectionism. It's designed for attrition.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originally posted by Liquidator:

Originally posted by Iron:

It makes sense, but I didn't know either. ♥♥♥♥. Restart-time I guess. Was looking forward to explore the levels fully, after finishing.

How does it make sense? It makes no sense at all that they've done this of all things.

well it makes sense otherwise you can just go back into easy lvls and farm lifes then the mode is completley obsolete

[Liquidator]

Originally posted by Troja:

Originally posted by Liquidator:

How does it make sense? It makes no sense at all that they've done this of all things.

well it makes sense otherwise you can just go back into easy lvls and farm lifes then the mode is completley obsolete

Did you even read what I wrote? You can still do that for master levels where you can just run and grab the lives and dash for the end. It just doesn't make sense.

[Liquidator]

Originally posted by Iron:

Originally posted by Liquidator:

How does it make sense? It makes no sense at all that they've done this of all things.

Because the Extra Life Mode is not designed for perfectionism. It's designed for attrition.

You can design it for attrition and still allow people to go back and have more fun with the game, it's not one or the other. Did you read what I wrote? They could lock the lives like other collectibles so you won't abuse, while also not completely banning players from ever replaying missions without even telling them.

[tojo]

big bruh moment, noticed this after finishing the game in extra life mode with nightmare difficulty. Apparently playing extra life mode is definetely not rewarding and i have to start all over with campaign only to complete missing parts. Agreed to OP

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

What's even worse is that this happens on ultra nightmare. The moment you beat the game, you're stuck in the hub and lose your save file once you quit back. Which is just awful.

[Liquidator]

I can't believe they never fixed this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, lol.

[Grampire]

Edit: UGH This is a 4.75 year old necro. F me. I hate Steam forums so much.

Extra life mode and Ultra Nightmare are challenge runs - essentially mutators of the main campaign. In both cases campaign levels are meant to be played sequentially. That means you can miss stuff, and that's part of their design and challenge.

It would give less weight to the modes if you could just "redo" and explore each level when you complete it.

They're not designed to be a full-featured playthrough of the game.

If you want to explore the game and replay levels you should have started a normal nightmare playthrough.

They don't need to fix this. This is how these modes have worked for almost 5 years. If you dont like it - find a mod or make one yourself.

[<#76428a>Sharkbilby]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Extra life mode and Ultra Nightmare are challenge runs - essentially mutators of the main campaign. In both cases campaign levels are meant to be played sequentially. That means you can miss stuff, and that's part of their design and challenge.

It would give less weight to the modes if you could just "redo" and explore each level when you complete it.

The whole problem is the fact that your entire ultra nightmare run goes to waste the moment you finish. It'd be nice if you could do at least something with it, because nothing feels the same as playing through final sin with one life or all of your progress is gone. It'd be nice to have to lose before replaying the main campaign again.

Originally posted by Grampire:

They're not designed to be a full-featured playthrough of the game.

If you want to explore the game and replay levels you should have started a normal nightmare playthrough.

The difficulties specifically tell you this and I highly doubt anyone would choose to play extra life or especially ultra nightmare on their first playthrough.

Originally posted by Grampire:

If you dont like it - find a mod or make one yourself.

There are no mods on the mod browser that add such a feature and making this possible is much tougher than you realise. Besides, this discussion is asking why such a feature is purposefully left out and not a reward on campaign completion.

If you believe your solution is so realistic, why don't you link us a mod that proves so?

[Liquidator]

Originally posted by Grampire:

Edit: UGH This is a 4.75 year old necro. F me. I hate Steam forums so much.

Extra life mode and Ultra Nightmare are challenge runs - essentially mutators of the main campaign. In both cases campaign levels are meant to be played sequentially. That means you can miss stuff, and that's part of their design and challenge.

It would give less weight to the modes if you could just "redo" and explore each level when you complete it.

They're not designed to be a full-featured playthrough of the game.

If you want to explore the game and replay levels you should have started a normal nightmare playthrough.

They don't need to fix this. This is how these modes have worked for almost 5 years. If you dont like it - find a mod or make one yourself.

Such a stupid post. I don't even know where to begin. Did you even read what I'm saying? You can still REDO Master levels and exploit them for lives. This mode was just an after thought that they never went back to fix. You hate steam forums so much, why even bother with these posts?

[Hundinger]

Originally posted by Liquidator:

Originally posted by Grampire:

Edit: UGH This is a 4.75 year old necro. F me. I hate Steam forums so much.

Extra life mode and Ultra Nightmare are challenge runs - essentially mutators of the main campaign. In both cases campaign levels are meant to be played sequentially. That means you can miss stuff, and that's part of their design and challenge.

It would give less weight to the modes if you could just "redo" and explore each level when you complete it.

They're not designed to be a full-featured playthrough of the game.

If you want to explore the game and replay levels you should have started a normal nightmare playthrough.

They don't need to fix this. This is how these modes have worked for almost 5 years. If you dont like it - find a mod or make one yourself.

Such a stupid post. I don't even know where to begin. Did you even read what I'm saying? You can still REDO Master levels and exploit them for lives. This mode was just an after thought that they never went back to fix. You hate steam forums so much, why even bother with these posts?

He's right about one thing though: if you could go back to earlier levels to farm extra lives, it would just defeat the purpose of a permadeath mode, and that's what Extra Life Mode is. Why don't you play a regular campaign and use this as your 100 % file?

edit: yes it wouldn't defeat the purpose of the mode if you could go back AFTER completion, but it might be hard to do technically? I don't know. But who cares really? Just get yourself a regular save.

[Liquidator]

Originally posted by Hundinger:

Originally posted by Liquidator:

Such a stupid post. I don't even know where to begin. Did you even read what I'm saying? You can still REDO Master levels and exploit them for lives. This mode was just an after thought that they never went back to fix. You hate steam forums so much, why even bother with these posts?

He's right about one thing though: if you could go back to earlier levels to farm extra lives, it would just defeat the purpose of a permadeath mode, and that's what Extra Life Mode is. Why don't you play a regular campaign and use this as your 100 % file?

edit: yes it wouldn't defeat the purpose of the mode if you could go back AFTER completion, but it might be hard to do technically? I don't know. But who cares really? Just get yourself a regular save.

That's what I ended up doing, but playing regular campaign just doesn't give the same adrenaline of the extra life mode. That's the whole issue here.

[Hundinger]

Originally posted by Liquidator:

Originally posted by Hundinger:

He's right about one thing though: if you could go back to earlier levels to farm extra lives, it would just defeat the purpose of a permadeath mode, and that's what Extra Life Mode is. Why don't you play a regular campaign and use this as your 100 % file?

edit: yes it wouldn't defeat the purpose of the mode if you could go back AFTER completion, but it might be hard to do technically? I don't know. But who cares really? Just get yourself a regular save.

That's what I ended up doing, but playing regular campaign just doesn't give the same adrenaline of the extra life mode. That's the whole issue here.

But how does replaying levels in Extra Life give you adrenaline? Once it's over, it's over. I personally have one regular 100 percent save and I use the other two slots for other stuff, like extra life or UN. When those are done they are done and get deleted.