why don't people like the platforming?

[leaf dog]

It's fun as hell to dash over long jumps, a nice interlude in between combat and I think the difficulty of the jumping puzzles were perfect - I'm super happy that they didn't try to dumb the platforming down to "occasionally climb this one wall". I was very rarely confused as to where the next climbable wall was and I thought the addition of the monkey bars in some of the arenas made for some interesting mobility and they've saved my life on multiple occasions.

When I read some of the negative reviews I think "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, did I play a completely different game than these people?"

[DeadSlash]

People don't buy Doom for the platforming. If Diablo 4 came out and it was an FPS, people would be raging. Would it be a valid question to ask "I don't understand, Diablo 4 is a good FPS, why don't people like that?"

[leaf dog]

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

People don't buy Doom for the platforming. If Diablo 4 came out and it was an FPS, people would be raging. Would it be a valid question to ask "I don't understand, Diablo 4 is a good FPS, why don't people like that?"

But... the platforming doesn't interfere with the combat. It's still an FPS.

[gZes Deuce]

I personally love the platforming. Gives the game a metroid prime vibe

[DeadSlash]

People don't buy Doom for platforming. It doesn't matter is it's good platforming, or bad platforming, it's not what people who like the franchise want or expect.

If you don't get it, you don't get it. You asked, you got an answer.

[ForsakenEagle]

Doom 1 had platforming...

[nakoda]

Originally posted by gZes Deuce:

I personally love the platforming. Gives the game a metroid prime vibe

this, for me, exactly. i get that smooth vibe of verticality and control over the arenas.

[PyroPepper-Cuno]

Originally posted by leaf dog:

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

People don't buy Doom for the platforming. If Diablo 4 came out and it was an FPS, people would be raging. Would it be a valid question to ask "I don't understand, Diablo 4 is a good FPS, why don't people like that?"

But... the platforming doesn't interfere with the combat. It's still an FPS.

Platforming actually complements the Run&Gun action of DOOM imo.

[HelloHi]

they like to pretend like a huge part of the game is platforming, when it’s just used sparsely for downtime so you don’t get bombarded with combat arenas, which keeps the pace of the game fresh. plus a platforming segment only takes like a minute lol

[Butts McGee]

The platforming would be great as a break, a little cooldown from all the combat.

The problem is there's WAY too much "cooldown".

In fact, 90% of the damned game is platforming. 5 minutes of platforming followed by 60 seconds of combat, rinse and repeat.

I'm sure if you don't mind games like Uncharted or Tomb Raider or Fallen Order, all that platforming isn't so bad, and you get rewarded with a little taste of combat crack after each platforming segment. So, I think like 90% of the population is gonna be okay with it.

But there's a slice of us out there who absolutely hate, hate, hate, hate, hate games like Uncharted and Tomb Raider. I bought this expecting... well, DOOM. Not Drake's Deception.

Originally posted by HelloHi:

they like to pretend like a huge part of the game is platforming, when it’s just used sparsely for downtime so you don’t get bombarded with combat arenas, which keeps the pace of the game fresh. plus a platforming segment only takes like a minute lol

Sparsely my butt. In the six hours I played before I gave up on this thing, FIVE of those hours were spent outside of combat. The game is literally almost 90% platforming for your first playthrough!

[nakoda]

"way too much platforming" "way too much chainsawing"

way too much whinging

[ongalagonga]

I'm loving the platforming and agree with the Metroid Prime comparison and thats a good thing! Some people need to give the game a chance. Its not exactly the same as Doom 2016 so its takes some getting used to. Some of the battles are frustrating to begin with but addictive to keep trying and you get better and better as you figure out strategies and used to an area. When you get good at it and are zooming around jumping all over the place, swinging from things and kicking ass its an amazing feeling!

[The Happy Friar]

Another "metroid prime" vibe here. I'm getting used to the flying around. I want a Wii-mote to point at things and swing on then. When's Samus showing up to help clean things up? :)

In all seriousness, D2 had platforming all over, much more then D1.

[leaf dog]

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

People don't buy Doom for platforming. It doesn't matter is it's good platforming, or bad platforming, it's not what people who like the franchise want or expect.

If you don't get it, you don't get it. You asked, you got an answer.

That's a strong generalization. *Nobody* who likes the franchise wants platforming? I like the franchise and I thought it was a welcome addition. Should we treat any game mechanic that wasn't in the first few doom games in this manner?

[nakoda]

it's called a "no true scotsman" fallacy. "no true scotsman drinks irish whiskey!"

"no true DOOM fan likes platforming!"

[Fanne]

uuuuaaaahhhaaa tarzan swings around the corners , no go for a real doom, play the first one and pess the jump button >;P
I have to see if I continue, my pace got taken away, no enemys to kill for more than a minute bah !