Are the Angels Villains? (not bait)

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

So, I'm a Christian, and I had no problem playing DOOM 2016; slaughtering the forces of evil as an unstoppable superhero was a dream come true. However, the trailers suggested that in DOOM Eternal, the Angels are the villains, and you're supposed to fight them. Is this true? If Angels are evil, I don't think I could stomach slaughtering beings I revere. It would be like the torture scene from GTAV all over again.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Bump. I know it's bad form to do so, but I want to know before purchasing the game.

[Tweezers]

Originally posted by Felix Argyle:

So, I'm a Christian, .

Felix Argyle

idiot catholicos strikes again

[creatorcray]

A liiiiiitle bit of spoilers





These are not really angels, just some creatures that have an armor which remotely resembles human beliefs how angels should look like.

[kingfish_ak]

This is a game not a documentary.

[Satsuryokoi]

Originally posted by creatorcray:

A liiiiiitle bit of spoilers





These are not really angels, just some creatures that have an armor which remotely resembles human beliefs how angels should look like.

yes, and you only encounter one, the whole game you just kill demons till the end

[Snow]

Maybe stop projecting your beliefs on games that are purely fictional? I doubt the "Angels" from your thing are a mechanical race of sentient beings.

[KaaBeli]

Yeah im just gonna facepalm here now... Too fun tbh

[Yuga-Suggah]

Originally posted by Snow:

Maybe stop projecting your beliefs on games that are purely fictional? I doubt the "Angels" from your thing are a mechanical race of sentient beings.

Eh I don't really know if its projecting especially when things look kind of celestial. But Devil May Cry had a couple of enemies that kinda looked like angels but where in fact really high level demons. And Bayonnetta does have angels but its more like enemies were Extreme Law and Extreme Chaos more than Good and Evil.

Sandy Peterson, who is the most prolific map designer in Doom 2, is a Mormon and he basically said that doom was a cartoon where you kill demons. So if you want some sembalance of where Christians stand on Doom, why not ask him how he feels?

[Snow]

Originally posted by Yuga-Suggah:

Originally posted by Snow:

Maybe stop projecting your beliefs on games that are purely fictional? I doubt the "Angels" from your thing are a mechanical race of sentient beings.

Eh I don't really know if its projecting especially when things look kind of celestial. But Devil May Cry had a couple of enemies that kinda looked like angels but where in fact really high level demons. And Bayonnetta does have angels but its more like enemies were Extreme Law and Extreme Chaos more than Good and Evil.

Sandy Peterson, who is the most prolific map designer in Doom 2, is a Mormon and he basically said that doom was a cartoon where you kill demons. So if you want some sembalance of where Christians stand on Doom, why not ask him how he feels?

That's what I mean by projecting, though. Just take the game as a fictional comic shooter (which it is) and enjoy it regardless of where you stand.

[Yuga-Suggah]

Originally posted by Snow:

Originally posted by Yuga-Suggah:

Eh I don't really know if its projecting especially when things look kind of celestial. But Devil May Cry had a couple of enemies that kinda looked like angels but where in fact really high level demons. And Bayonnetta does have angels but its more like enemies were Extreme Law and Extreme Chaos more than Good and Evil.

Sandy Peterson, who is the most prolific map designer in Doom 2, is a Mormon and he basically said that doom was a cartoon where you kill demons. So if you want some sembalance of where Christians stand on Doom, why not ask him how he feels?

That's what I mean by projecting, though. Just take the game as a fictional comic shooter (which it is) and enjoy it regardless of where you stand.

Well again, projection is somewhat the same as testing belief systems. Faith is really no different than shibbolethian forum culture or pattern based judgement. You an argue that everything should be taken at an individual case which follows peer revision style thinking, but that's not really human psychology. People take short cuts, and belief informs what shortcuts to take. Projection is just "I see this, I want to test if I am right or (hopefully) wrong." Saying to not project kinda defeats the purpose to learn.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Thanks for the response guys. The reason I ask is NOT because I'm trying be all moral panic and whatnot, but because I know that killing enemies that resemble beings I revere, even if only superficially, would make me feel sick. I don't condemn the game, nor anyone who plays it; this is just for my own personal benefit, so I don't find myself physically unable to finish the game when I'm already at the end.

[Morthoseth]

Angels are not real.

[Stone Cold Stavros Flatley]

Originally posted by Yuga-Suggah:

Originally posted by Snow:

That's what I mean by projecting, though. Just take the game as a fictional comic shooter (which it is) and enjoy it regardless of where you stand.

Well again, projection is somewhat the same as testing belief systems. Faith is really no different than shibbolethian forum culture or pattern based judgement. You an argue that everything should be taken at an individual case which follows peer revision style thinking, but that's not really human psychology. People take short cuts, and belief informs what shortcuts to take. Projection is just "I see this, I want to test if I am right or (hopefully) wrong." Saying to not project kinda defeats the purpose to learn.

How long have you waited to use "shibbolethian" in a sentence? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[worm]

As a Christian, you know 1/3 of the angels in the Bible are in fact evil, right? Also Satan being a cherub himself?

[Yuga-Suggah]

Originally posted by Stone Cold Stavros Flatley:

Originally posted by Yuga-Suggah:

Well again, projection is somewhat the same as testing belief systems. Faith is really no different than shibbolethian forum culture or pattern based judgement. You an argue that everything should be taken at an individual case which follows peer revision style thinking, but that's not really human psychology. People take short cuts, and belief informs what shortcuts to take. Projection is just "I see this, I want to test if I am right or (hopefully) wrong." Saying to not project kinda defeats the purpose to learn.

How long have you waited to use "shibbolethian" in a sentence? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Lol I know right? It's just a $10 word to say that its a group of people confirming the same thoughts. A 1 cent version of that word is "circle jerking".