Does this game use Denuvo?

[Zer0]

I am NOT looking for your opinion on DRM. I simply do not buy games with Denuvo. If yes, I'll pass. If no, I'll buy. If you don't share that opinion that's totally fair. I do not want this thread to be about pros and cons of DRM.

I ask because usually steam includes a "third party DRM" section on the store page (which there is none) but I have heard others confirm it does use Denuvo.

Again, my only question is whether this does, or does not, use Denuvo.

If yes, why doesn't steam store note this like all others? Thanks.

[GrumpyPirate™]

I would very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ much like to know this as well because the game has been listed since it became visible as without denuvo and now suddenly denuvo information starts surfacing on the net to the contrary??

I know you are actively competing with EA and Ubisoft for "evil corporation of the year" nowadays bethesda but actively lying about denuvo sounds pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad even for you?!

[King in Yellow]

Despite what some threads in this forum seem to imply, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have Denuvo.

It's not listed on the store page and I don't see why they would try and hide it.

[GrumpyPirate™]

Because companies know that honest consumers despise denuvo and they just ignore it and put it in games anyway to trick more sales. Lying about it is surely taking it one step further though.

[King in Yellow]

Originally posted by GrumpyPirate™:

and now suddenly denuvo information starts surfacing on the net to the contrary??

The only place I saw it mentioned was in this forum and (as usual) no one bothered to provide a source, so I'm tempted to think they just pulled the info out of their arse.

[Snipy]

Originally posted by King in Yellow:

Despite what some threads in this forum seem to imply, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have Denuvo.

It's not listed on the store page and I don't see why they would try and hide it.

It does contain Denuvo
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/doom-eternal-denuvo-offline-mode-pc-graphics-settings-4k-max-settings-performance-impressions/
In order to find out whether the game uses Denuvo, we initially looked at the size of its executable file. As we’ve discovered, the size of the executable file is 434MB. We then got in touch with Bethesda which confirmed its presence in the game. Bethesda has not clarified whether it will remove it at its launch. This could be possible as that’s exactly what happened with RAGE 2. However, and since Wolfenstein: Youngblood is still using Denuvo, I’m pretty sure that Bethesda will keep Denuvo in Doom Eternal for a while.

[davidshaw12345]

Who gives a ♥♥♥♥. It's hardly going to slow this game down and if it stops a few little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from copying it - good.

[⎝⧹TrM⧸⎠]

Yes it does use denuvo same at 90% of triple aaa released games. You souldnt be surprised just use a general rule every game denuvo:) as it more then lucky it has it anyhow

[Zer0]

Originally posted by kmarkopl:

Originally posted by King in Yellow:

Despite what some threads in this forum seem to imply, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have Denuvo.

It's not listed on the store page and I don't see why they would try and hide it.

It does contain Denuvo
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/doom-eternal-denuvo-offline-mode-pc-graphics-settings-4k-max-settings-performance-impressions/
In order to find out whether the game uses Denuvo, we initially looked at the size of its executable file. As we’ve discovered, the size of the executable file is 434MB. We then got in touch with Bethesda which confirmed its presence in the game. Bethesda has not clarified whether it will remove it at its launch. This could be possible as that’s exactly what happened with RAGE 2. However, and since Wolfenstein: Youngblood is still using Denuvo, I’m pretty sure that Bethesda will keep Denuvo in Doom Eternal for a while.

If this is true, which is fine it's their decision, why is this not on the store page? This is something that should be relayed to the consumer, like all other games on Steam that use third-party DRM.

[King in Yellow]

Originally posted by kmarkopl:

It does contain Denuvo
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/doom-eternal-denuvo-offline-mode-pc-graphics-settings-4k-max-settings-performance-impressions/
In order to find out whether the game uses Denuvo, we initially looked at the size of its executable file. As we’ve discovered, the size of the executable file is 434MB. We then got in touch with Bethesda which confirmed its presence in the game. Bethesda has not clarified whether it will remove it at its launch. This could be possible as that’s exactly what happened with RAGE 2. However, and since Wolfenstein: Youngblood is still using Denuvo, I’m pretty sure that Bethesda will keep Denuvo in Doom Eternal for a while.

Considering this is the only article I can find stating that the game has Denuvo, and that I never heard of this website before, I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt.

Also not sure what to make of that "we contacted Bethesda" bit. Kinda looks like you're just trying to promote your own website with a clickbait article.

If the game really had Denuvo I find it really strange your site is the only one supporting that fact.

[Snipy]

Originally posted by King in Yellow:

Originally posted by kmarkopl:

It does contain Denuvo
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/doom-eternal-denuvo-offline-mode-pc-graphics-settings-4k-max-settings-performance-impressions/
In order to find out whether the game uses Denuvo, we initially looked at the size of its executable file. As we’ve discovered, the size of the executable file is 434MB. We then got in touch with Bethesda which confirmed its presence in the game. Bethesda has not clarified whether it will remove it at its launch. This could be possible as that’s exactly what happened with RAGE 2. However, and since Wolfenstein: Youngblood is still using Denuvo, I’m pretty sure that Bethesda will keep Denuvo in Doom Eternal for a while.

Originally posted by Zer0:

If this is true, which is fine it's their decision, why is this not on the store page? This is something that should be relayed to the consumer, like all other games on Steam that use third-party DRM.

Considering this is the only article I can find stating that the game has Denuvo, and that I never heard of this website before, I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt.

Also not sure what to make of that "we contacted Bethesda" bit. Kinda looks like you're just trying to promote your own website with a clickbait article.

If the game really had Denuvo I find it really strange your site is the only one supporting that fact.

on crackwatch is the same

[north]

Originally posted by King in Yellow:

Considering this is the only article I can find stating that the game has Denuvo, and that I never heard of this website before

your ignorance is not an excuse.

[King in Yellow]

Originally posted by north:

Originally posted by King in Yellow:

Considering this is the only article I can find stating that the game has Denuvo, and that I never heard of this website before

your ignorance is not an excuse.

Oooh, edgy.

Go on then, give me a link to an other article stating that the game has Denuvo.

[King in Yellow]

Originally posted by kmarkopl:

on crackwatch is the same

lol okay

Thanks for proving my point. Now you can go back to writing clickbait articles ;)

[Diamond Falcon]

Originally posted by Zer0:

Originally posted by kmarkopl:

It does contain Denuvo
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/doom-eternal-denuvo-offline-mode-pc-graphics-settings-4k-max-settings-performance-impressions/
In order to find out whether the game uses Denuvo, we initially looked at the size of its executable file. As we’ve discovered, the size of the executable file is 434MB. We then got in touch with Bethesda which confirmed its presence in the game. Bethesda has not clarified whether it will remove it at its launch. This could be possible as that’s exactly what happened with RAGE 2. However, and since Wolfenstein: Youngblood is still using Denuvo, I’m pretty sure that Bethesda will keep Denuvo in Doom Eternal for a while.

If this is true, which is fine it's their decision, why is this not on the store page? This is something that should be relayed to the consumer, like all other games on Steam that use third-party DRM.

The main reason its not mentioned on the store page is either simply dev/publisher oversight, or the fact that most triple A devs/pubs know that the mentioning of 3rd party drm negatively affects customer views and can affect launch sales.

That is why over the years they swapped from putting denuvo info from the store page into the eula link instead, it varies form dev to dev but some dont disclose it at all because they know they will get flak from potential customers.

I did think it was a general rule on steam that you had to disclose any 3rd party DRM on the store page of any game, but i dont know if that still a thing as rules can easily be ignored brought out or changed at a moments notice these days.

[King in Yellow]

Originally posted by Diamond Falcon:

The main reason its not mentioned on the store page is either simply dev/publisher oversight, or the fact that most triple A devs/pubs know that the mentioning of 3rd party drm negatively affects customer views and can affect launch sales.

That is why over the years they swapped from putting denuvo info from the store page into the eula link instead, it varies form dev to dev but some dont disclose it at all because they know they will get flak from potential customers.

I did think it was a general rule on steam that you had to disclose any 3rd party DRM on the store page of any game, but i dont know if that still a thing as rules can easily be ignored brought out or changed at a moments notice these days.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1173690/Resident_Evil_3_Raccoon_City_Demo/

Literally came out a couple of hours ago and the store page says it has Denuvo.

It's 2020, maybe it's time to drop the "evil companies" bit. It's getting old.