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Enby Enid Sinclair <3 (TealStar) 2021 年 3 月 12 日 下午 5:50
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Dear Devs, let the hololive people stream this game
that is all
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Yui Δ 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 4:47 
Say Taiwan and everyone in China loses their ♥♥♥♥
Tom Cat 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 7:23 
Yeah, Chinese government is almost on par with the North Korean government. Apparently, they have gaming curfews and some games requires you to register your ID cards to play it, They have a lot of influence on the gaming industry
Shadow_hive[BAKA] 2021 年 4 月 2 日 上午 7:29 
引用自 General Pie
Yeah, Chinese government is almost on par with the North Korean government. Apparently, they have gaming curfews and some games requires you to register your ID cards to play it, They have a lot of influence on the gaming industry
If youre under the age of 18 there, you arent allowed to play more than 2 hours a day and you need an ID to even buy games there
𓂀𓂏𓂀 2021 年 4 月 24 日 下午 7:47 
this is a lot of comments and nobody has said what exactly the "controversy" was. I'm confused.
Cody48er 2021 年 4 月 24 日 下午 8:38 
引用自 Corn Pop
this is a lot of comments and nobody has said what exactly the "controversy" was. I'm confused.
It's been awhile now, but as I recall the Publisher (Publisher, that is X.D. Network, not PeroPero Games) suddenly pulled streaming rights for Hololive, a large, commercial company that employs streamer talent as VTubers.


As to why? It's likely tied to a separate controversy that some of the Hololive talents were involved in months back, regarding an accidental mention of "Taiwan" on a YouTube stream, while reading the YouTube Analytics for where people were watching their stream from. And well, because of the whole "Taiwan vs China" political issue, it upset a large number of Chinese viewers and got a lot of 'antis' from China in those streamer's chat posting spam, threats, cancel culture nonsense and more (This issue is still on-going).

Ironically: YouTube is blocked in China by local government laws. So the people in China are using VPNs to funnel through their nearest server---Taiwan. So those mainland China viewers were the ones appearing as "Taiwan" in Youtube analytics.
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Mid-stream afterthought: Found this link while typing up my reply, which has a later statement from XD Network:
https://nuitetoilenews.tumblr.com/post/634066529412104192/china-bans-hololive-from-broadcasting-muse-dash

So yeah, the whole "National unity" and "Protecting the homeland" stance that, rather they agree with it or not, with XD Network and PeroPero Games being Chinese-based companies, are bound to abide by for risk of losing their livelihood at the hand of Chinese law. And if not directly, there's a mob of people who do nothing but look for things to report and 'reign in' any entity that tries to skirt the line. It sucks balls, but well...That's kind of China for you...Shame so many talented developers are crippled by their homeland.
PJ 2021 年 4 月 28 日 下午 12:03 
This is what nationalism gets you.
安竹鼠 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 2:28 
引用自 Cody48er
引用自 Corn Pop
this is a lot of comments and nobody has said what exactly the "controversy" was. I'm confused.
It's been awhile now, but as I recall the Publisher (Publisher, that is X.D. Network, not PeroPero Games) suddenly pulled streaming rights for Hololive, a large, commercial company that employs streamer talent as VTubers.


As to why? It's likely tied to a separate controversy that some of the Hololive talents were involved in months back, regarding an accidental mention of "Taiwan" on a YouTube stream, while reading the YouTube Analytics for where people were watching their stream from. And well, because of the whole "Taiwan vs China" political issue, it upset a large number of Chinese viewers and got a lot of 'antis' from China in those streamer's chat posting spam, threats, cancel culture nonsense and more (This issue is still on-going).

Ironically: YouTube is blocked in China by local government laws. So the people in China are using VPNs to funnel through their nearest server---Taiwan. So those mainland China viewers were the ones appearing as "Taiwan" in Youtube analytics.
---

Mid-stream afterthought: Found this link while typing up my reply, which has a later statement from XD Network:
https://nuitetoilenews.tumblr.com/post/634066529412104192/china-bans-hololive-from-broadcasting-muse-dash

So yeah, the whole "National unity" and "Protecting the homeland" stance that, rather they agree with it or not, with XD Network and PeroPero Games being Chinese-based companies, are bound to abide by for risk of losing their livelihood at the hand of Chinese law. And if not directly, there's a mob of people who do nothing but look for things to report and 'reign in' any entity that tries to skirt the line. It sucks balls, but well...That's kind of China for you...Shame so many talented developers are crippled by their homeland.
Imao if you don't agree with the nationalism then don't even come and stream in China at all. And you know what hololive did? When they were poor and just starting up, the chinese audience was one of the largest community that supports them with large amounts of money and content creators and people that provides free translations to their videos. Yes for free. They have streams on Bilili with milions of followers who donated so much money. And after hololive gets more and more popular in western community then they just went like oh btw ♥♥♥♥ you nationalism and chinese <3.

I personally dislike nationalism its stupid as f, but you know what's worse? Backstabbing into a community who have gave you so much support when you just started <3. Not everything is about nationalism Imao peropero game is only a content creator that puts their game on steam Imao which isn't even monitored by the chinese govenment. Therefore, why would you give streaming rights to a company that backstabbed most of your gamer community probably even the content creators themselves<3.
安竹鼠 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 2:28 
引用自 latiosu
引用自 xDewritos
It's more of a publisher thing but yeah, I'd love to see them stream again, although it'll probably never happen
Yeah, the developers are the ones that are probably suffering the most from this situation. Imagine that you make all the effort to make a game, it has a moderate success and suddenly it gets super-popular because some famous streamer picks it up. It happened to Among Us, it happened to Goat Simulator and now, it’s happening to you!
You think "Heck yeah! Here we go baby!", then your publisher, the one which is supposed to help you reach to your clients and get sales, decides that no, because some artificial controversy brewed by a group of haters, they ban the streaming to the most reaching showcase of the game.
Then you, as a developer and your game that you put your heart on, not only lose the free exposure but also you gain a lot of undeserved hatred because of this treason.
I would be heartbroken.
Now I think it’s too late. Even if X.D. would allow the streaming of muse dash to the shark & co. they would probably pass as, ironically, Holo always tries to stay away from anything remotely controversial. I am deeply sad for the developers. They didn’t deserve this.
Imao if you don't agree with the nationalism then don't even come and stream in China at all. And you know what hololive did? When they were poor and just starting up, the chinese audience was one of the largest community that supports them with large amounts of money and content creators and people that provides free translations to their videos. Yes for free. They have streams on Bilili with milions of followers who donated so much money. And after hololive gets more and more popular in western community then they just went like oh btw ♥♥♥♥ you nationalism and chinese <3.

I personally dislike nationalism its stupid as f, but you know what's worse? Backstabbing into a community who have gave you so much support when you just started <3. Not everything is about nationalism Imao peropero game is only a content creator that puts their game on steam Imao which isn't even monitored by the chinese govenment. Therefore, why would you give streaming rights to a company that backstabbed most of your gamer community probably even the content creators themselves<3.

If you don't understand sir, there are stuff that you can't trade with money<3.
最後修改者:安竹鼠; 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 2:36
032 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 2:53 
引用自 Stop Simping
Imao if you don't agree with the nationalism then don't even come and stream in China at all. And you know what hololive did? When they were poor and just starting up, the chinese audience was one of the largest community that supports them with large amounts of money and content creators and people that provides free translations to their videos. Yes for free. They have streams on Bilili with milions of followers who donated so much money. And after hololive gets more and more popular in western community then they just went like oh btw ♥♥♥♥ you nationalism and chinese <3.

I personally dislike nationalism its stupid as f, but you know what's worse? Backstabbing into a community who have gave you so much support when you just started <3. Not everything is about nationalism Imao peropero game is only a content creator that puts their game on steam Imao which isn't even monitored by the chinese govenment. Therefore, why would you give streaming rights to a company that backstabbed most of your gamer community probably even the content creators themselves<3.

What is this ""backstab"" you're talking about? When did anyone at Hololive express an opinion about chinese government and nationalism? Why are you making things up?
The only thing they have done was mentioning Taiwan once during a stream and everyone overreacted the same way you're doing right now.
junnichi 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 3:37 
放置すると開発者の生命/財産の危機につながるんでしょうね。しょうがないね。
確認すると、ぐらちゃんの動画も消えてますね。
最後修改者:junnichi; 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 3:39
Kuro_Mori :3 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 4:06 
引用自 Stop Simping
引用自 latiosu
Yeah, the developers are the ones that are probably suffering the most from this situation. Imagine that you make all the effort to make a game, it has a moderate success and suddenly it gets super-popular because some famous streamer picks it up. It happened to Among Us, it happened to Goat Simulator and now, it’s happening to you!
You think "Heck yeah! Here we go baby!", then your publisher, the one which is supposed to help you reach to your clients and get sales, decides that no, because some artificial controversy brewed by a group of haters, they ban the streaming to the most reaching showcase of the game.
Then you, as a developer and your game that you put your heart on, not only lose the free exposure but also you gain a lot of undeserved hatred because of this treason.
I would be heartbroken.
Now I think it’s too late. Even if X.D. would allow the streaming of muse dash to the shark & co. they would probably pass as, ironically, Holo always tries to stay away from anything remotely controversial. I am deeply sad for the developers. They didn’t deserve this.
Imao if you don't agree with the nationalism then don't even come and stream in China at all. And you know what hololive did? When they were poor and just starting up, the chinese audience was one of the largest community that supports them with large amounts of money and content creators and people that provides free translations to their videos. Yes for free. They have streams on Bilili with milions of followers who donated so much money. And after hololive gets more and more popular in western community then they just went like oh btw ♥♥♥♥ you nationalism and chinese <3.

I personally dislike nationalism its stupid as f, but you know what's worse? Backstabbing into a community who have gave you so much support when you just started <3. Not everything is about nationalism Imao peropero game is only a content creator that puts their game on steam Imao which isn't even monitored by the chinese govenment. Therefore, why would you give streaming rights to a company that backstabbed most of your gamer community probably even the content creators themselves<3.

If you don't understand sir, there are stuff that you can't trade with money<3.



If you really think THAT'S what happened, you need to actually go back and look at what happened. The entire controversy was literally just that Coco talked about her Youtube analytics on stream, and showed something showing where her viewers watched from, and made an observation that a lot of people were watching from taiwan, which is what YOUTUBE called it in the information regardless. This literally happened because Coco said Taiwan ONCE on a stream, for which she was banned from streaming for two weeks, and an entire formal apology was given by Cover Corp., though nothing wrong was done. If uttering a single word is considered backstabbing to you, i worry that people walk on eggshells around you 24/7....
Shadow_hive[BAKA] 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 4:55 
引用自 Stop Simping
引用自 latiosu
Yeah, the developers are the ones that are probably suffering the most from this situation. Imagine that you make all the effort to make a game, it has a moderate success and suddenly it gets super-popular because some famous streamer picks it up. It happened to Among Us, it happened to Goat Simulator and now, it’s happening to you!
You think "Heck yeah! Here we go baby!", then your publisher, the one which is supposed to help you reach to your clients and get sales, decides that no, because some artificial controversy brewed by a group of haters, they ban the streaming to the most reaching showcase of the game.
Then you, as a developer and your game that you put your heart on, not only lose the free exposure but also you gain a lot of undeserved hatred because of this treason.
I would be heartbroken.
Now I think it’s too late. Even if X.D. would allow the streaming of muse dash to the shark & co. they would probably pass as, ironically, Holo always tries to stay away from anything remotely controversial. I am deeply sad for the developers. They didn’t deserve this.
Imao if you don't agree with the nationalism then don't even come and stream in China at all. And you know what hololive did? When they were poor and just starting up, the chinese audience was one of the largest community that supports them with large amounts of money and content creators and people that provides free translations to their videos. Yes for free. They have streams on Bilili with milions of followers who donated so much money. And after hololive gets more and more popular in western community then they just went like oh btw ♥♥♥♥ you nationalism and chinese <3.

I personally dislike nationalism its stupid as f, but you know what's worse? Backstabbing into a community who have gave you so much support when you just started <3. Not everything is about nationalism Imao peropero game is only a content creator that puts their game on steam Imao which isn't even monitored by the chinese govenment. Therefore, why would you give streaming rights to a company that backstabbed most of your gamer community probably even the content creators themselves<3.

If you don't understand sir, there are stuff that you can't trade with money<3.
ok, so calling Taiwan a country counts as backstabbing now? Alright, ccp shill
PJ 2021 年 4 月 30 日 上午 6:07 
引用自 Stop Simping
I personally dislike nationalism its stupid as f, but you know what's worse? Backstabbing into a community who have gave you so much support when you just started <3. Not everything is about nationalism Imao peropero game is only a content creator that puts their game on steam Imao which isn't even monitored by the chinese govenment. Therefore, why would you give streaming rights to a company that backstabbed most of your gamer community probably even the content creators themselves<3.

Saying the word "Taiwan" is 'backstabbing the chinese community'? Hey guys, I found the Chinese Nationalist.
Tom Cat 2021 年 5 月 1 日 上午 5:22 
Chinese laws can be pretty scary. In fact, if enough people of Chinese Citizens complain about a company, the government can shut them down and be done with it. Which probably means we can no longer play Muse Dash or have Muse Dash be updated ever again.

So, I can understand why they don't let Hololive stream the game anymore really. It is just that bad, China indoctrinating its citizen to be Nationalistic is good and all but when Radicalism and Extremism gets into the mix, it tends to crush innovation and creativity as well as arts since Extreme nationalism would go all "You're not nationalistic!", "Your art sucks since it doesn't represent China well!", "How dare you create things that is not nationalistic!", "How dare the game depict something other than China!", etc. The fact that China also has their own set of factions that go undercover to report potentially "Subversive Activities" to the government doesn't help game companies who wants to create things that is more "Radical" in nature. If any game companies made a slip up then those factions can create a momentum by appealing to the nationalistic citizens that this company is depicting China poorly and then have them complain to the government to have it shut down, but with radicalism, they can end up getting their company set on fire, sent death threat, or mobbed. Seriously scary stuff. In order to protect themselves, such extreme measures must be taken too
Rikkuna 2021 年 5 月 2 日 下午 3:13 
Agreed. ♥♥♥♥ the CCP. Taiwan #1 keep this thread up top of discussion.
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