Is solo skirmish bugged or what?

[Airkixer]

Why the ♥♥♥♥ is it spawning in a 1000 enemies every second? I killed 854 enemies before even wave 10, and my screen is still full to the brim with enemies and specials everywhere. What the ♥♥♥♥ is even going on? What's the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ point?

[Kill with Fire]

It depends on your map I believe, on the smaller maps and Facility it spawns more lower quality mutants so they're flooding the map more.

[Airkixer]

Yea this was everything. There was an unstoppable amount of trash and several specials all at once. I ran out of ammo before wave 4 and spent most of the rest of the waves hiding behind turrets and running away. Waste of time.

[Dutchoper72]

Difficulty, the map, and also mission are the factors at play here.

[Aksamitny Grzmot]

Originally posted by Airkixer:

Why the ♥♥♥♥ is it spawning in a 1000 enemies every second? I killed 854 enemies before even wave 10, and my screen is still full to the brim with enemies and specials everywhere. What the ♥♥♥♥ is even going on? What's the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ point?

Skirmish seems to be designed mostly around the multiplayer. I finished it few times on normal difficulty, but I never managed to get to evac on hard difficulty, even trying different setups. The rank system requiring solo players to finish skirmishes on Nightmare difficulty seems like a freaking joke.

[Katitoff]

Skirmish spawns depend on multiple things, your profile level, group size, difficulty, infestation level, even map (there is one small map that constantly spawns trash at you).

[Odzianna]

Maps like Outskirts and Consul Outpost usually have massive spawns of low level enemies. You can pretty much double that amount if you stand on creep (the fleshy ground biomass produces), so either stay clear of that as long as you can or, better, destroy every biomass you see.

If you play solo, grab the maximum amount of bots, 3, and get used to ordering them around, it really increases your chances and speeds up exploration. The Demo bot also has a passive ability that nukes biomass randomly, so if you play with 3 or more biomass, either get weapons that help with that, like flamethrowers or rockets, or grab a Demo bot.

Destroying biomass also temporarily halts the wave timer, which means less special enemies to fight for you

[Airkixer]

Nah, I refuse to believe it was how it's meant to be. I know how the game works. I played the same map, the same mission, the same difficulty settings, fixed waves, solo/8man squad. We all stuck together and there was just no where near the amount of enemies coming at us compared to solo. And it wasn't just because we could deal with it all faster. There were clear moments to actually breath with next to nothing coming at us.

[q4TEKS]

Originally posted by Airkixer:

I played the same map, the same mission, the same difficulty settings, fixed waves, solo/8man squad.

what was the proper mission setup?

[Airkixer]

Desert colony, Shot in the Dark, Very Hard. Infestation 5, secondary missions few, air support heavy, horde arrival early, artillery support none.

Not that this should even matter as I just said, I played the exact same settings solo(twice), and then with an 8 man squad, and saw two completely different sides of the coin.

[q4TEKS]

Originally posted by Airkixer:

..Not that this should even matter as I just said..

it does matter alot. without players who loot the bots get too little secondary ammo for this map, with hellfire bot, terminator bot and medic bot it is very difficult to do, but you can not rely on secondary ammo. hellfire with armor shredder mod on autocanon and terminator with rivnik with armor shredder, medic with hpr viking (all 3 bots maxed profile, general rank). the map is absolutely not suitable for solo and is basically +1 difficulty.

[Airkixer]

I'm not asking why it was hard or how to make it possible, I'm asking why playing solo spawned 10x as many enemies as I was seeing playing with a full squad. I wasn't even using ai, I was ENTIRELY solo, and there were an inconceivable amount of enemies coming at me, constantly.

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by Airkixer:

I'm not asking why it was hard or how to make it possible, I'm asking why playing solo spawned 10x as many enemies as I was seeing playing with a full squad. I wasn't even using ai, I was ENTIRELY solo, and there were an inconceivable amount of enemies coming at me, constantly.

If you're playing with bots, you're not playing solo, while bots do not count for full player, they still count and increase difficulty. Not taking AoE skills or weapons will also hurt you on the long run, regardless of map.

[Airkixer]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

If you're playing with bots, you're not playing solo, while bots do not count for full player, they still count and increase difficulty. Not taking AoE skills or weapons will also hurt you on the long run, regardless of map.

Right so. As I said. I was playing entirely solo. So Me. All by myself. NO ai. Why was there 1000 enemies on my screen by wave 3+?

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by Airkixer:

Originally posted by Katitoff:

If you're playing with bots, you're not playing solo, while bots do not count for full player, they still count and increase difficulty. Not taking AoE skills or weapons will also hurt you on the long run, regardless of map.

Right so. As I said. I was playing entirely solo. So Me. All by myself. NO ai. Why was there 1000 enemies on my screen by wave 3+?

Because when you are low level going in solo, game spawns a lot of trash desecrators who die to a sneeze.

[Airkixer]

Yea, I wish that was all it spawned. I was running turret engineer/lmg energy crit assault. Except it was throwing high threats at me non-stop too, everything short of bosses.