Smalland: Survive the Wilds

Smalland: Survive the Wilds

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4/dez./2023 às 7:57
Dedicated Servers Are Coming on December 11th
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recki 7/dez./2023 às 1:43 
Good Choice with G-portal. Others will follow, im totally fine with that!
Kixel 7/dez./2023 às 10:29 
I really was excited to spin this up on my server on the 11th - but hell nah, I ain't renting a game server for 11€ if I have the hardware at home.

Just a thought for the release: Release it as a docker image (or similar) so hosting is as simple as can be!
Godbrithil 7/dez./2023 às 12:08 
GPortal are the best choice. Keep up the good work!
lworps 7/dez./2023 às 14:37 
well thats sucks about them not allowing private servers..i know my two channels were hopeful cant say we will return..g-portal are crooks..imagine being a smaller studio than snail studios thinking this will work to bring back player base that has since stopped playing. like Snail you missed the point of us asking for private hosting.
Raithon 7/dez./2023 às 14:38 
Escrito originalmente por recki:
Good Choice with G-portal. Others will follow, im totally fine with that!
Escrito originalmente por Godbrithil:
GPortal are the best choice. Keep up the good work!
No, G-Portal isn't the best choice. Of any hosting service I have ever used, these guys have the absolute worst support, and performance is usually questionable.

I have been waiting for the dedicated servers to be available so my friend can set one up for us to play on. Until that happens, I will not be making a purchase.

Since I can clearly see that the developer does not really care about the community, we may just skip this game. Along with anything else from Merge in the future.
Escrito originalmente por Raithon:
Escrito originalmente por recki:
Good Choice with G-portal. Others will follow, im totally fine with that!
Escrito originalmente por Godbrithil:
GPortal are the best choice. Keep up the good work!
No, G-Portal isn't the best choice. Of any hosting service I have ever used, these guys have the absolute worst support, and performance is usually questionable.

I have been waiting for the dedicated servers to be available so my friend can set one up for us to play on. Until that happens, I will not be making a purchase.

Since I can clearly see that the developer does not really care about the community, we may just skip this game. Along with anything else from Merge in the future.
Or you can relax and come back once they release it
King 7/dez./2023 às 19:00 
There are no extra files to work on if you have them on G portal server. That statement is nothing but a lie and I can not believe that you would think no one would call you out on it. G portal don't have anything special that is not part of a normal pc. Just say that you giving them a chance to make money. Don't lie about the files
Cortex56 8/dez./2023 às 18:38 
Escrito originalmente por Gabetono:
G-Portal as a host for there dedicated servers and they are - in my opinion - rough server hosts.
I agree, once they open things up to other hosts, I'll give it a shot. Not going to waste money on G-Portal though.
EvilGlare 8/dez./2023 às 21:39 
LOL so im selfish? when i rent the sever,my friends will be able to play for free,no raiders alowd! The cost is on me.Why am I renting a 24/7 server? each computer has A power regulator,as we run our computers, it wares out.When it breaks down,power serges hapen damaging the part with in ones computer.The self hosted soft ware is the best way to kill your computer power regulator that must run 24/7 to be A true sever.The ones who want it free can smack talk me all they want as they kill there computer faster,those who can think & resion will see through there lies,half the rented sever haters are just Raiders angry at there rain of raiding ending with the good mats & bigger builds no longer being at there finger tips.The same goes for the tame killers,they will be left out in the cold as well with rented severs having clear rules as to what is not permited :)
EvilGlare 8/dez./2023 às 21:43 
As to the G-portal haters,G-portal stepped up ware others did not.Good things happen to those who wait,Great thing happen to those who DO !
Syngyl 9/dez./2023 às 6:23 
Escrito originalmente por EvilGlare:
each computer has A power regulator,as we run our computers, it wares out.When it breaks down,power serges hapen damaging the part with in ones computer.The self hosted soft ware is the best way to kill your computer power regulator that must run 24/7 to be A true sever.
So thats not how it works... Realistically speaking the only parts of a pc that are going to have wear from being on 24/7 are moving parts. That would be fans and HDD which I wouldn't be using anyways. Things like cpu, motherboard, ssd and ram don't really have issues with degradation and will often just outlive their usefulness. Also surge protectors are a thing... All that being said, I and many others would be using an old pc to run the server so if something managed to go wrong it wouldn't be an issue and its already hosted my servers long enough to have paid for itself multiple times over. Also all of the clear rules you want would not be exclusive to a paid service, anyone hosting should be able to do the same things a third party host has.
EvilGlare 9/dez./2023 às 13:23 
not every one is rich anof to have more then one beafy,beast computer.its nice that you have more then one,alot of folks must save for the second computer.Yes you are corect the rules can be aplyed to the not rented ones.rules though also bring enimys who rail agenst them.rules are risk & some Viruses cause phisical damage to the hardware of A computer now,15 years ago,self hosted servers did work,now one must be rich anof to forfit A old computer to risk it.You & I are both rite & rong on our perspectives,so I pay A small sum to shift the risk of hardware damage to A third party , off site :).
TallgeeseIV 9/dez./2023 às 17:22 
Escrito originalmente por EvilGlare:
LOL so im selfish? when i rent the sever,my friends will be able to play for free,no raiders alowd! The cost is on me.Why am I renting a 24/7 server? each computer has A power regulator,as we run our computers, it wares out.When it breaks down,power serges hapen damaging the part with in ones computer.The self hosted soft ware is the best way to kill your computer power regulator that must run 24/7 to be A true sever.The ones who want it free can smack talk me all they want as they kill there computer faster,those who can think & resion will see through there lies,half the rented sever haters are just Raiders angry at there rain of raiding ending with the good mats & bigger builds no longer being at there finger tips.The same goes for the tame killers,they will be left out in the cold as well with rented severs having clear rules as to what is not permited :)

Clearly you don't have the technical background or knowledge to speak to any of this, so unfortunately the best you can do is trust us, those who run servers for other games from home already, and believe me when I tell you, that's not how any of that works.

With the exception of upgrades and maintenance, I've had a home server running 24/7 for around 16 years. Whether it runs this game or not, it will be running to provide access to my media, other dedicated game servers, stable diffusion, and a myriad of other self-hosted services, and I'd bet that most of the other folks upset by the lack of self-hosted dedicated server files are doing the same.

You seem to think everyone would be building an entire second gaming PC just to run this one game server, and that's not how this works at all.

Escrito originalmente por EvilGlare:
As to the G-portal haters,G-portal stepped up ware others did not.Good things happen to those who wait,Great thing happen to those who DO !

G-Portal didn't "step-up" for ♥♥♥♥. They got exclusivity out of a business arrangement. There's no "good guy G-Portal" meme in this. This is "Scumbag G-Portal" at best.

Escrito originalmente por EvilGlare:
not every one is rich anof to have more then one beafy,beast computer.its nice that you have more then one,alot of folks must save for the second computer.Yes you are corect the rules can be aplyed to the not rented ones.rules though also bring enimys who rail agenst them.rules are risk & some Viruses cause phisical damage to the hardware of A computer now,15 years ago,self hosted servers did work,now one must be rich anof to forfit A old computer to risk it.You & I are both rite & rong on our perspectives,so I pay A small sum to shift the risk of hardware damage to A third party , off site :).

Again, you clearly don't know how these game servers work. You don't need a high-end PC, you don't even need a GPU, as almost all dedicated game servers are headless and run in a terminal window.

And more importantly, no one's saying you shouldn't be able to pay to host the game on G-Portal, or other subscription-based private servers if you don't have a home server. Is that what you think people are saying here? That would be idiotic. What we're saying is that we wanted self-hosted files at the same time.

I don't really care about the cost tbh. It's more about the principle of it, and the level of control I have over MY game server, but if money is all you understand, then consider that some of us ALREADY PAY for the hardware and electrical bill for a 24/7 server that could easily also host this game. Why would we be willing to shell out even more money for a third party service? That's just burning money.

PS: Your spelling is atrocious. Use auto-correct or SOMETHING, yeesh. You spelled the word "enough", "anof"? Like.... how? I'm almost impressed. I feel like you could have accidentally been educated better than this. I just don't know how you got this bad.
Última edição por TallgeeseIV; 9/dez./2023 às 17:26
SylenThunder 9/dez./2023 às 19:08 
Escrito originalmente por EvilGlare:
not every one is rich anof to have more then one beafy,beast computer.its nice that you have more then one,alot of folks must save for the second computer.Yes you are corect the rules can be aplyed to the not rented ones.rules though also bring enimys who rail agenst them.rules are risk & some Viruses cause phisical damage to the hardware of A computer now,15 years ago,self hosted servers did work,now one must be rich anof to forfit A old computer to risk it.You & I are both rite & rong on our perspectives,so I pay A small sum to shift the risk of hardware damage to A third party , off site :).
You don't have to be rich, you just have to play it smart.

We picked up a used Dell PowerEdge R710 from Ebay for cheap. Fitted some SSD's in it, and got it all set up. Already had high-speed internet, and a backup UPS was only another $150. So for less than $600, we set up a server machine. Hosts 14 Ark servers right now. Has been running nearly a decade. Only had to replace a couple of SSD's once for a total of less than $100. Paid for itself before the first year was up. If we had paid for a service like G-Portal, we were looking at close to $200 a month for server hosting.

And seriously, a lot of people self-host. Here is a handful of stats just for LGSM (Linux Game Server Manager).
https://linuxgsm.com/data/usage/

That only covers Linux hosting for the few people that opt-in to submit data. There are more games hosted on Windows servers, and this doesn't include people using other management software or people who just set it up using SteamCMD. Maybe they use WinGSM, Hetzner, AMP, or other similar services.
And let's not even limit the issue to "oh we can't self-host". or "maybe people don't have spare computers laying around".

G-Portal exclusivity means that you cannot use any of the other common hosting companies who provide a similar service.
Like the following...
  • AA Game Hosting
  • ActiveGameHost
  • Aussie Server Hosts
  • BlueFangSolutions
  • ChicagoServers
  • ClanHost Australia
  • CitadelServers
  • EasyGameHosting
  • EUGameHost.com
  • frag.gs
  • Fragnet
  • Game Host Bros
  • GameServers
  • GTXGaming
  • Host Havoc
  • Indifferent Broccoli
  • LogicServers
  • LOW.MS
  • MyBlackBoxHosting
  • Nitrado
  • PingPerfect
  • ServerBlend
  • TheGameWorld
These are all good quality server host companies, and every single one of them ranks better than G-Portal. (Except maybe Nitrado now)

Thanks to the lie the developer is pushing, you can't rent from any of those hosting companies either. And a lot of them are cheaper than G-Portal, and would create good competition.

You have to be truly ignorant to not realize how bad it is when developers try to pull the wool over the eyes of the consumers like this.
Última edição por SylenThunder; 9/dez./2023 às 19:09
Syngyl 9/dez./2023 às 20:21 
Escrito originalmente por EvilGlare:
not every one is rich anof to have more then one beafy,beast computer
For anyone interested in hosting their own servers for themselves and friends its very inexpensive to buy a pc specifically for hosting. You can get a cheap used pc for under $50, there are often towers that were used by businesses that are being cleared out and they sell them dirt cheap because they just want to get rid of them. You don't need a graphics card and most games don't need an impressive cpu to host <10 players. Then all you need to do is slap a cheap SSD in there to replace the HDD and you have your own hosting machine for under $100. You may need to buy an additional stick of ram depending on how much it came with, you would like at least 8 GB. This thing will be able to host any game you and your friends want to play for years and pays for itself in less than one.
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