So I went to the Stranger blocker

[Garamoth]

I followed a blue light and found a satellite with a symbol of the eye of the universe on it. That's the blocker, right? It doesn't seem like you can interact with it in any way.

Can you actually do anything with it?

[Skid]

You may of just been following the probe, if you mean the blue light you see at the start of a loop. That's a probe.

[Garamoth]

Aaah, I guess that makes more sense, thanks. It's the Nomai probe then. That's what you get for just playing the DLC and having forgotten about everything else.

[morbosfist]

The blocker is orbiting the Eye. You can't fly there conventionally.

[Paintbrush]

Originally posted by morbosfist:

The blocker is orbiting the Eye. You can't fly there conventionally.

Yeah, I recall specific text saying it is impossible to reach the eye in the Hearthian ship. It is in the outer reaches of the solar system. Would be cool if there was a super low chance to find the eye of the universe by flying out of the galaxy.

[choongmyoung]

The interesting thing is that the Hearthian spaceship can fly faster than the Nomai probe. I guess it'll be possible to find the Eye of the Universe by myself in 22 minutes, if I loop enough. And then the chance is too low to actually find it for human race playing this game... kinda.

[lieutenantkirtar]

I remember someone saying the devs planned on making it possible to fly to the Eye, in theory following the probe on your first loop should take you to it. But I guess at some point adding the Eye to the rest of the solar system made things too difficult.

[choongmyoung]

Originally posted by lieutenantkirtar:

in theory following the probe on your first loop should take you to it.

Not actually, the prove found the Eye one loop before the Nomai statue activates.

[Shiztastic]

Originally posted by choongmyoung:

Originally posted by lieutenantkirtar:

in theory following the probe on your first loop should take you to it.

Not actually, the prove found the Eye one loop before the Nomai statue activates.

Yes actually. If you go to the Probe Tracking Module on your first loop, the launch count for the current probe and the probe which found Eye are the same.

[Paintbrush]

Originally posted by Shiztastic:

Originally posted by choongmyoung:

Not actually, the prove found the Eye one loop before the Nomai statue activates.

Yes actually. If you go to the Probe Tracking Module on your first loop, the launch count for the current probe and the probe which found Eye are the same.

The probe is supposed to launch in a random direction at the start of each loop. If the first loop is the one where the probe finds the eye I wonder if the probe always shoots the same direction on the first loop.

Having thought about this for a few minutes, if the probe finds the eye on the starting loop and is able to send coordinates back in time after the supernova why would it ever launch in any other direction thereafter? It was programmed to find the eye, it does, then continues shooting off in other directions. Don't quite get that.

[Shiztastic]

Originally posted by Paintbrush:

Originally posted by Shiztastic:

Yes actually. If you go to the Probe Tracking Module on your first loop, the launch count for the current probe and the probe which found Eye are the same.

The probe is supposed to launch in a random direction at the start of each loop. If the first loop is the one where the probe finds the eye I wonder if the probe always shoots the same direction on the first loop.

Having thought about this for a few minutes, if the probe finds the eye on the starting loop and is able to send coordinates back in time after the supernova why would it ever launch in any other direction thereafter? It was programmed to find the eye, it does, then continues shooting off in other directions. Don't quite get that.

The system is programmed to simply alert someone upon a success/fail state via statue pairing, which would allow them to manually shut it all down.

As for the first probe firing in the same direction each time, unfortunately this is not the case even though by the game’s logic it should be the same on every new expedition.

[lieutenantkirtar]

It was designed to shoot in a different direction every loop, with the intent being that after it found the Eye the Nomai would stop the artificial supernova. But since there is no way to stop the supernova from happening the probe just continues firing off in a random direction.

I think it uses the data it transmits to the next loop as a way of pointing the canon in a different direction. I can't recall if this is written somewhere or just the reasoning I came up with.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Shiztastic:

The system is programmed to simply alert someone upon a success/fail state via statue pairing, which would allow them to manually shut it all down.

You know, I never considered - why don't they just have the probe not launch once it gets the location - it's automated anyway.

Obviously the game would be much shorter that way, but it isn't clear why they needed to be involved .

Oh...yeah that's right they need to not trigger sun station, not to stop the probe. Oops.

[DrPackinwud]

Originally posted by Paintbrush:

Originally posted by Shiztastic:

Yes actually. If you go to the Probe Tracking Module on your first loop, the launch count for the current probe and the probe which found Eye are the same.

The probe is supposed to launch in a random direction at the start of each loop. If the first loop is the one where the probe finds the eye I wonder if the probe always shoots the same direction on the first loop.

Having thought about this for a few minutes, if the probe finds the eye on the starting loop and is able to send coordinates back in time after the supernova why would it ever launch in any other direction thereafter? It was programmed to find the eye, it does, then continues shooting off in other directions. Don't quite get that.

I've thought about this, as well as the issue of following the probe on the first loop. I may be missing something, but I think the first thing is that the probe was programmed to just keep firing randomly. It wasn't programmed to fire at the eye, so the fact that it uncovered the eye mattered to the ATP, but not the probe.

The second thing is that I think that the eye is still beyond how far a Hearthian ship can go. IIRC the probe doesn't necessarily "find" the eye, it identifies a location matching known qualities of the eye. Therefore while it may be withing a certain range to meet all the criteria the Nomai had for a region where the eye is, it doesn't necessarily reach the eye itself.

All that said, I'm a big dum dum so I could be missing something obvious that blows both those things out of the water.

[Garamoth]

Anyway, I looked at the Easter Eggs guide and it turns out you can see the "real" blocker from the Eye of the Universe. So that's that.

I just thought there would be something else to solve outside the station near the end of the DLC. I guess not!