Fie ruins this game, lol

[Grandork]

She can get both 100% Physical and Magical Evasion, all she needs is the Adamantine Quartz for Physical Immunity, since Mirage already gives Mirror, and she can Tank anything for as long as she wants. Lol. There are very few special attack units that have unavoidable attacks.

[Tiasmoon]

Nguyên văn bởi insanegriot:

I rarely use Fie to be honest. Her damage potential seems to be lacking in my opinion. You could set her up to do decent damage. But when you have finite resourses to go around, why set her up when you could be setting up Laura, Millium, or Gaius.

I can't see why people would use at-delay/evasion tank strats. The fights drag on way too long doing that. It is much better, in my opinion, to just have high damaging characters spam overdrives, s-crafts, and link attacks. Different play styles I guess.

Pretty much. Personally I dont like using either because its too much ''godmode''. Aside from being very slow and boring as well. It's a lot more fun to chain Lost Arts and S-Crafts.

Nguyên văn bởi OniLiquid:

Aries is the best MQ for casters--bar none. It blows Criminal, Pandora, and whatever else you can think of out of the water. Who cares about 1.5x or 2x damage when you can throw out like 3 Maelstroms before anyone else can act, depending on current delay values, and then continue churning out Maelstroms every other turn. Sure, you can achieve the same speeds with Criminal and Pandora as well, but they are not sustainable and you would burn through your EP just as fast (unless you have a huge supply of EP Charge IV).

If you have not seen Emma field nuking with Maelstrom continuously or every other turn, you have not seen how overpowered mages in this game can be.

Aries? I read an opinion like that once. Its nice for EP regen but thats it really. Pandora is far superior when it comes to damage, as is Criminal. Especially before Rank 5 MQ, since you won't have Maelstorm unless you level Aries to rank 5.


I have Tovals Accessory and cast1/2 + Silver Bell on Emma. She already casts nearly instantly.
The only thing that really burns EP is using Lost Arts. But then its more effective to use regular Arts most of the time anyway.

Besides, thus far I've only had to nuke continously when fighting those optional Lost Art gem monsters. Most of the rest dies in one collective party turn.

Maybe I'll change my mind near the end of the game, dunno.

Besides, why spam the same attack over and over when I could do something needlessly cool like a Grail Burst into Overdrive with double Lost Art spells, into double S-crafts.

[OniLiquid]

Nguyên văn bởi Tiasmoon:

Aries? I read an opinion like that once. Its nice for EP regen but thats it really. Pandora is far superior when it comes to damage, as is Criminal. Especially before Rank 5 MQ, since you won't have Maelstorm unless you level Aries to rank 5.


I have Tovals Accessory and cast1/2 + Silver Bell on Emma. She already casts nearly instantly.
The only thing that really burns EP is using Lost Arts. But then its more effective to use regular Arts most of the time anyway.

Besides, thus far I've only had to nuke continously when fighting those optional Lost Art gem monsters. Most of the rest dies in one collective party turn.

Aries is there to make you be able to spam abilities that burn EP like lost arts, maelstrom, Claiomh Solarion etc without having any issues maintaining the cost.

Example:

Aries Master Quartz
Diablos / Enchantment
Searing Sun Gem
Yasha
Silver Bell / Mind 2
Hades
Brahma
Skanda Gem
Deus

But ye you do need to level it from rank 4 to 5, before that its near useless as it wont have the EP recovery.

[Tiasmoon]

It has EP recovery at rank 4 as well, but it wont have Maelstrom yet and the other water spells have poor aoe placements. That said, you can use EP cost reduction quartz to reduce the cost. They work for Lost Arts as well, so they wont cost 100% EP if you use one. (incidentally, Pandoras EP increase also applies to them)

[bossmanham]

What did you not understand about "Best Girl"?

[Edwardlloyd]

ı just did over 100k damage with laura

she's over there alongside mcburn i think

[Honbuk]

Nguyên văn bởi Edwardlloyd:

ı just did over 100k damage with laura

she's over there alongside mcburn i think

I dealt 400k with Laura in the final battle. She is really broken.

[That's ich!]

Everythig is broken in CS lol
just the other day was trying to bring Onii-sama (Act 1 boss) down to 1 HP, Laura and Emma just rekt him lol. Some Emma Arts, overdrive and then some S, and he was ded xD
Sadly, he has 1 HP cheat because he is suppossed to be unbeatable

[Quickpawmaud]

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

Nguyên văn bởi yoyosam:

what setup mkes fie a dodge tank

She has a natural 30%, equip Pattered Shirt (20%), Evergreen x2 (30%), Evade 1 (5%), Evade 2 (10%), Shining R (5%). That makes it 100% Evasion for Physical.

Equip Master Quartz Mirage, it's 25% Evade Magic @ 3, 50% Evade Magic @ 4 and 75% Evade Magic @ 5. So at 4 (50%) you need Shield 1, 2 and 3 (50%), At 5 (75%) you need Shield 3 (25%). Thus you now have 100% Evasion for Magic.

What hits you? Unavoidable Attacks. That usually means S-Craft, but a few attacks are also Unavoidable for some reason. Mirage gives you Mirror, that allows you to Reflect Magical Attacks, so just equip Adamantium and you will become Immune to Physical. This trivializes any boss, so be warned.

You are the only person I see mention using Mirage on Fie. I am going to try it but wondered about Shield that you mention. Afaik shield just increased adf it does not give magic evade? Sorry for super late reply just came across this and like I said nobody else online mentions mirage for her others seem to use Raven and Thors.

[Grandork]

Nguyên văn bởi Quickpawmaud:

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

She has a natural 30%, equip Pattered Shirt (20%), Evergreen x2 (30%), Evade 1 (5%), Evade 2 (10%), Shining R (5%). That makes it 100% Evasion for Physical.

Equip Master Quartz Mirage, it's 25% Evade Magic @ 3, 50% Evade Magic @ 4 and 75% Evade Magic @ 5. So at 4 (50%) you need Shield 1, 2 and 3 (50%), At 5 (75%) you need Shield 3 (25%). Thus you now have 100% Evasion for Magic.

What hits you? Unavoidable Attacks. That usually means S-Craft, but a few attacks are also Unavoidable for some reason. Mirage gives you Mirror, that allows you to Reflect Magical Attacks, so just equip Adamantium and you will become Immune to Physical. This trivializes any boss, so be warned.

You are the only person I see mention using Mirage on Fie. I am going to try it but wondered about Shield that you mention. Afaik shield just increased adf it does not give magic evade? Sorry for super late reply just came across this and like I said nobody else online mentions mirage for her others seem to use Raven and Thors.

Lol, it's been 6 years. I don't even remember this game kek. But I did a quick look at the wiki.

Shield 3 (Blue) gives ADF+80/Magic Evasion+25%.

[MARino]

o noooo

[Quickpawmaud]

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

Nguyên văn bởi Quickpawmaud:

You are the only person I see mention using Mirage on Fie. I am going to try it but wondered about Shield that you mention. Afaik shield just increased adf it does not give magic evade? Sorry for super late reply just came across this and like I said nobody else online mentions mirage for her others seem to use Raven and Thors.

Lol, it's been 6 years. I don't even remember this game kek. But I did a quick look at the wiki.

Shield 3 (Blue) gives ADF+80/Magic Evasion+25%.

The Kiseki fandom wiki which I was using says Shield 3 gives +40ADF which wiki are you using? Maybe it is a different one and this one is wrong?https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_quartz_(Cold_Steel)

[Grandork]

Nguyên văn bởi Quickpawmaud:

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

Lol, it's been 6 years. I don't even remember this game kek. But I did a quick look at the wiki.

Shield 3 (Blue) gives ADF+80/Magic Evasion+25%.

The Kiseki fandom wiki which I was using says Shield 3 gives +40ADF which wiki are you using? Maybe it is a different one and this one is wrong?https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_quartz_(Cold_Steel)

That's Cold Steel 1, this game is Cold Steel 2. https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_quartz_(Cold_Steel_II)#Defense

[Quickpawmaud]

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

Nguyên văn bởi Quickpawmaud:

The Kiseki fandom wiki which I was using says Shield 3 gives +40ADF which wiki are you using? Maybe it is a different one and this one is wrong?https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_quartz_(Cold_Steel)

That's Cold Steel 1, this game is Cold Steel 2. https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_quartz_(Cold_Steel_II)#Defense

Ah OK sorry thanks for clearing that up. I found this thread looking for stuff about Cold Steel 1 and never noticed it was about Cold Steel 2 lol. It is kind of hard to find stuff about Cold Steel 1 and a lot of search results lead to the other games.

[Grandork]

Nguyên văn bởi Quickpawmaud:

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

That's Cold Steel 1, this game is Cold Steel 2. https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_quartz_(Cold_Steel_II)#Defense

Ah OK sorry thanks for clearing that up. I found this thread looking for stuff about Cold Steel 1 and never noticed it was about Cold Steel 2 lol. It is kind of hard to find stuff about Cold Steel 1 and a lot of search results lead to the other games.

Very old games, innit? But Cold Steel series are very easy. For Cold Steel 1, the OP was Action Speed reduction. You could make the weakest fire skill cast time be 0, so you could infinitely use it to kill the uber boss.

Cold Steel 2 was full dodge.

Cold Steel 3 forward was an absolute joke and nothing was challenging at all.

[Quickpawmaud]

Nguyên văn bởi Grandork:

Nguyên văn bởi Quickpawmaud:

Ah OK sorry thanks for clearing that up. I found this thread looking for stuff about Cold Steel 1 and never noticed it was about Cold Steel 2 lol. It is kind of hard to find stuff about Cold Steel 1 and a lot of search results lead to the other games.

Very old games, innit? But Cold Steel series are very easy. For Cold Steel 1, the OP was Action Speed reduction. You could make the weakest fire skill cast time be 0, so you could infinitely use it to kill the uber boss.

Cold Steel 2 was full dodge.

Cold Steel 3 forward was an absolute joke and nothing was challenging at all.

It was kind of challenging for the first 3 chapters playing on nightmare but since Chapter 4 it has been easy. Got a bunch of OP stuff now.