Cold steel 1 choices doesnt matter?

[Sandremo]

Well FECK! I went through the laura "romance" route in cold steel 1 IE i got the ending just before valimar ran off with laura telling me what ever it was and now when im playing cold steel 2 with my old save game aye i got some items i got 1 flashback with at the very beginning with a single picture about laura looking at rean in valimar and that's it?! I went to nord to and got millium and alisa to join my group and all of a sudden the game tells me it was alisa who wanted to tell what was in her heart when we next meet?!?! WUT!? WHY!? What's the fecking point with the choices and flashbacks if the game's going to completely ignore my choice and force me down a set path the dev's chose? DX

[Tiasmoon]

It should be link level related, but I can't confirm since I used someone else's save for the carryover data. Atleast I can confirm its not the person you danced with, as I didnt dance with Alisa but still got her scene. I think I got all their short scenes, but not sure on that.

[~Adri~]

Meh, makes no difference to me. Turns out best girl candidates for me are all the CS2 characters like Duvalie.

[The Tempted Man]

Well, considering how the game shoves you a flashback of Alisa in Act 1 Part 2 talking to you and Valimar even though on your imported save you had a flashback of Laura speaking to you in Valimar in the very beginning of the game, my hunch was correct and Falcom has no idea what they are doing with these games. Pretty brainless design from so called top writing of jrpgs.

引用自 something81：

引用自 kraidy117：

2 pages in and on one has answered OPs question. Never change steam. So what happens is this. If you could dance with that character, that character will have unique dialog when you first meet them, this applies to everyone, not just Alisa. So even if you do dance with say Laura, if you had Millium, Alisa, Sara and Jusis as a option to dance, you'll get those lines, you'll just have that scene at the start unique for Laura. This is not unique to Alisa like some where trying to say, it happens to everyone as long as they could be chosen to dance. Should note there are call backs depending on what you did if you import a save, small as they are, it's not just romance stuff.

Thanks, that argument was really annoying, since I checked this thread out looking for answers and genuinly don't care about fanboy oriented arguments. So, if I went with Laura in the previous game, she's still a romace option here and the Alisa thing was just 'extra' because I had a good link level with her in the previous game? I just reunited with Alisa's group and getting that scene kinda spoiled my enjoyment of the game, since I assumed initially it's a save transfer bug.

PS - I genuinly don't care about canon, or not, would just really appreciate an answer.

Thanks.

This isn't a bug, Alisa scene always happens, regardless of our choices.

[Tiasmoon]

引用自 kraidy117：

引用自 Tiasmoon：

Tbh I get the impression they dont care much for love interests at all (or even close relations of any kind). Right at the start you get the 2 girls that didnt get much screentime in CS 1. and right after they are taking prisoner....again

..yes that upset me.

Keep playing.

By the way, you lied. :p

引用自 ~Adri~ (No Sound)：

Meh, makes no difference to me. Turns out best girl candidates for me are all the CS2 characters like Duvalie.

Yeah all the best girls are not part of Class VII. Or even a (more then temporary) party member.

Alfina, Elise, Sharon, Duvalie, Towa.

[Drude]

引用自 ϟMangekyō Sharinganϟ：

Well, considering how the game shoves you a flashback of Alisa in Act 1 Part 2 talking to you and Valimar even though on your imported save you had a flashback of Laura speaking to you in Valimar in the very beginning of the game, my hunch was correct and Falcom has no idea what they are doing with these games. Pretty brainless design from so called top writing of jrpgs.

引用自 something81：

Thanks, that argument was really annoying, since I checked this thread out looking for answers and genuinly don't care about fanboy oriented arguments. So, if I went with Laura in the previous game, she's still a romace option here and the Alisa thing was just 'extra' because I had a good link level with her in the previous game? I just reunited with Alisa's group and getting that scene kinda spoiled my enjoyment of the game, since I assumed initially it's a save transfer bug.

PS - I genuinly don't care about canon, or not, would just really appreciate an answer.

Thanks.

This isn't a bug, Alisa scene always happens, regardless of our choices.

No Alisa's scene does not always happen the scenese depends on who you could dance with not who you danced with. If you did not do the extra talks with Alisa she will not have that scene.

[ct2651]

It's just weird because, at the beginning of the game, they showed me the scene with emma beside the robot telling rean to leave, and when you reunite with Alisa, it's like she was the one that was beside the robot. Of course, I did have link level 5 with her as well as elliot, fie, laura, and dancing with emma, also, elliot and fie were kinda even more on rean than machias, so maybe it's true they give all the scenes with the level 5 link

[ct2651]

Let me get this straight, if you had 5 choices of dancing at the end of CS1, you will have special scenes with all five of them. Even if there was a flag since they used it in the first game.

That is a bit sad since, it clearly feels like an error, at least don't show a scene that haven't happen.

[Drude]

引用自 ct2651：

Let me get this straight, if you had 5 choices of dancing at the end of CS1, you will have special scenes with all five of them. Even if there was a flag since they used it in the first game.

That is a bit sad since, it clearly feels like an error, at least don't show a scene that haven't happen.

That is what I remember one of the Xseed reps saying but I dont know if it was for all of the characters or just class VII (I kind of assume its class VII only). But yeah it does seem like a mistake that all of them are activated and not just the dance partners.

[ct2651]

well, someone else say the same thing. here

And then I did some research, and figured it out! Or, rather, the Internet told me what happened.

While the game carries over your decision of who you danced with, when it comes to the Reunion scenes, it actually transfers over the bonus content for those scenes based on whether you *COULD* have seen the scene in your first game's playthrough. So you can actually see the bonus 'more intimate' Reunion content for up to ten characters (if you met the criteria so they were an option to dance with in the save you've transferred.)

For the most part, the bonus content is just an extra line or two referencing those final conversations you could have with the character in the first Cold Steel. Elliot just has an extra line where he talks about music that's just tacked on to his Reunion scene, for example. Alisa's just stands out because her extra 'intimate' conversation explicitly assumes you saw her ending scene (complete with flashback to Alisa standing over Valimar) even when you didn't.

When you ultimately have your Reunion with Laura, you'll get confirmation that you actually chose her as your dance partner if she starts at the beginning of Bond Level 3 (instead of somewhere midway in Bond Level 2, where everyone else starts.) You basically get a slight bonus to starting bond level values with your actual dancing buddy.

Another way to put this is: If you're a trophy hunter you probably constantly reloaded a save right before the dance to see all the possible scenes with all the possible dance partners you acquired in your Cold Steel playthrough.
Now imagine that your Rean canonically actually danced and/or talked with everyone he could have interacted with that night. That's how Cold Steel II proceeds, as if that actually happened. The end result is you get to witness more intimate reunion scenes in Part I of CS2.

[ct2651]

In fact, it does make sense, even for Alisa, that was clearly the more in love in the first game, what doesn't is the fact that she remember something that hasn't happen. that's the only error here.

[Stabbey]

It does seem to be a little glitchy. I DID pick Alisa for the dance, and her scene played out properly, but when Millium greeted Rean, there was a glimpse of her beside the robot, which didn't happen.

[ct2651]

They clearly forgot a flag check for these moments xD....

[The Tempted Man]

引用自 Drude：

No Alisa's scene does not always happen the scenese depends on who you could dance with not who you danced with. If you did not do the extra talks with Alisa she will not have that scene.

Maybe not, but nothing so far in the game leads me to believe that if I bothered to replay CS1 and only focus on one gal, like Laura and dance with her, her reunion scene would be different.

@Ct2651
thanks for the research tho, as I suspected, save import didn't matter in the slightest. Pretty bad writing from so called top writing jrpg company