Any chance of getting the original version back?

[reeze]

Reborn is horrible, the world, scaling, everything is terrible. I miss the original very much, are there any plans on bringing reborn more in-line to what the game was?

[Czech]

I have about 200 hours in the original and was planning to start playing again. Are you saying I shouldn't bother?

[Czech]

Just gave it a shot and I must say that the old world felt better.

- Better monster variety (reborn feels like it's just a bunch of copy-pasted stick figures of different sizes and with different articles glittered on them)
- Better feeling of progression due to lack of level scaling
- Better clutter of assets scattered through the map (reborn feels so "flat" and barren)
- Better separation of zones that melted into each other (reborn seems to use corridors to merge the zones together)
- No micro-transactions or forced DLC for questing
- etc, etc

Reborn did seem to get a lot right (the new classes, more refined combat of some classes, auction house, etc), but I feel they went in the wrong direction by completely overhauling the map, removing tons of models/assets, and in general removing clutter from the world.

It's like they improved the mechanics and did a hardcore removal of the world's aesthetics. I may have to change my review... they didn't seem to ultimately upgrade the game, but rather they side-graded it :(

To think they removed the early access banner as well; what a shame. At this point they should just introduce single player and mod support so that those mods can be merged into the online game with a player voting system. Then they could just let the players help build the ultimate experience. Haha, what I am I saying, they will never do that.

I will give it another chance during the thanksgiving break and sink 10 hours into it, but first impressions were saddening.

[Czech]

Alright, I am back. I have taken another look at this game and I can say that overall it's a step in the right direction. There are some things that I wish were kept (e.g. the old world and monster diversity) but I cannot overlook the fact that the developers have given some serious thoughts to the current game mechanics.

It may not be entirely what I wanted, but I think we have to give credit where credit is due. Now if only microtransaction were removed, I would be able to give it at least a 8/10, however that is a different discussion, I think...

[reeze]

Originally posted by Czech:

Alright, I am back. I have taken another look at this game and I can say that overall it's a step in the right direction. There are some things that I wish we're kept (e.g. the old world) but I cannot overlook that fact that the developers have given some serious thoughts to the current game mechanics.

It may not be entirely what I wanted, but I think we have to give credit where credit is due.

I don't agree, I think it's a step in the wrong direction. No longer feels like a world to explore, just an event hub full of dull enemies. The level scaling sucks, the enemy placement within zones is irritating, you can't really wander off anywhere. Even the performance is worse. I guess to each their own, but the game felt really special before this reborn launch, there were circles of people teaching each other spells, people chatting by the fishing spots, people helping others find places etc. Now it's just wave at an npc, get a random quest, go do it, engage in event, rinse and repeat. There are far better mmos that are much less strenuous on my body than orbus that does all that so much better. Now I'm just waiting for the next VR mmo. Glad you enjoy it though, it's expensive enough, so good you're getting enjoyment from it.

[Mishka]

Long story short, no, Preborn isn't coming back.

[Czech]

Originally posted by reeze:

Originally posted by Czech:

Alright, I am back. I have taken another look at this game and I can say that overall it's a step in the right direction. There are some things that I wish we're kept (e.g. the old world) but I cannot overlook that fact that the developers have given some serious thoughts to the current game mechanics.

It may not be entirely what I wanted, but I think we have to give credit where credit is due.

I don't agree, I think it's a step in the wrong direction. No longer feels like a world to explore, just an event hub full of dull enemies. The level scaling sucks, the enemy placement within zones is irritating, you can't really wander off anywhere. Even the performance is worse. I guess to each their own, but the game felt really special before this reborn launch, there were circles of people teaching each other spells, people chatting by the fishing spots, people helping others find places etc. Now it's just wave at an npc, get a random quest, go do it, engage in event, rinse and repeat. There are far better mmos that are much less strenuous on my body than orbus that does all that so much better. Now I'm just waiting for the next VR mmo. Glad you enjoy it though, it's expensive enough, so good you're getting enjoyment from it.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you in that the content they removed should have been kept. However, keep in mind that the personality of the original build of the game came from the players and willful interaction and not necessarily the developers. I found a few people the last time I was playing that were trying to practice spells and learn the game; we ended up sitting in a circle talking about things like people used to do back in the day. One of the people in the group even escorted me to a dungeon that was about a 15 minute walk away.

I would really like to see them re-introduce the old world and make the main city where everyone congregates smaller, because that was definitely something they changed which was a step in the wrong direction.

[KinG40]

This game used to be amazing.... then they ruined it with reborn.... I used to stay up till 6 am playing with friends, now we wont even touch this game. It was supposed to just be upgraded textures and an expansion on the story line.... somehow we got here.... This game has to be headed toward death.

[Ken]

Originally posted by KinG40:

This game used to be amazing.... then they ruined it with reborn.... I used to stay up till 6 am playing with friends, now we wont even touch this game. It was supposed to just be upgraded textures and an expansion on the story line.... somehow we got here.... This game has to be headed toward death.

OrbusVR Reborn is my favorite game of all time. The game is definitely not headed towards death.... it's occupied all the time now 24 hours a day. Great community!

Maybe you and your friends just have bad taste....?

I never did play pre-born tho....so who knows.....?

Reborn is the greatest thing I have ever played tho, barring none.

[davedsone]

Originally posted by Ken:

Originally posted by KinG40:

This game used to be amazing.... then they ruined it with reborn.... I used to stay up till 6 am playing with friends, now we wont even touch this game. It was supposed to just be upgraded textures and an expansion on the story line.... somehow we got here.... This game has to be headed toward death.

OrbusVR Reborn is my favorite game of all time. The game is definitely not headed towards death.... it's occupied all the time now 24 hours a day. Great community!

Maybe you and your friends just have bad taste....?

I never did play pre-born tho....so who knows.....?

Reborn is the greatest thing I have ever played tho, barring none.

Since you never played the original, you aren't really in a position to comment, but you do that and insult other people. First game was better. I'd know, I played it. This game is an unimprovement to fit on a new system. It worked, but from what I see most of the original players (we had the server active 24/7 by the way) left. My guild never gets on anymore. I don't get on very much. I completely understand the decisions were made to try to keep the game alive and viable, but it's a shadow of what it used to be.

[Ken]

Originally posted by davedsone:

Originally posted by Ken:

OrbusVR Reborn is my favorite game of all time. The game is definitely not headed towards death.... it's occupied all the time now 24 hours a day. Great community!

Maybe you and your friends just have bad taste....?

I never did play pre-born tho....so who knows.....?

Reborn is the greatest thing I have ever played tho, barring none.

Since you never played the original, you aren't really in a position to comment, but you do that and insult other people. First game was better. I'd know, I played it. This game is an unimprovement to fit on a new system. It worked, but from what I see most of the original players (we had the server active 24/7 by the way) left. My guild never gets on anymore. I don't get on very much. I completely understand the decisions were made to try to keep the game alive and viable, but it's a shadow of what it used to be.

Naw. You are just oversensitive and combative.
You don't like the game as it is and I love it.

The idea that you and a handful of buddies think that the game is ruined to the point that you don't want to play it should make others not want to play it is silly.

I offered a fair counterpoint to your comment about death and ruin....for others benefit, not yours as your mind is made up.

Also the game isn't dying it's absolutely packed 24.7

[Darkphipps~]

The original was flushed out, lots of zones, enemies, and it felt more wholesome; now its blank and empty world map with a few enemy types, its way too big and spread out, and all the fun locations (firey/jungle/desert) areas are redone to be spread out with less content, and, instead of fishing off the dock at the bottom of the hill, i now fish off of cliffs and chunky blank landscapes...

I wish to pitch this idea to the Devs

Just have a door that opens on one end or something, that goes out into the old world outside of town, or, atleast bring back the old enemy types and make the map more interesting, it doesnt even have the grass like before, it just feels... dead

[Ken]

Originally posted by Darkphipps~:

The original was flushed out, lots of zones, enemies, and it felt more wholesome; now its blank and empty world map with a few enemy types, its way too big and spread out, and all the fun locations (firey/jungle/desert) areas are redone to be spread out with less content, and, instead of fishing off the dock at the bottom of the hill, i now fish off of cliffs and chunky blank landscapes...

I wish to pitch this idea to the Devs

Just have a door that opens on one end or something, that goes out into the old world outside of town, or, atleast bring back the old enemy types and make the map more interesting, it doesnt even have the grass like before, it just feels... dead

From what I understand.... The devs wanted to get the game to work on oculus standalones in order to access that market. In order to do that they had to redo all the graphics because the oculus standalones highly inferior processors couldn't handle the original world......

Next week there is a big graphical update / upgrade coming to the town of Highsteppe. The devs are definitely not "finished" with that aspect of the game....

As far as your suggestion about the door........I love it....
In fact I have made it before....sorta.... I suggested that a VR headset should be added to the tavern and allow you to play around in the old version of the world as if you were entering into VR.....
I don't think it is going to happen tho. The devs and senior players feel that it would split the playerbase and take away from the existing version of the game..... and also.... even tho the new oculus standalones are slightly more powerful than the last batch of oculus standalones.... they are still just last gen cellphones.... and the original issues persist....

I never played OG Orbus, so I can't compare the look of it to the Reborn Orbus.... but... I would mention that even tho the graphics are best described as "functional" they do have a nice style to them and I personally find the world quite engaging.....

I'd still love to have a look at the old world tho.

[Darkphipps~]

From user 'Jinx' in the review section for Orbus Reborn:

"The devs took the Facebook money and deleted OrbusVR entirely and relaunched it as Orbus Reborn, specifically for the Facebook Oculus Quest 1 launch."

Is this true?

[Ken]

Originally posted by Darkphipps~:

From user 'Jinx' in the review section for Orbus Reborn:

"The devs took the Facebook money and deleted OrbusVR entirely and relaunched it as Orbus Reborn, specifically for the Facebook Oculus Quest 1 launch."

Is this true?

I dunno and couldn't say..... I started playing the game after the Reborn version came out. I really love Reborn for what it is, so I play it....