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Oh i have found all the fiber, just annoying seeing loot you "cant" grab
Still can't figure out the first screenshot.
Actually, having looked back over it I am pretty sure that first screenshot is the club with Lomo. The 2nd one looks like that one you have to have the band play a "not jazz" song with Hayse and I've always had access to it as far as I know. In fact the map is clear of collectibles with my playthrough.
And i haven't done anything with Hayse yet since intro.
Thanks again :)