Dead Frontier 2

Dead Frontier 2

Kill'o'gor Apr 25, 2023 @ 11:47am
How p2w is this game?
Title.
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Dark Savior Apr 25, 2023 @ 2:59pm 
None.
Very free to play friendly.
I pay for convenience and cosmetics.
Cosmetics have no stats.
Tactrix Apr 26, 2023 @ 12:30pm 
It isn't, you can pay everything and the only benefit you'll get out of it is faster leveling, which is not as relevant as it sounds.
HeoQuayThePiggy Apr 27, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Well for the best way to earn Credits super fast, buy Coins
For faster EXP and More Quanity, we got Gold Memebership

After all still P2W, Pay sth to Win sth. But not that's kind of P2W like EA or Survarium. The mean is There aren't any GOLD ITEM PAY BY MONEY to have 1000% Stats.
Underdog Apr 28, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Ever since you could sell credits, the game can be seen as more p2w than before. Credits sell for a really high value which surprises me, around 600,000 per 100. That being said, I think you can play the entire game without ever feeling like it is p2w. Everything in the game is available to loot or craft, it's not like you buy weapons with real life money directly. No weapons are behind IRL money paywalls. Just focus on yourself and play at your own pace. Play it the way you enjoy it

I do recommend you support the game, though. The developer is active on the game with several updates per month, if not per week. But I don't think you will be spending $100 per month like "real" p2w games. Nothing wrong with getting Gold Membership here and there to show support
Last edited by Underdog; Apr 28, 2023 @ 12:37pm
76561199003033011 Apr 30, 2023 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Kill'o'gor:
Title.
Awesome Free to play BUT the dev is not taking big steps with updates he is too conservative and playing it safe which making the game a bit boring (at least he listen to our feedback) I deleted my maxed characters two times to enjoy the early stages of the game again.
ZaneLear Apr 30, 2023 @ 11:26am 
So from what I can tell maybe... the only kind of pay to win things in game are extra inventory slots, trade slots, character slots and using tokens for skill resets. [Tho you do get 1 free skill reset at lvl 20, that you can save for lvl "60" aka 50+10]

I haven't gone into much my self, long ago I did pay to upgrade for more character slots and didn't notice till I got back in game I had extra inventory plus trade slots.

There are also the gold memberships, haven't messed with that tho seems like a lot of those perks might be considered pay to win, specially since I think he updated and or boosted them?

Weapons and stuff can't be pay to win I think, plus unlike DF1 there is no ghost ammo or special items where you can get unlimited ammo from credits or something like that.
Last edited by ZaneLear; Apr 30, 2023 @ 11:27am
Vik May 2, 2023 @ 2:47am 
It is Pay 2 Win, but the "payment" is affordable for most middle class people living in Western countries.
If you spend something like $10 then selling the credits will allow you to buy a *lot* of valuable items.
It's not like other P2W MMO's where you have to spend $100s or $1000s to buy valuable items.
SilverFire HD May 2, 2023 @ 7:01am 
It is not P2W at all. There is a comsetic store only for the players who want to support the game and they buy Credits for comsetics. You can even buy Credits with the in-game currency!
Zestychille May 3, 2023 @ 5:35am 
Time and effort.
The only thing money can bring you is a shorter early game experience. As the rest of the game may be attained without it. Spending can speed up that early game and jump you right into standard gameplay with everyone competing, or you can take your time and develop your skills more slowly and approach the competition with more experience instead of more money.

That choice is up to each individual based on their needs. A lot of folks with less time will find the benefit of a speedy level up. Others looking to escape for longer will benefit from not spending or not using what they have spent until they are already up to speed.

So while the p2w factor does exist, it is not a paywall right now, but more like a difficulty setting.
CedLeVrai May 3, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
This game is a real freeplay, And that's why you can pay for some credit to pay their work. Many games are really pay to win, but we know them quickly and everybody let them.
I have never been forced to pay, I have paid for the game, and it's possible I do the same thing when I will be enough strong to be in a team.
SilverFire HD May 5, 2023 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy Gaming:
Originally posted by Silverfire_HD:
It is not P2W at all. There is a comsetic store only for the players who want to support the game and they buy Credits for comsetics. You can even buy Credits with the in-game currency!
correction you buy them from other players who buy the credits
or
earn them every day / week / month by top scoring

You buy them from the in-game market with in-game money from other players that sell their credits.
Vik May 5, 2023 @ 8:49pm 
The key question, in my opinion, is:
Can you use real life money (dollars, euros etc) to buy power items ?

The answer to this would be a "yes" for this game, because you buy credits with dollars & then sell these credits for the in-game currency & then use the in-game currency to buy very powerful weapon & other items.

The game experience actually changes quite a lot if you sell even 100 credits.

Without selling these credits, you will be faced with a perpetual shortage of food, medical & ammo items. Your experience will mirror that of a real-life person who is living paycheck to paycheck & you will constantly have to go out & spend time foraging for these items, instead of increasing your character's XP.

On the other hand, if you sell even 100 credit for 800k in-game currency, then suddenly your world is transformed. You enter the world of the 'comfortable middle & upper class'. You can now buy as much food, medicine & ammo as you need and concentrate your energies only on maximising your character's experience gain. This is similar to how the wealth of the middle & upper class allows them the freedom to spend their energy on increasing their skills instead of a constant struggle for survival.
SilverFire HD May 10, 2023 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by Silverfire_HD:
Originally posted by Vik:
The key question, in my opinion, is:
Can you use real life money (dollars, euros etc) to buy power items ?

The answer to this would be a "yes" for this game, because you buy credits with dollars & then sell these credits for the in-game currency & then use the in-game currency to buy very powerful weapon & other items.

The game experience actually changes quite a lot if you sell even 100 credits.

Without selling these credits, you will be faced with a perpetual shortage of food, medical & ammo items. Your experience will mirror that of a real-life person who is living paycheck to paycheck & you will constantly have to go out & spend time foraging for these items, instead of increasing your character's XP.

On the other hand, if you sell even 100 credit for 800k in-game currency, then suddenly your world is transformed. You enter the world of the 'comfortable middle & upper class'. You can now buy as much food, medicine & ammo as you need and concentrate your energies only on maximising your character's experience gain. This is similar to how the wealth of the middle & upper class allows them the freedom to spend their energy on increasing their skills instead of a constant struggle for survival.



Some people have free time to spent to make in-game money and other people adults working so they don't have much time to spend but they have money to spend and have their in game balance and support this good game also.
That is my opinion.
LeTamoule May 18, 2023 @ 10:24am 
this game is more pay to advance like selling cred for money or having more exp and loot drop chance..there no actual pay to win really
ivarsr May 19, 2023 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by LeTamoule:
this game is more pay to advance like selling cred for money or having more exp and loot drop chance..there no actual pay to win really
I agree. By subcribing you will receive some credits, bonus exp and loot. In addition you get an expanded inventory. This will make it somewhat easier with inventory management, and level progression. You can sell the credits, but items are limited by your in game level. So you won't get the best items before you reach the level requirements.
Reaching a higer level will go faster if you subscribe.
But it seems that almost ever weekend there is a bonus to exp or some other stat, that is slightly less then if you subscribe, but still significant.
As a free to play game, I think they have found a fairly good balance.
I would have preferred that they did not have exp bonuses in the paid content. It would have been somewhat better if they did it like Path of Exile, which have a very good free to play system. There only intventory and cosmetic are paid content.
All in all this is one of the best free to play games considering the problem with "Pay to Win".
The tripple A games idustry has been trying to promote their games with the idea that you can pay some money if you do not have the time. Which is an obvious copreate lie to get more money out of you :)
Dead frontier 2 on the other hand actually does what the tripple A Industy say they are doing.
You won't win by paying.
And you will not be at the top of any leaderboards just becasue you invested money.
But it will make will make some of the game somewhat easier.
But you won't get better armour or attack by paying.
The paid content is mostly ease of life. More inventory space, increased exp and some better loot.
I have not yet reach end game content, so I can not say whether or not it changes there, but as of now I don't really see how it would.
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Date Posted: Apr 25, 2023 @ 11:47am
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