ghost ammo

[Jim Lahey]

would love to be able to buy ghost ammo again the same as i did in DF 1, as a casual player it really makes what little time i have to play so much more enjoyable. Would love to be able to support the game more, love the direction its going in.

[Solid Snake]

I dont care what ham-fisted justifcation there is anyone wants to give. Just no.
Let that stuff stay in DF1.

The whole point of DF2 is to have an entirely different going point from DF1.
QoL things is one thing, straight up p2w stuff isnt, cause thats literally what this suggestion is. I dont care what you wanna call it.I dont care how you want to slice up that cake, in the end of the day its still a cake.

[Rat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Solid Snake:

I dont care what ham-fisted justifcation there is anyone wants to give. Just no.
Let that stuff stay in DF1.

The whole point of DF2 is to have an entirely different going point from DF1.
QoL things is one thing, straight up p2w stuff isnt, cause thats literally what this suggestion is. I dont care what you wanna call it.I dont care how you want to slice up that cake, in the end of the day its still a cake.

so you wanna screw Neil out of making any money. alright... guess thats what children see going for games...

[Karam]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Solid Snake:

I dont care what ham-fisted justifcation there is anyone wants to give. Just no.
Let that stuff stay in DF1.

The whole point of DF2 is to have an entirely different going point from DF1.
QoL things is one thing, straight up p2w stuff isnt, cause thats literally what this suggestion is. I dont care what you wanna call it.I dont care how you want to slice up that cake, in the end of the day its still a cake.

so you wanna screw Neil out of making any money. alright... guess thats what children see going for games...

Back then, games use to be ethical, now there's people like you enabling p2w ♥♥♥♥, sorry your progression isn't influenced by how much money you can throw at the screen

[Rat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lego-si:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

so you wanna screw Neil out of making any money. alright... guess thats what children see going for games...

Back then, games use to be ethical, now there's people like you enabling p2w ♥♥♥♥, sorry your game isn't influenced by how much money you can spend on it

... .......................................................................... logic? the game is free... to play.. and every time anyone suggests for a way for Neil to make any sort of decent profit.. people go crazy. all of you act like a few cosmetics which most people seem to not buy.. at all. I have them all. every time I see people not even 1 out of 4 have any cosmetics on... or they have 1 or 2 things that are cosmetic. you people act like wanting to support the game is bad? add a premium that gives some exp? shot down. add special keys for loot boxes for special cosmetics? again mostly shot down.. some did agree. add some sort of booster? shot down... even had some complain about being able to have a bigger storage. you expect the server to keep running and Neil to be able to live off thin air? grow up. seen people even complain about paying 100-200 credits for a damn cosmetics.. yet people spend hundreds of dollars on csgo skins like it is no problem... damn... I feel bad for this developer truly... he deserves to make a living too. ghost ammo? how is that pay to win... look at df1 you think ghost ammo was good? you could use all that ammo in 1h tops. basically.... it really would not impact the game much at all... yet some act like it will completely ruin the game... not sure why... at is it... 4000 credits is the largest package you can buy on this game.. for 99.99 USD ... with that you could probably get all the cosmetics... I have seem people turn their heads at buying even the smallest package for a cosmetic. how is Neil going to be able to keep the game running of people / stuff like that? ask yourselves that, honestly.

[Karam]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lego-si:

Back then, games use to be ethical, now there's people like you enabling p2w ♥♥♥♥, sorry your game isn't influenced by how much money you can spend on it

... .......................................................................... logic? the game is free... to play.. and every time anyone suggests for a way for Neil to make any sort of decent profit.. people go crazy. all of you act like a few cosmetics which most people seem to not buy.. at all. I have them all. every time I see people not even 1 out of 4 have any cosmetics on... or they have 1 or 2 things that are cosmetic. you people act like wanting to support the game is bad? add a premium that gives some exp? shot down. add special keys for loot boxes for special cosmetics? again mostly shot down.. some did agree. add some sort of booster? shot down... even had some complain about being able to have a bigger storage. you expect the server to keep running and Neil to be able to live off thin air? grow up. seen people even complain about paying 100-200 credits for a damn cosmetics.. yet people spend hundreds of dollars on csgo skins like it is no problem... damn... I feel bad for this developer truly... he deserves to make a living too. ghost ammo? how is that pay to win... look at df1 you think ghost ammo was good? you could use all that ammo in 1h tops. basically.... it really would not impact the game much at all... yet some act like it will completely ruin the game... not sure why... at is it... 4000 credits is the largest package you can buy on this game.. for 99.99 USD ... with that you could probably get all the cosmetics... I have seem people turn their heads at buying even the smallest package for a cosmetic. how is Neil going to be able to keep the game running of people / stuff like that? ask yourselves that, honestly.

Im so glad you want to kill the elite/rare enhancer market with your purchasable xp boosters. You realize the people who play csgo also have a huge community of beggars and cryers who don't want to spend money right? The people buying those ludicriously priced items are not the same as the cheapscapes of this game. I supported Neil with the 4000 credit bundle, dont act as if we're as rare as you think, you find many more in the discord channel. This game is still in early stages of developement, which makes everyone nervous of spending their money on what is available

[Weeb Lord]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lego-si:

Back then, games use to be ethical, now there's people like you enabling p2w ♥♥♥♥, sorry your game isn't influenced by how much money you can spend on it

... .......................................................................... logic? the game is free... to play.. and every time anyone suggests for a way for Neil to make any sort of decent profit.. people go crazy. all of you act like a few cosmetics which most people seem to not buy.. at all. I have them all. every time I see people not even 1 out of 4 have any cosmetics on... or they have 1 or 2 things that are cosmetic. you people act like wanting to support the game is bad? add a premium that gives some exp? shot down. add special keys for loot boxes for special cosmetics? again mostly shot down.. some did agree. add some sort of booster? shot down... even had some complain about being able to have a bigger storage. you expect the server to keep running and Neil to be able to live off thin air? grow up. seen people even complain about paying 100-200 credits for a damn cosmetics.. yet people spend hundreds of dollars on csgo skins like it is no problem... damn... I feel bad for this developer truly... he deserves to make a living too. ghost ammo? how is that pay to win... look at df1 you think ghost ammo was good? you could use all that ammo in 1h tops. basically.... it really would not impact the game much at all... yet some act like it will completely ruin the game... not sure why... at is it... 4000 credits is the largest package you can buy on this game.. for 99.99 USD ... with that you could probably get all the cosmetics... I have seem people turn their heads at buying even the smallest package for a cosmetic. how is Neil going to be able to keep the game running of people / stuff like that? ask yourselves that, honestly.

its simple actually. People afraid neils going to pay2win route in long term. Adding more cosmetic is the safest way for now. people aint investing money in game that barely has any content, repetitive grind but boring as hell.

Adding an exp bosster is alright, adding speed/damage boost is not. if u cant even use your brain why dmg/speed is Overpowered, perhaps u need brain surgery. Ammo Box is alright for some but that will destroy the point of the game to looting, using market and all. Let me ask you, ghost ammo in df1 cost $200 dollar. Do you think neils going to put that price in Df2. definitely not.He will make it cheap and people will buy it, destroying the meaning of looting and buying ammo in market. Its not game breaking but that is the start of pay2win route. Adding ammo box(9,999 rounds in 1 stack) also nice but some will oppose because of the same reason i said with ghost ammo. Perhaps you need to use your brain a bit if u still dont understand. Just because its free to play it doesnt mean it cant generate money without any pay2win or locked feature. Gold Membership is the most efficient way to makes money but before that, he need to make some real promising deal, and that is giving us a good content. and he is proving it by making open world update and lvl 50 content. i bet after all that, GM will appear. To be honest, adding ammo box, people will still buy it while complaining.

if the game has a good content, people will buy the cosmetic, the premium item( exp boost) nevertheless. Look at warframe. Do it special boss key area that we need to access? nope. Do it has premium loot box to unlock content? nope. Do it has any premium that player need to buy in order to access the game? nope. so far, its just cosmetic.

You're just salty kid who just label people stupid and idiot and act all mighty think yourself are the the best and the good fan base.

No one actually directly oppose the idea, perhaps in early days, YES. that is because the game is not promising and dont have content. But with current development? people will want to support it. in fact, before at peak it has like 200-500 player, and now 1.5k player. that is a good amount and showing how the game is growing at good pace.

before u attack me and said im an idiot by saying you're not suggesting any pay2win. I never said you suggesting pay2win, I say we dont need any special locked feature. Its direct bullshet. Just because Neils did not add pay2win element, if he put locked feature element, player will still mad and leave the game and the game cant even grow bigger as it will have small player base.

you're just a trash who likes to look down on people and think yourself are the greatest. Grow up kid. You wanna debate, come to discord in df2. I wanna see you find anyone who oppose the idea adding more cosmetic, adding gold membership, adding special cosmetic time limited. People only oppose a pay2win, locked feature. As long the revenue that Neils want to add dont have those element, its gonna sells like hot cakes.

Salty over people who complain about upgrade stash and all, saying it like that is half of playerbase think like that. smh. what a kid. And maybe you dont read all this since you trash talk me before, let me say again. NOBODY GONNA INVEST THEIR MONEY IN A GAME THEY DONT EVEN BELIEVE IT IS GOOD AND BARELY HAS ANY CONTENT. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE COMPLAIN WHY THERE IS STASH UPGRADE AND THE PRICE OF COSMETIC AT 500 CREDIT(19,99 DOLLAR) IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EXPENSIVE. IF THIS GAME HAS GOOD AND LOT OF CONTENT, YOU MIGHT SEE A FEW COMPLAIN ABOUT IT BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY IT NEVERTHELESS LIKE A HOT CAKES.

there you go, do that get through your tiny brain who cant even comprehend simple things?

[Rat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lego-si:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

... .......................................................................... logic? the game is free... to play.. and every time anyone suggests for a way for Neil to make any sort of decent profit.. people go crazy. all of you act like a few cosmetics which most people seem to not buy.. at all. I have them all. every time I see people not even 1 out of 4 have any cosmetics on... or they have 1 or 2 things that are cosmetic. you people act like wanting to support the game is bad? add a premium that gives some exp? shot down. add special keys for loot boxes for special cosmetics? again mostly shot down.. some did agree. add some sort of booster? shot down... even had some complain about being able to have a bigger storage. you expect the server to keep running and Neil to be able to live off thin air? grow up. seen people even complain about paying 100-200 credits for a damn cosmetics.. yet people spend hundreds of dollars on csgo skins like it is no problem... damn... I feel bad for this developer truly... he deserves to make a living too. ghost ammo? how is that pay to win... look at df1 you think ghost ammo was good? you could use all that ammo in 1h tops. basically.... it really would not impact the game much at all... yet some act like it will completely ruin the game... not sure why... at is it... 4000 credits is the largest package you can buy on this game.. for 99.99 USD ... with that you could probably get all the cosmetics... I have seem people turn their heads at buying even the smallest package for a cosmetic. how is Neil going to be able to keep the game running of people / stuff like that? ask yourselves that, honestly.

Im so glad you want to kill the elite/rare enhancer market with your purchasable xp boosters. You realize the people who play csgo also have a huge community of beggars and cryers who don't want to spend money right? The people buying those ludicriously priced items are not the same as the cheapscapes of this game. I supported Neil with the 4000 credit bundle, dont act as if we're as rare as you think, you find many more in the discord channel. This game is still in early stages of developement, which makes everyone nervous of spending their money on what is available

a market... in which Neil doesnt make a penny towards to support himself... or anyone who works with him, or the servers in which this game runs on. .... both can coexist in the game... just like they do in df1.. however it is a bit different. still the same more or less.

[Karam]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lego-si:

Im so glad you want to kill the elite/rare enhancer market with your purchasable xp boosters. You realize the people who play csgo also have a huge community of beggars and cryers who don't want to spend money right? The people buying those ludicriously priced items are not the same as the cheapscapes of this game. I supported Neil with the 4000 credit bundle, dont act as if we're as rare as you think, you find many more in the discord channel. This game is still in early stages of developement, which makes everyone nervous of spending their money on what is available

a market... in which Neil doesnt make a penny towards to support himself... or anyone who works with him, or the servers in which this game runs on. .... both can coexist in the game... just like they do in df1.. however it is a bit different. still the same more or less.

You destroy the elite market you destroy the will for those who grind the elites.Be aware those who grind the elites are mostly players who have invested a lot of time in the game and plan on investing lots more, so they're highly more likely to be the ones who purchse cosmetic items as they will stick with the game for a while

[Rat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lego-si:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von giftw15:

a market... in which Neil doesnt make a penny towards to support himself... or anyone who works with him, or the servers in which this game runs on. .... both can coexist in the game... just like they do in df1.. however it is a bit different. still the same more or less.

You destroy the elite market you destroy the will for those who grind the elites.Be aware those who grind the elites are mostly players who have invested a lot of time in the game and plan on investing lots more, so they're highly more likely to be the ones who purchse cosmetic items as they will stick with the game for a while

not exactly... at all... but oh well. I'll let you carry on with ur ill mindset over things. no point in trying to make you see clearly, if you refuse to in the first place.

[Sean Ingram]

You don't even know Admin's financials so you're talking out of your ass.

[►Elims☻Etagloc◄]

FUNNY thing that now we even have GOLD MEMBERSHIP like DF1 hahahahha.

[Grahf]

They already made the game P2W with the change to the loot boxes and credits. Most players abandoned the game besides the cult followers or spent to much time and money or both lol.