DRAGON QUEST® XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age™

DRAGON QUEST® XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age™

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Ambrosius Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:10am
Erik dual wield is funnily strong
Dual wield + Falcon Knife + (Divide skill) + oomphle is completely hilarious. I wonder what happens if you get a second Falcon Knife for him to equip. This does more than his cobra strike + victimiser or sleeper hit + persecuter by twice which is entirely RNG if the enemy gets the status affect or not.

If you guys are wondering what I'm talking about, dual wield lets him attack twice, Falcon knife let's him do one extra hit so that's 3 hits multiply that by 3 with his Divide skill (triple attacks) which is 9x hits. With oomphle at level 30 I'm doing 75+~ damage per hit and times that by 9 which is around 675 damage in one turn, well. That's a lotta damage when Veronica only does at most 100~ per spell.
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TommyEV Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:19am 
A second falcon will do nothing, There's a 3 hit limit, as far as I know.
Ambrosius Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:20am 
Here's a screenshot of how it looks like, forgot I had pepped up when I did around 75+ damage per hit. It's still 60 per hit (or 540 still a huge damage) and because it's 9 hits in one turn you have a higher chance of critting I believe (screenshot shows one of the hits critting for around 100).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1507565158
Ambrosius Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by TommyEV:
A second falcon will do nothing, There's a 3 hit limit, as far as I know.

Ah damn that would be crazy funny if there wasn't and you were doing 12 hits instead of 9, that'd be hilariously OP. Oh well. Thanks for clarifying!
RowdyRetroMoose Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:29am 
Nope, double falcon does work. I never saw another falcon knife earring, but two falcon swords does 4 hits.
TommyEV Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by RowdyRetroMoose:
Nope, double falcon does work. I never saw another falcon knife earring, but two falcon swords does 4 hits.
I haven't tested myself. I guess the person I heard it from was wrong.

You have sometesting to do, OP.
Ambrosius Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by TommyEV:
Originally posted by RowdyRetroMoose:
Nope, double falcon does work. I never saw another falcon knife earring, but two falcon swords does 4 hits.
I haven't tested myself. I guess the person I heard it from was wrong.

You have sometesting to do, OP.

Hahahaha that is if I can find another copy of falcon knife earrings hopefully.
Neosuduno Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:49am 
Want to make it better, plop a crit boost like the Assassin card with a +3 on it. Increases both Deftness and adds flat crit rates. I get crits every second or so attack. Use doppelganger before that, and you have a sizable chance to murder whatever is infront of you. I got FOUR crits off with one doppelganger attack once. Sure they are not as powerful as crits from other weapons, but bloody 'ell are they frequent and fun.
Last edited by Neosuduno; Sep 9, 2018 @ 8:06am
Lozzle Sep 9, 2018 @ 3:35am 
Originally posted by Ambrosius:
Here's a screenshot of how it looks like, forgot I had pepped up when I did around 75+ damage per hit. It's still 60 per hit (or 540 still a huge damage) and because it's 9 hits in one turn you have a higher chance of critting I believe (screenshot shows one of the hits critting for around 100).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1507565158

HE HAD A FAMILY
Lust Sep 9, 2018 @ 4:04am 
So two questions then, where do you get that knife and earring? I'm in the middle of phnom penh (spelling?) story stuff but I've been exploring the world and zooming around a lot so I'd like to pick these up asap lol.

Secondly the only thing I've seen do more damage than that is a 4 person giga slash pep power.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075736042/screenshot/943956721801508986
Ambrosius Sep 9, 2018 @ 4:23am 
Originally posted by Lust and Lace:
So two questions then, where do you get that knife and earring? I'm in the middle of phnom penh (spelling?) story stuff but I've been exploring the world and zooming around a lot so I'd like to pick these up asap lol.

Secondly the only thing I've seen do more damage than that is a 4 person giga slash pep power.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075736042/screenshot/943956721801508986

The Falcon Knife Earring is a dagger, when but once you have the ability to unlock and open the red doors in Puerto Valor a chest will contain the knife, which you aren't very far from, very close to unlocking the ability to, just progress the main story.

Edit: Also with pepped up I can outdamage that, and this setup requires no rng like pep up or status effects on enemies to do large damage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1507579492
Last edited by Ambrosius; Sep 9, 2018 @ 4:26am
Lust Sep 9, 2018 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Ambrosius:
Originally posted by Lust and Lace:
So two questions then, where do you get that knife and earring? I'm in the middle of phnom penh (spelling?) story stuff but I've been exploring the world and zooming around a lot so I'd like to pick these up asap lol.

Secondly the only thing I've seen do more damage than that is a 4 person giga slash pep power.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075736042/screenshot/943956721801508986

The Falcon Knife Earring is a dagger, when but once you have the ability to unlock and open the red doors in Puerto Valor a chest will contain the knife, which you aren't very far from, very close to unlocking the ability to, just progress the main story.

Ah okay thank you, that's all I needed to know. I'm currently in the little dungeon for the area but that boss is wicked awful with hard monsters on ahaha.

Going to need to grind out another level or two before a second attempt because a party of level 25-27 just isn't strong enough to beat her yet.
Ambrosius Sep 9, 2018 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Lust and Lace:
Originally posted by Ambrosius:

The Falcon Knife Earring is a dagger, when but once you have the ability to unlock and open the red doors in Puerto Valor a chest will contain the knife, which you aren't very far from, very close to unlocking the ability to, just progress the main story.

Ah okay thank you, that's all I needed to know. I'm currently in the little dungeon for the area but that boss is wicked awful with hard monsters on ahaha.

Going to need to grind out another level or two before a second attempt because a party of level 25-27 just isn't strong enough to beat her yet.

I had a bit of trouble in that dungeon as well, I was able to beat her albeit a tad annoying at around level 28 and under? I can't remember but I had a party of the MC, Rab, Serena, and Sylvando. I had Serena keep up kabuff (two stacks) + hymn of fire and putting up the anti-status ability on Sylvando because he has an AoE heal and an ability to slap cure your party members from status effect. Rab kept up his 22 hp regen per turn when he can and do damage. Serena healed and MC and Sylv would also contribute damage but do heals if needed. She'll die eventually.
Lust Sep 9, 2018 @ 4:39am 
Originally posted by Ambrosius:
Originally posted by Lust and Lace:

Ah okay thank you, that's all I needed to know. I'm currently in the little dungeon for the area but that boss is wicked awful with hard monsters on ahaha.

Going to need to grind out another level or two before a second attempt because a party of level 25-27 just isn't strong enough to beat her yet.

I had a bit of trouble in that dungeon as well, I was able to beat her albeit a tad annoying at around level 28 and under? I can't remember but I had a party of the MC, Rab, Serena, and Sylvando. I had Serena keep up kabuff (two stacks) + hymn of fire and putting up the anti-status ability on Sylvando because he has an AoE heal and an ability to slap cure your party members from status effect. Rab kept up his 22 hp regen per turn when he can and do damage. Serena healed and MC and Sylv would also contribute damage but do heals if needed. She'll die eventually.


That's a very good strategy I had been using Jade, Hero, Syl and Rab but even with the double AoE heals she just stacks too much damage too fast even with Sylv's slow spell applied twice. It really does seem that I should get a level or two on everyone and switch Serena for her Fire Hymn so thanks very much for the tip haha.

And I thought that Octopus was hard LOL! Hard monsters is so damned amazing! :mhwgood:
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Date Posted: Sep 9, 2018 @ 2:10am
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