The inclusion of a flamboyantly gay character...

[GarnetDivine]

Honestly sat well with me, which caught me off guard. As sad and pitiful as it sounds, Dragon Quest XI helped me in a time where social media and the news run rampant with filling your head with stereotypical tropes and how you should perceive these people.

I grew up and still live in the south and on the Bible Belt of the USA, so "gay" isn't something that is really tolerated lightly. I'm not homophobic by any means and I've known plenty of gay people, but in recent years I found myself being more and more put-off by the idea of gay culture to the point to where I've actively avoided it. Social media as well as my own ignorance is to blame for that. I can admit it.

Having Sylvando in my party at first made me groan and roll my eyes. "Really? Here, too?" I thought to myself. But as I played and as I got to know the character he grew on me and quickly became my favorite. He was a beacon of hope in the darker parts of the story and I kept thinking, "I want and need a friend like Sylvando."

I may be putting myself up there to be crucified for this, but I want to thank Square Enix for taking me out of my box and pushing me towards cultures and lifestyles that I may have otherwise ended up resenting out of sheer ignorance. It shouldn't take a video game to make me break through that barrier, but here I am.

[Adventuring Through Games]

Escrito originalmente por Farkenel:

gimme a break. The character is nothing more than the token gay guy. And he's obnoxious.

First off, his sexuality is ambiguous. Sounds like you're just salty about a DQ having a fabulous, flamboyant man.

[Nat20]

Sylvando is badass. Guys are just scared about how he makes them feel.

[Adventuring Through Games]

Escrito originalmente por Farkenel:

Escrito originalmente por Phantom Thief of Cummies:

First off, his sexuality is ambiguous.

yaaaaaaaaaaaa, no. If you think it's up for debate if he is gay you're painfuilly stupid.

Escrito originalmente por Phantom Thief of Cummies:

Sounds like you're just salty about a DQ having a fabulous, flamboyant man.

Sounds like you're so brain dead you can't even use pop culture victim catch phrases like " salty" in an appropriate context. I'm not "salty". I'm simply pointing out the gay agenda /movement insists on injecting the token gay person into every single thing these days, and this character is it. Also I find him obnoxious.

News flash: there are hetero guys who dress and act flamboyantly. "MuH gay Ag3ndA" is a pretty pathetic reason to get upset. Pretty sure there aren't even any gay writers on the dev team, so it's not even an accurate complaint. A bit of education would do wonders to cure your bigotry.

[Maximum Sloth]

I don't mind gay stuff if it's just there, and not pushed. Like anything.

I find it unfortunate that in your comment you feel as if you're being ignorant for not accepting a choice in lifestyle placed before you that is not the norm (e.g. homosexuality).

Accepting something because one is told to, is ignorant, and intellectually weak.(I am NOT saying this about you, or asserting that you have done so)

If one disagrees with something, based on personal convictions, it is perfectly fine, and acceptable. It does not make one ignorant.

Ignorance comes when one discriminates against people because of those convictions, tries to force those convictions on others through peer pressure etc., without reason.

Likewise, ignorance comes when one labels others merely because they disagree, and seeks to call those people unintelligent based solely on a difference in opinion.

My point being that disagreeing with homosexuality as a lifestyle choice for some reason, standing alone, is not ignorant.

[-=BIA=- Capt.BlackMage]

Escrito originalmente por VengeancExZero:

Honestly sat well with me, which caught me off guard. As sad and pitiful as it sounds, Dragon Quest XI helped me in a time where social media and the news run rampant with filling your head with stereotypical tropes and how you should perceive these people.

I grew up and still live in the south and on the Bible Belt of the USA, so "gay" isn't something that is really tolerated lightly. I'm not homophobic by any means and I've known plenty of gay people, but in recent years I found myself being more and more put-off by the idea of gay culture to the point to where I've actively avoided it. Social media as well as my own ignorance is to blame for that. I can admit it.

Having Sylvando in my party at first made me groan and roll my eyes. "Really? Here, too?" I thought to myself. But as I played and as I got to know the character he grew on me and quickly became my favorite. He was a beacon of hope in the darker parts of the story and I kept thinking, "I want and need a friend like Sylvando."

I may be putting myself up there to be crucified for this, but I want to thank Square Enix for taking me out of my box and pushing me towards cultures and lifestyles that I may have otherwise ended up resenting out of sheer ignorance. It shouldn't take a video game to make me break through that barrier, but here I am.

Give Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky a try if you like Sylvando, Youll likely love Olivier though he's more bi than gay.

[Dixon Sider]

I cant stand the screaming. Its like nails on a chalkboard

[ShinkuTear]

We got Veronica and Eric for sass, snark, and all that "I'm smarter than this and gonna call you out on it" stuff. We got Serena for a calm and gentle approach. Then we get Sylvy for some energy and liveliness.

Regardless of what Sylv's sexuality is supposed to be he brings something the party didn't have, and even in the scenes before he joins the party he is already showing that he is far more than "just" a flamboyant jester. I like it :D

[PlayingWith1Hand]

PLOT TWIST: Sylvando is a TRAP.

[abstractAPPLE]

I think he is annoying and breaks the immersion of the game for the sake of being "fun".
Wich he isn't.
I guess it really depends on the personal preference but i could have gone well without him (especially without the parade scene that comes near the end of the game).

[Doomerang]

I like him, but I also don't give one CRAP about pandering to demographics. The fact that he's gay means nothing to me. Liking Sylvando only because he's gay only just seems like worthless virtue signalling. He's not defined by his "gayness." it's not a good or bad trait about him because we honestly should not give 2 craps about someones sexuality. Being openly hostile or congratulating it are both equally stupid. But the people that shout from the rooftops about how great being gay is actually annoy me more, as it's just virtue signalling. And virtue signallers are the most likely people to stab you in the back.

At least the people who are hostile are honest and don't pretend to virtue signal that they are good people with as little effort as possible.

[GarnetDivine]

Escrito originalmente por Doomerang:

I like him, but I also don't give one CRAP about pandering to demographics. The fact that he's gay means nothing to me. Liking Sylvando only because he's gay only just seems like worthless virtue signalling. He's not defined by his "gayness." it's not a good or bad trait about him because we honestly should not give 2 craps about someones sexuality. Being openly hostile or congratulating it are both equally stupid. But the people that shout from the rooftops about how great being gay is actually annoy me more, as it's just virtue signalling. And virtue signallers are the most likely people to stab you in the back.

At least the people who are hostile are honest and don't pretend to virtue signal that they are good people with as little effort as possible.

I think you missed a few opportunities to use your newly learned phrase "virtue signaling" in that post. Want to edit it and add more?