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Your predecessor in DQXI is ErdWIN though, not Erdrick. You're Erdrick, and the title is later given to the DQIII hero too.
Right, kept making that same name mistake earlier.
Erdrea is an ancient form of the world of Alefgard/Lorasia, or DQ1+2. Zoma of DQ3 shows up some time after DQ11 and somehow Yggdragon is put out of the picture. The fissure between Alefgard and the Earth-like world of DQ3 forms, and this serves the purposes of both Zoma (who wants to extend his reach) and the goddess Rubiss (who isn't getting any help in Alefgard).
After Ortega's son comes along and saves the day (and is given the title of Erdrick/Roto), the fissure is closed up and the two worlds lose all connection. In time, the fallen Yggdragon becomes the king dragon of DQ1. Descendent of DQ3 Erdrick (not the same bloodline as DQ11 Erdrick) saves the day, and gets to making babies around the world.
DQ2 shows up and there's a world tree again (on a very small island).
The two big extra pieces are the sphere/orb of light and the dragon queen of the Earthlike world that gave it to Ortega's son. The dragon queen gave her orb of light to the hero and then died. Two things happen:
1) The orb goes to Alefgard and becomes the light of that world long enough for it to be stolen in DQ1 and return the world to darkness. After the king dragon/Yggdragon is defeated in DQ1, the orb is returned to Tantegel/Radutorm, but isn't still around in DQ2 -- where a world tree has reappeared and may be the new source of light.
2) Dead ol' dragon queen left behind an egg in the Earthlike world. Its hatching heralded the birth of a new world, and kicks off the Zenithian universe. It doesn't mean the world of DQ3 is the world of DQ4-6 -- but that the world of DQ4-6 was created by a dragon born in the DQ3 world. The world of DQ3 loses its dragon and gradually becomes a very boring place with cafes and fast food and internet comments. Lamia foresees tedious arguments about grammar and ditches in a hurry for the world of DQ8 where there may be demons but at least there aren't Tide or cinnamon challenges.
far as I'm aware there wasn't really any connection other then players attempting to make them for the worlds of 4-9 to the world of 1-3 and now 11. They may exist in the same universe kinda thing but not neccessarily directly connected coming from what Empyrea tells the party and player in 8.
General themes of course are shared across the games but that's what makes DQ, well DQ, they don't really change and you know what to expect when you get one. The details of the story themeselves may be different but the concepts aren't.
If anything 11 is basically a return to the world of erdrick that the series started with and hasn't touched since 3 simply due to it kind of running it's course, 3 was the prequel then 1 then 2 finished it, with 11 being an even further prequel to 3, we have no idea how much time has passed between them (from the end of 11 to the beginning of 3) only that it's long enough for other "heroes" to rise up be inspired by the legend of the luminary and become heroes themselves.
Unless due to the scenes at the very end there's some kind of wonky parralel timeline stuff going on.
Remember how everyone have deja vu in the world about the previous timeline?
Its like they fused together and created a new timeline foreveryone.
Or else, lets be honest, it would be pretty horrible to abandon everyone back in the first timeline- not changing anything, while the hero just moves to a new timeline in which everything he wants is given to him, no I think the deja vu on everyone is to let the player know: this is a fused timeline in which everyone in the world is in now. Dont worry you didnt abandon anyone in the old world- this is the old and new world.
I also suspect Ortega in this new timeline actually was Erdwin.
And Serenica was the purple hair mother. Why else have the mother with purple hair, just after a cutscene with serenica, with purple hair? And their son with black spikey hair, just after we see Erdwin with black spikey hair?
Nah I think they created a new timeline in which just before Erdwin get betrayed and stabbed, they get away from the world: thus the sword of light, Calmos,Mordecan etc is still left in that world while they moved to a new -mainly DQ3. This also means I think Erdwin dies AGAIN in DQ 3 but this time he has left the world a son that can take up the sword, so he hasnt really "died".
Btw I almost forgot, the purple haired woman put on the shelf 1 out of 2 books about the luminary.
Well, who would know the adventure better than Serenica herself?
She took part in the first luminary trial, and knows about the second as well.
I cant come up with anyone else who could in detail write down the whole adventure beside her.
I don't think Ortega is Erdwin though, perhaps a descendant or not even related and just someone like Irwin (the father of 11) a good fighter/swordsman that is a hero. It's possible the mother is a descendant, but again unlikely the mother had purple hair and the same outfit in 3 and with the exception of her reading the book thing it's also an updated version of 3 (which actually makes me wish we'd get a modern remake of 1-3)
As for the black spikey hair, again nah the artwork of toriyama and the heroes of 1-3 all had that look, one could actually say Erdwin was given that look BECAUSE that's typically how the hero is protrayed in DQ. Even 8 had that his was just "held down" by his bandana. Think Goku/Gohan of Dragon ball and you'd pretty much have the "look" of the typical MC of DQ series.
Serenica wouldn't really know of the journey of 11, she was the timekeeper for most of it, the person who would know is of course the Seer, but with what happens he's not around to "write the story", so realisticaly it's probably along the lines of our own myths and legends that someone gets around to writing the story and it gets passed on through the books, and may or may not be entirely accurate. Chances are the "book about 11" doesn't include the rewinding of time as the timeline that would come from the book wouldn't neccessarily know about it. Much like how in 11 the world didn't know the truth about Erdwin's death or Erdwin's Latern and just went off the idea that it was Erdwin who put it there, when in reality it was Serenica and it wasn't Erdwin "watching over the world" but was the body of Calasmos sealed away.
Even if losing his luminary powers actually stuck this time for some reason, it doesn't really matter. It's hereditary, and it only manifests when needed.
Either that or my brain still is melting from all the nostalgia I have to playing the entire DQ series a year ago.
I think it was more simple put: they celebrated 30 year anniversary and wanted newcomers to play the old games, so they added it - the old games- (for the japanese audience as a DLC code for ps4) but how will you make young people play through old games, even if updated with android graphics?
you tie DQ 11 into with DQ 3 which is a prequal to DQ 1 and 2. Genius!
Now if that was Serenica, in a new timeline, the story is still basically going, but thrugh her new family and ancestors.
thats why I still think it was her, in a new timeline.
And this time they, serenica and erdwin, got what they wanted- a new world, and this time they got their "happy ending" which was a family in it.
I dont buy into showing serenica and erdwin holding hands, and just adding a DQ 3 intro for no real reasons, with a purple haired woman and black spikey haired boy reading about two 2 luminary books- as what? just hearing about some legend from another world?! why would that change anything? that would be one of the worst ties into dq 3 ever, if that was true. they might as well just scrap the cutscene all together then. pointless. and as well the serenica and erdwin scene.
I still say it (the books) was about her husbands adventure and the hero (from DQ 11) who saved her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airuF-EuSdw&t=1m55s
The Hero of Dragon Quest III almost certainly is the Luminary of that era even if he's no longer called that. Also as you suggest, it's incredibly unlikely that the Luminary actually lost the power of the Luminary when he gave it to Serenica. She likely only has it temporarily and even while she has it? The Luminary likely still has it himself, the game made very clear that the power is a part of him and it cannot be taken, it likely similarly cannot be discarded.
What I think is less obvious, is the other timelines that were created potentially lead to the other trilogies. The first timeline, you defeat Mordegon and everyone still alive lives happily ever after.
When the Luminary goes back in time, that timeline still continues, but without the Luminary and without Veronica, and with Erdwins lantern destroyed. Serenica, likely, never recovers.
Then, you have the timeline where Serenica is given the Sword of Light and returns to Erdwin and appears to have saved his life - so do they defeat Mordegon and Calasmos? That also starts a very different chain of events.
There's not enough info to go on of course, but I think you could argue that DQ11 can be the catalyst for all of the DQ trilogies.
After seeing the true ending a couple days ago, I came up with the pretty much the same theory.
In the first timline, there is no more Luminary and there is no more sword of light. I think this timeline leads to the events of DQ VII, DQ VIII and DQ IX.
In the third timeline, everything plays out differently because Serenica went back in time to save Erdwin. I think this timeline goes through the Zenthinian Trilogy. Yddragon becomes the master over Zenthenia and the sword of light becomes the Zenthenian Sword and the Luminary is called the Chosen One.
Yeah, there is no real evidence to say this is true. Though there had to be a reason why the writers went out of the way to write in the timelines especially the 3rd one.