DRAGON QUEST® XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age™

DRAGON QUEST® XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age™

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Stealknight Sep 24, 2018 @ 7:20am
Stratagy for Dora-in-Grey(Draconian)
So how do you stop her from charming to death your party? Im thinking at this point two Protective pendants +3 on each character for a 50% reduction in beguilment. My Main party is MC Erik Jade and Veronica 37-39 lvl
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so, sylvando has a skill that let you cure charm.
serena has a spell that makes a character immune to any status ailiments.
you see the tactic already?

Serena make Sylvando immune. Sylvando can now cure anyone charmed- since he will never be.
Sylvanco can also use dance that does heal for whole party.

in other words, Sylvando/Serena is a must, then you have 2 party members attacking, non stop. she hits hard, but doesnt have much health.
So keep jade or erik on a non stop offensive. And if sylvando has time over for something extra, oomph Jade or Erik.

I did this fight at 31 or 32 btw.

ps! and before you say, why not let serena make whole party immune to status ailiments? well... 1. it doesnt last forever. 2 you want to keep healing with her as much as possible.
you might even want to swap in rab over your dps character sometimes and use rain of healing to give every party member 22 hp per turn to keep up the healing and then swap him out for erik or jade again.
Last edited by [NGNS-SWE] ⚡ Quezkatolen ⚡; Sep 24, 2018 @ 7:27am
Stealknight Sep 25, 2018 @ 7:26am 
god I hate those two ugg
Debrel Sep 25, 2018 @ 8:29am 
by this point you can also buy or forge an accessory that gives you resistance to beguilement, you should give that (maybe two of them) to Sylvando.
Yiasmat Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:08am 
1. your main party doesn't have a healer? why? unless you use the mc as the healer... but then you throw away your best dps...
2. as stated: sylvando is a must. she doesn`t have that much health, so sylvando + both healers (serena and rob) + dd is quite enough to stay at max health/buffs all the time and killing her within a reasonable time.

as for the pendants: i had them and dora hit every single beguile she cast i still won the fight without any problems with my strat.

double edit: try and beat her now. do not overlevel too much here. i was really dissapointed since i did overlevel and so the next 10 bosses were first tries. which i really disliked for hard mode...
Last edited by Yiasmat; Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:11am
K4ever Sep 30, 2018 @ 11:11pm 
I just beat her with a party on level 29. After several hours of trial and error, I thought that it may be possible to just tank against her, and hope that at least you have one party member alive. I did that and I beat her. Still it didnt feel right, since I depended on the RNG. I wanted to fight her again, but I thought that whenever I got anyone charmed i could just use the "angel bell" item and get rid of the mesmerize effect. Nope, it didnt work. Not even attacking my own party members affected with it worked.
I tried to do the selena, sylvando status protect/heal team strat, but at this point I still depended on the RNG. Sometimes right at the start of the battle Dora would just decide to throw her laser, and one shot either sylvando or selena with her finger of doom. Or she will have again the first turn and charm either sylvando or selena right away.
Only way Im thinking I could have beaten her 100% of the time would be to get 4 agility rings+3, rectify selena and sylvando skill points in order to give them max agility, and I guess this would have given them the first turns all the time. But if after this that still wasnt the case, then my last resort option would have been to grind ... and I hate that.

Also, I havent explored the snow area kingdom yet. I was thinking in using Zoom and get the hell out of the canvas dimension area, go to the snow area, do as much as possible over there, get better equipment, gain levels, etc ... and then come back and try to beat her for the 99th time.

It really sucks that at level 29 there isnt a spell to debuff physical attacks. She hits like a b-itch.
Last edited by K4ever; Sep 30, 2018 @ 11:12pm
Fyk0 Oct 1, 2018 @ 4:38am 
Damn you guys cleared it low level. I'm lvl 36 and still struggling, being unlucky with desperate attacks and charm effects. I hate how bosses can use "desperate" attacks on very high health and they cause so much pressure with their triple turns you can't really afford to spend multiple turns on res or you just die to the AoE laser. I hope I don't need to grind more, I have already done it for hours.
Stealknight Oct 1, 2018 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by K4ever:
I just beat her with a party on level 29. After several hours of trial and error, I thought that it may be possible to just tank against her, and hope that at least you have one party member alive. I did that and I beat her. Still it didnt feel right, since I depended on the RNG. I wanted to fight her again, but I thought that whenever I got anyone charmed i could just use the "angel bell" item and get rid of the mesmerize effect. Nope, it didnt work. Not even attacking my own party members affected with it worked.
I tried to do the selena, sylvando status protect/heal team strat, but at this point I still depended on the RNG. Sometimes right at the start of the battle Dora would just decide to throw her laser, and one shot either sylvando or selena with her finger of doom. Or she will have again the first turn and charm either sylvando or selena right away.
Only way Im thinking I could have beaten her 100% of the time would be to get 4 agility rings+3, rectify selena and sylvando skill points in order to give them max agility, and I guess this would have given them the first turns all the time. But if after this that still wasnt the case, then my last resort option would have been to grind ... and I hate that.

Also, I havent explored the snow area kingdom yet. I was thinking in using Zoom and get the hell out of the canvas dimension area, go to the snow area, do as much as possible over there, get better equipment, gain levels, etc ... and then come back and try to beat her for the 99th time.

It really sucks that at level 29 there isnt a spell to debuff physical attacks. She hits like a b-itch.
I havent played in a week but I farmed a ton of Str and life seeds and I can probably beat her lol. Also made a bunch of the Protective pendants +3 to for each character. I'll have give her a try again today or tomorrow.
Fyk0 Oct 1, 2018 @ 10:00am 
I managed to beat her today at level 36 using MC, Serena, Veronica and Jade. Debuffed defence and damage on Veronica, otherwise defending on her every turn. Used Serena to protect MC and herself from charm since I had no time to keep more characters protected, otherwise multi heal. Jade and MC did the damage. I had Arboria's Blessing ready when the battle began which also helped a lot.
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K4ever Oct 1, 2018 @ 11:40am 
Its a pain the butt to not have an item, accessory or equipment that prevents getting mesmerized all the time. The most you can pray to get is an anticharm accesory +3 that when wearing 2 of them, you can get a 50 DAMN % chance of not getting mesmerized. Still not enough!
Kabuff + 2 on every party member, as well as +2 max agility and having her be -2 of agility, dont do ANYTHING. On the contrary, its actually worse. Of course you may get an extra turn each character during that specific round, but guess what? ... She will also get a double turn then! That means she will attack you 6 times in a row. By this point all your party members have been wiped out.
Like I said, I beat her at level 28, then came back at level 29 in order to beat her "properly" without the RNG factor. Still couldnt do it without a little bit of luck.
Anacra Oct 1, 2018 @ 8:01pm 
In Draconian mode at level 25/26. Used Wild Side pep that powers up Erik. After that it was just keeping up the damage while Sap was applied on the boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifL2S0AkxA4
K4ever Oct 1, 2018 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Anacra:
In Draconian mode at level 25/26. Used Wild Side pep that powers up Erik. After that it was just keeping up the damage while Sap was applied on the boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifL2S0AkxA4

Yeah, I know pep abilities may help tremendously during fights like this.
I just dont take them into consideration, because its more like a random factor.
Having said that, now Im open to carefully see all my party member's peps and see how I can the get the most out of it. After all we are playing on draconian, so we SHOULD USE EVERY FEATURE at our disposal.

For me, grinding is a cheap last resort move.
Anacra Oct 1, 2018 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by K4ever:
Yeah, I know pep abilities may help tremendously during fights like this.
I just dont take them into consideration, because its more like a random factor.
Having said that, now Im open to carefully see all my party member's peps and see how I can the get the most out of it. After all we are playing on draconian, so we SHOULD USE EVERY FEATURE at our disposal.

For me, grinding is a cheap last resort move.
Yeah, I myself don't like using PEP coz of the grindy and randomish nature of it. But since some of these boss fights are already RNG dependent, we might as well give ourselves the best chance.
shinryu495 Oct 1, 2018 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by Anacra:
Originally posted by K4ever:
Yeah, I know pep abilities may help tremendously during fights like this.
I just dont take them into consideration, because its more like a random factor.
Having said that, now Im open to carefully see all my party member's peps and see how I can the get the most out of it. After all we are playing on draconian, so we SHOULD USE EVERY FEATURE at our disposal.

For me, grinding is a cheap last resort move.
Yeah, I myself don't like using PEP coz of the grindy and randomish nature of it. But since some of these boss fights are already RNG dependent, we might as well give ourselves the best chance.
You might be able to say its not as random since the MC can pep up whenever he wants. It can really help getting peps like brownie boost and the likes.
K4ever Oct 1, 2018 @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by shinryu495:
Originally posted by Anacra:
Yeah, I myself don't like using PEP coz of the grindy and randomish nature of it. But since some of these boss fights are already RNG dependent, we might as well give ourselves the best chance.
You might be able to say its not as random since the MC can pep up whenever he wants. It can really help getting peps like brownie boost and the likes.
The only grindy part of it is just getting the specific characters pep by fighting over and over. Then you can just switch them and keep them in the background for later use.
I never thought of this as a FAIR strategy because I was depending on abilities not normally available, but hey ... it actually adds another layer of strategy to your repertoire of tricks.
Gambit Apr 11, 2019 @ 3:46pm 
Well I was level 24 and just had Sylvano and Serena in the party. Tactics for Sylvano and Serena to focus on healing and luminary and Jade to show no mercy. And it worked just fine. I don't think the level matters as much as your equipment and having people like Sylvano who can remove beguiled.

When I say equipment matters, I mean that I had the platinum powersword and other strong items equipped. The majority of strong items were obtained by grinding the casino. It does make a difference to invest time in the casino, but as other posters have pointed out indirectly, being a stronger level may overcome the need for stronger equipment.
Last edited by Gambit; Apr 11, 2019 @ 3:50pm
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