best artes for alphen

[Endarion]

what do you think are the best artes for alphen?

also are there any art for any characters that you think are just bad and are better turned off from the AI?

[Yílõng Má]

Just Reigning Slash charged into Incineration Wave, you don't need any other artes, they're all ♥♥♥♥.

[Endarion]

Originally posted by small good kid:

Just Reigning Slash charged into Incineration Wave, you don't need any other artes, they're all ♥♥♥♥.

yeah wouldn't like to halve the combo damage because i'm spamming a single skill tho

[Vexillarius]

Reigning slash spam is hands down the best dps by a lot. In multi target situations building up combo for a big AOE burning strike or whatever is gonna be better. But against every boss and enemies that have cores reigning slash spam just blows everything else away. Its pretty disappointing really.

[Mykro__]

I agree. Even with spamming Reigning slash, you end up dropping some big 3k+ and over in damage on weakpoint (at least at my level, being 57, not optimal setup and ♥♥♥♥ like that), it's just too good to be ignored or not spammed

[Yukikaze]

Double demon fang is my arte of choice. Similiar output to reigning slash. Less windup. 6 hits vs 1 for building boost strikes. Doesn't launch broken enemies to Rena. Harder to whiff. It does literally everything.

You can even alternate with regular demon fang to keep some combo damage while still doing respectable DPS even across the map vomiting projectiles.

[dustin1280]

I am going to say some combination of reigning slash and double demon fang based on the situation.

[Vexillarius]

Originally posted by Yukikaze:

Double demon fang is my arte of choice. Similiar output to reigning slash. Less windup. 6 hits vs 1 for building boost strikes. Doesn't launch broken enemies to Rena. Harder to whiff. It does literally everything.

Double demon fang doesn't even come close to the same damage output as reigning slash. But your right using reigning slash to kill ♥♥♥♥ that can be launched is trash. You want to use whatever is your favourite combo builder to do finishing strikes. But the next time you go against a boss attack there core with reigning slash and it will hit the core and there body. I was getting between 6k to 12k every 1.8 second or so and that was when i was in the 50s. I'm at level 92 now and get hits that over 20k each. That will chonk a boss or high level enemy down pretty quick.

[Yukikaze]

Originally posted by VEX84:

Originally posted by Yukikaze:

Double demon fang is my arte of choice. Similiar output to reigning slash. Less windup. 6 hits vs 1 for building boost strikes. Doesn't launch broken enemies to Rena. Harder to whiff. It does literally everything.

Double demon fang doesn't even come close to the same damage output as reigning slash. But your right using reigning slash to kill ♥♥♥♥ that can be launched is trash. You want to use whatever is your favourite combo builder to do finishing strikes. But the next time you go against a boss attack there core with reigning slash and it will hit the core and there body. I was getting between 6k to 12k every 1.8 second or so and that was when i was in the 50s. I'm at level 92 now and get hits that over 20k each. That will chonk a boss or high level enemy down pretty quick.

You on that good ♥♥♥♥ i see. Where you buy from? Any arte will hit both the core and the lifebar. They dont directly lose HP from the core hit but it has its own hp bar that breaks and downs them when it hits zero. Its not like its some reigning slash exclusive wizard magic. Hitting the level 99 sword ranker in arena i do approximately the same damage with both artes. Are you comparing your 5* reigning slash to 0* everything else or what? Lol

Albiet I'll concede core breaks are the one thing its not literally amazing at. As most are too high to get hit by the shockwaves. Most of the harder enemies dont really even have cores anyway though.

[Treskittle]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

Originally posted by small good kid:

Just Reigning Slash charged into Incineration Wave, you don't need any other artes, they're all ♥♥♥♥.

yeah wouldn't like to halve the combo damage because i'm spamming a single skill tho

I'm confused, what is this mechanic? Never seen this happen. and I spamn the samne ♥♥♥♥ constantly while playing Moderate/Hard

[Endarion]

Originally posted by Treskittle:

Originally posted by OutSeal:

yeah wouldn't like to halve the combo damage because i'm spamming a single skill tho

I'm confused, what is this mechanic? Never seen this happen. and I spamn the samne ♥♥♥♥ constantly while playing Moderate/Hard

if you use the same art before using at least 3 other arts you go in a penality that reduce everyone penetration stats, and the more you do the more the penalty get worse up to 50% of your penetration so yeah if you spam the same skill over and over you can actually halve your damage output

[Treskittle]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

Originally posted by Treskittle:

I'm confused, what is this mechanic? Never seen this happen. and I spamn the samne ♥♥♥♥ constantly while playing Moderate/Hard

if you use the same art before using at least 3 other arts you go in a penality that reduce everyone penetration stats, and the more you do the more the penalty get worse up to 50% of your penetration so yeah if you spam the same skill over and over you can actually halve your damage output

Penetration only affects crit chance and stagger tho... I'v again never seen this damage reduction. Ah well.

[Endarion]

Originally posted by Treskittle:

Originally posted by OutSeal:

if you use the same art before using at least 3 other arts you go in a penality that reduce everyone penetration stats, and the more you do the more the penalty get worse up to 50% of your penetration so yeah if you spam the same skill over and over you can actually halve your damage output

Penetration only affects crit chance and stagger tho... I'v again never seen this damage reduction. Ah well.

it teaches you about it in the tutorial stages, you can go check the help manual if you missed it so yeah the theory is that you would want to cicle at least 4-5 arts

[Treskittle]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

Originally posted by Treskittle:

Penetration only affects crit chance and stagger tho... I'v again never seen this damage reduction. Ah well.

it teaches you about it in the tutorial stages, you can go check the help manual if you missed it so yeah the theory is that you would want to cicle at least 4-5 arts

Look im tellin you, I spammed Tres Vento/Aqueous Impact the entire game and never once saw damage plummet from it. Yes they didn't combo immediately but once they got popped into the air for lord knows how long, no damage reduction at all. That's why I was REALLY confused by the game's tutorial, never seen this happen, but I HAVE seen the enemy just walk out of a spammed combo before.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by OutSeal:

Originally posted by Treskittle:

I'm confused, what is this mechanic? Never seen this happen. and I spamn the samne ♥♥♥♥ constantly while playing Moderate/Hard

if you use the same art before using at least 3 other arts you go in a penality that reduce everyone penetration stats, and the more you do the more the penalty get worse up to 50% of your penetration so yeah if you spam the same skill over and over you can actually halve your damage output

Nope, you're wrong. The diminishing return is for combo counter not damage. I spam 100 Reigning Slashes on any bosses and my damage isn't even reduced by 1%.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by Treskittle:

Originally posted by OutSeal:

it teaches you about it in the tutorial stages, you can go check the help manual if you missed it so yeah the theory is that you would want to cicle at least 4-5 arts

Look im tellin you, I spammed Tres Vento/Aqueous Impact the entire game and never once saw damage plummet from it. Yes they didn't combo immediately but once they got popped into the air for lord knows how long, no damage reduction at all. That's why I was REALLY confused by the game's tutorial, never seen this happen, but I HAVE seen the enemy just walk out of a spammed combo before.

Yeah, it's just a mistranslation by the dev, there are quite many mistranslation and typo in this game lol.