Spoilers for the 4th Realm with question

[FakeKeima]

So I just got to where Shionne confesses her plan from defeating all the lords and getting the one ring*cough* master core to rule them all. Supposedly you need all the other master cores. So why were the five realms just chilling for the last seven years instead of trying to off each other like Shionne is trying for? They could have made this way more exciting if each realm was trying to invade each other instead of just amassing elemental energy.

[GeminiEclipse]

They are waiting for the Crown Contest. The official Rena sponsored event. Or something like that.

[Maine]

I feel like a lot of potential was wasted with the setting, as much as i like what is here. The lords vying against each other wouldve made for a good storyline and made each lord have more build-up. You beat Balseph and the other lords just leave Calaglia alone, as if taking control wouldnt have ensured they would win the crown contest.

[Marosh]

Why should they do that. That is not how you win the crown contest. Shionnes goal is at this point completly different.

Now you could argue, that sabotage a other lord would mean an advantage. While the logic is true, their culture prevents that.
Ruling over a different realm has no benefit. As of chapter four, you should know, that the realms are manipulated to collect a specific element more effectively. A Water Lord has no use for a fire realm i.e..
You'll get later more information about Renans.

The thing is, the story isn't executed well. A lot of intereseting information is delievered like a side note and not really woven into the overall story. Like they had the overall idea and key milestones, worked on the milestones and slapped it together, while doing only the minimal stuff in connecting the milestones.

[Powercow]

Because it's a contest, not a bloodsport. To the Renans, any Dahnans who die are irrelevant but to take action against another Renan, especially a Renan *lord* is unthinkable.

And I do mean Unthinkable. All Renans have been conditioned that way. This is why Dohalim never even had an inkling that his Renan underling would betray him.

[FakeKeima]

Originally posted by GeminiEclipse:

They are waiting for the Crown Contest. The official Rena sponsored event. Or something like that.

Oh okay I thought the contest has been going on for seven years and was set to end at ten. Guess I should have been paying more attention during the whole balseph arc.

[FakeKeima]

Originally posted by Marosh:

Why should they do that. That is not how you win the crown contest. Shionnes goal is at this point completly different.

Now you could argue, that sabotage a other lord would mean an advantage. While the logic is true, their culture prevents that.
Ruling over a different realm has no benefit. As of chapter four, you should know, that the realms are manipulated to collect a specific element more effectively. A Water Lord has no use for a fire realm i.e..
You'll get later more information about Renans.

The thing is, the story isn't executed well. A lot of intereseting information is delievered like a side note and not really woven into the overall story. Like they had the overall idea and key milestones, worked on the milestones and slapped it together, while doing only the minimal stuff in connecting the milestones.

Okay after scrolling through through the glossary after these comments I get where my memory was wrong. Contest was every seven years with the point of the contest being energy farming. Is Shionne's goal all that different from winning the contest? She wants to gather the master cores to make the ultimate one. She is just stealing it from the five true chosen contestants. Hopefully the fifth/sixth chapter shows her having fight whoever gives out the true master core device.

Powercow, what you say makes sense but didn't Dohalim(FGO Arjuna) show that they had to fight to be the chosen five contestants and that is where he killed his opposition causing some girl to wail giving him scream trauma? Also is his glossary info kind of short for anybody else?

In the end I guess I just need to finish the game to find out the rest.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by Maine:

I feel like a lot of potential was wasted with the setting, as much as i like what is here. The lords vying against each other wouldve made for a good storyline and made each lord have more build-up. You beat Balseph and the other lords just leave Calaglia alone, as if taking control wouldnt have ensured they would win the crown contest.

Wouldn't work, as each lord is assigned a Element for the crown contest, and has to only harvest THAT specific element, them getting other elemental astral energy would not factor into their score at the end, so its basically a waste of their time to bother going after another lords territory, thats why they leave the previous lands you liberated alone, because there is no benefit to them to try to take it over. Since they are only scored based on what element they are assigned to harvest and the other elements would earn them 0 points.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by FakeKeima:

Originally posted by Marosh:

Why should they do that. That is not how you win the crown contest. Shionnes goal is at this point completly different.

Now you could argue, that sabotage a other lord would mean an advantage. While the logic is true, their culture prevents that.
Ruling over a different realm has no benefit. As of chapter four, you should know, that the realms are manipulated to collect a specific element more effectively. A Water Lord has no use for a fire realm i.e..
You'll get later more information about Renans.

The thing is, the story isn't executed well. A lot of intereseting information is delievered like a side note and not really woven into the overall story. Like they had the overall idea and key milestones, worked on the milestones and slapped it together, while doing only the minimal stuff in connecting the milestones.

Okay after scrolling through through the glossary after these comments I get where my memory was wrong. Contest was every seven years with the point of the contest being energy farming. Is Shionne's goal all that different from winning the contest? She wants to gather the master cores to make the ultimate one. She is just stealing it from the five true chosen contestants. Hopefully the fifth/sixth chapter shows her having fight whoever gives out the true master core device.

Powercow, what you say makes sense but didn't Dohalim(FGO Arjuna) show that they had to fight to be the chosen five contestants and that is where he killed his opposition causing some girl to wail giving him scream trauma? Also is his glossary info kind of short for anybody else?

Her wanting the cores has nothing to do with the crown contest at all. Its because The renas alma made from the 5 cores supposedly has the ability to remove her thorns, her entire goal is to get it to get rid of her thorns so she can live like a normal person. You find out its actually a bit different when your about to go to Lenegis but still even then it had nothing to do with her wanting to rule or anything of the sort.

[Powercow]

Originally posted by FakeKeima:

Powercow, what you say makes sense but didn't Dohalim(FGO Arjuna) show that they had to fight to be the chosen five contestants and that is where he killed his opposition causing some girl to wail giving him scream trauma?

The qualifying round for the contest is part of the contest. Without major spoilers I can't go into much more detail, but Renans aren't nearly as autonomous as they might first appear.

[FakeKeima]

Originally posted by Scyris:

Originally posted by FakeKeima:

Okay after scrolling through through the glossary after these comments I get where my memory was wrong. Contest was every seven years with the point of the contest being energy farming. Is Shionne's goal all that different from winning the contest? She wants to gather the master cores to make the ultimate one. She is just stealing it from the five true chosen contestants. Hopefully the fifth/sixth chapter shows her having fight whoever gives out the true master core device.

Powercow, what you say makes sense but didn't Dohalim(FGO Arjuna) show that they had to fight to be the chosen five contestants and that is where he killed his opposition causing some girl to wail giving him scream trauma? Also is his glossary info kind of short for anybody else?

Her wanting the cores has nothing to do with the crown contest at all. Its because The renas alma made from the 5 cores supposedly has the ability to remove her thorns, her entire goal is to get it to get rid of her thorns so she can live like a normal person. You find out its actually a bit different when your about to go to Lenegis but still even then it had nothing to do with her wanting to rule or anything of the sort.

Her plan's end result just seems ill thought out as of chapter four what with her humiliating the potential rulers and inciting a rebellion. However you've said there is more to it so I'm just gonna shut up and finish the game.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by FakeKeima:

Originally posted by Scyris:

Her wanting the cores has nothing to do with the crown contest at all. Its because The renas alma made from the 5 cores supposedly has the ability to remove her thorns, her entire goal is to get it to get rid of her thorns so she can live like a normal person. You find out its actually a bit different when your about to go to Lenegis but still even then it had nothing to do with her wanting to rule or anything of the sort.

Her plan's end result just seems ill thought out as of chapter four what with her humiliating the potential rulers and inciting a rebellion. However you've said there is more to it so I'm just gonna shut up and finish the game.

As of ch4 you don't know what her real goal actually is yet. Its not till after the 5th lord when you find out what it really is.

[Popemaster]

I would certainly recommend you continue with the story as everything is explained very well over the next few hours of gametime.

It's also worth noting that as of the fight with the 5th lord you are just reaching the halfway point of the game so there is a lot more to come, which is probably why it seems strange.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Popemaster:

It's also worth noting that as of the fight with the 5th lord you are just reaching the halfway point of the game so there is a lot more to come, which is probably why it seems strange.

Halfway is not even remotely true.
More like 80-85%. Its really just one big new territory and a few boss fights after that.
Not counting the side stuff you can do, the main story only is a few hours more after the 5th lord.

"Half" is definitely a exaggeration.

[Yukikaze]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by Popemaster:

It's also worth noting that as of the fight with the 5th lord you are just reaching the halfway point of the game so there is a lot more to come, which is probably why it seems strange.

Halfway is not even remotely true.
More like 80-85%. Its really just one big new territory and a few boss fights after that.
Not counting the side stuff you can do, the main story only is a few hours more after the 5th lord.

"Half" is definitely a exaggeration.

While half is definitely an exaggeration, so is 85% lol.

There's literally like four dungeons and two towns before said new territory. Comparing to ganoth haros for example... Seashore is shorter than maintence passage. There's more to lenegis than the first town and Pelegion combined. Shinefall woods and Aurum falls are way shorter than the mountain range tunnel and the wedge. Marshlands takes less time than the volcano. Even without the lore dumps taking up time, its practically longer than a major region before you even set foot in the final territory.

It's gotta be closer to 70~75% imo.

[Popemaster]

Originally posted by Yukikaze:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Halfway is not even remotely true.
More like 80-85%. Its really just one big new territory and a few boss fights after that.
Not counting the side stuff you can do, the main story only is a few hours more after the 5th lord.

"Half" is definitely a exaggeration.

While half is definitely an exaggeration, so is 85% lol.

There's literally like four dungeons and two towns before said new territory. Comparing to ganoth haros for example... Seashore is shorter than maintence passage. There's more to lenegis than the first town and Pelegion combined. Shinefall woods and Aurum falls are way shorter than the mountain range tunnel and the wedge. Marshlands takes less time than the volcano. Even without the lore dumps taking up time, its practically longer than a major region before you even set foot in the final territory.

It's gotta be closer to 70~75% imo.

Yeah that's fair, I was factoring in post-game content as well (including the lvl 60+ subquests that pop up early) so I may have underestimated haha.